KY LEO Traffic stop w/ CCDW Lic.

[wyocarp]

More than half of all new officers have never handled a firearm before the academy.

Knowing the amount of time it takes to proficient with a gun and to properly handle a gun this is very scary.

I personally know a young man that had never shot a firearm until he went to become an officer in Colorado. I remember when he had to go to the store to buy a pistol to carry. He had no idea what to buy. And I would imagine he had no idea how to use it.

I took realatives to an indoor range in Loveland this last weekend and repeatedly told them not to put their finger in trigger area until the gun was pointed at the target. And we have people like this with a badge.

And then, they want to handle my loaded weapon at a traffic stop? I'm sorry, but this is dangerous and wrong!

 

[mossy141701]

I agree with Ky smith, that's pretty much like they descrbied it in my CCW class. I have been stopped a couple of time by KSP very early while going to work and have never been asked to turn mine over to them.

 

[copper4262]

I dont know what the laws are in every state - where I work a CCW holder is required to produce the permit when asked by an LEO - Before i became an LEO i produced my permit on a couple of traffic stops when I was not asked - if I were stopped now i probably wouldn't produce the permit unless asked - My dilema is that I usually have either a gun or a few extra mags shoved in my glove box (and pretty much everywhere else in the car I can fit it) so i make sure to keep my permit and LEO ID on me in case i am stopped - Most cops i know are not paranoid - but the awareness levels will rise considerably if there is even a hint of a gun - if you have ammo or holsters laying around etc - make sure you are ready to show your weapon and who knows - maybe hand it over for a few minutes -

I have stopped many CCW holders - i have never taken a weapon off of a person on a stop and probably never will as long as it is carried legally and safely - I do not generally ask for weapons unless i have reason to believe there is one - that doesn't mean my guard is dropped or that I - if i see a CCW permit in a wallet etc - i will ask about the weapon and where it is at - thats for my safety!! i will also want to make sure to have a driver keep his hands away from the weapon while we are in contact - its all about safety- im a gun nut and i love to meet people who like to discuss guns - but that doesn't mean i am about to let me guard down while on a traffic stop -

My advice is to know your local laws - if you are not required to produce permit or gun unless asked - well - dont produce either unless asked - and dont keep boxes of shells laying on your dash or on your seat unless you want to be quizzed about - for whats its worth i have taken alot of illegal/stolen guns away from criminals during traffic stops - many times I found them simply by noticing a box of ammo or a clip laying on the seat - a true gun person will not make things so obvious - also it cuts down on the chance of your carry piece being stolen out of your vehicle while you run into the Post Office or some other non-carry establishment.

 

[wyocarp]

It seems to me that most police officers should realize that the person that they pull over that has a gun probably falls pretty hard into one of two categories.

Category 1, the person is an okay person who just likes guns or carries just for personal protection.

Category 2, the person who is a criminal and shouldn't have a gun. I would have to imagine that those who have gone through a background check, been fingerprinted, and had the local sheriff agree to the person having the permit as is done here in Wyoming, would almost always be in Category 1 and any officer in the vacinity of this person should almost feel more at ease.

 

[TRN]

Nothing to complain about there.