David Wile
Member
Hey folks,
This is an update for new info provided to this date. This Hornady L&L AP serial number list was started on another thread from back at the beginning of 2010, and folks continue to provide new data as new machines continue to be sold.
--------Hornady LNL AP Serial Numbers & Dates Purchased---------
---Serial #-----When Bought------Member Reporting
------146------?---------?--------whistlerswe - Owner is located in Sweden and thinks he is third owner of press.
----1,525-----Jun?-----1997------Dave Wile
----2,330------?----------?-------Armarsh - Purchased used and upgraded to EZ-Ject.
----4,279-----Aug------2001------Sommerled
----4,945-----Jan?-----2003?-----Nathan - Wire eject. . . .Still my only reloading press. original primer and powder feed.
----7,078-----Mar------2004------Robctwo - Has put 117,800 rounds through it to March 2010 then had it rebuilt for cost of shipping one way.
----8,465-----Apr------2004------kbeck76 -Converted to EZ-Ject around Jan 2011.
----8,866-----May-----2005------Canuck IL
---10,073-----Unk------2006------Waldog - Later converted to EZ-Ject.
---11,020-----Apr------2007----- Otto - $319 from Midsouth
---11,027-----Jan------2008------Wilburt
---11,374-----Nov?----2007-------Vegasbillsliv - Midway. Still has the wire eject. Thousands of rounds and no major malfunctions.
---11,778-----Aug------2007------SPW1
---11,885--------------2007?-----Walkalong (Anthony)
---12,056-----Oct-----2008-------Sommerled
---12,9xx------Jan-----2008-------Blue68f100 - Added brass feeder July 2008 & EZ-Eject upgrade soon as available.
---13,xxx--------------2008?------KY Jelly
---13,050-----Feb-----2008-------Randy
---13,100-----Feb-----2008------ Thorn - Upgraded to EZ-Ject subplate.
---13,491-----June----2008-------101 Voo Doo (Jim)
---13,978-----July-----2008-------Dynamite Rabbit (Lee)
---14,281-----Aug-----2008-------RNG (Richard) - Upgraded to EZ-Ject in October 2009 and considers it money well spent.
---16,153-----Dec-----2008-------Ole Farmer Buck (Van)
---16,5xx-----Dec-----2008-------Mongoose
---14,689-----Aug-----2008-------Smith627 - Upgraded to EZ-Ject. Problems with 9mm & seating primers low enough.
---17,410-----Feb-----2009-------Jeff Brown
---18,419-----Apr-----2009-------Vtail
---18,608-----Apr-----2009-------Wild Willy (Bill)
---18,753-----Apr-----2009-------Captaingyro - MidSouth.
---18,930-----May-----2009-------Broken Wheel
---20,161-----Sep-----2009--------Dreaded
---20,475-----Nov-----2009--------cfullgraf
---20,777-----Oct-----2009--------Floydster (Floyd)
---20,900-----Dec-----2009--------KB2
---21,257-----???-----2008?--------schmellba99 - Cabela's in Glendale, AZ (Not sure about date of purchase.)
---21,305-----Unk-----2009--------TxSoldier
---21,761-----Nov-----2009--------Sommerled
---21,949-----Oct-----2009------- Rkohut
---22,151-----Dec-----2009--------NRA-Highmaster
---22,295-----Nov-----2009--------Dodge DeBoulet
---22,4xx-----Nov-----2009--------Crashbox
---22,492-----Nov-----2009--------Broker
---22,523-----Oct-----2009--------Glock20
---22,907-----Dec-----2009--------Ledhore - 30,000 rounds loaded by end of Feb 2012.
---23,300-----Dec-----2009--------The Hat
---23,4xx-----Dec-----2009--------Gryffydd - Graff's. Powder measure comes with baffle now.
---23,766-----Dec-----2009--------Fella5 (Scott) - Midway.
---23,92x-----Dec-----2009--------1911pewpew - Midway.
---23,959--------------------------Mstreddy - Bought used summer of 2012 from a THR member.
---24,xxx-----Jan------2010--------Macnewbie
---24,427-----Jan-----2010--------Ole Farmer Buck (Van)
---25,067-----Mar-----2010--------Mmorris (Mike)
---25,100-----Mar-----2010--------Caliber
---25,820-----Apr-----2010--------Eppie
---26,230-----May----2010--------Galvatron - More than 10K rounds as of Feb 2012, four calibers, zero problems.
---27,101-----Oct-----2010--------Glock XIX
---27,769-----Sep-----2010--------Vec - Midway. Added micrometer powder measures.
---28,031-----Aug-----2010--------steve5c - Midway.
---28,X46-----Nov-----2010--------Syntax Error.
---29,xxx-----May-----2011--------Cdstang
---30,080-----Dec-----2011--------Weston Liu -
---30,295-----Apr-----2011--------Sageen - This press was replaced by Hornady with press #36,821 in Dec 2011.
---31,060-----Mar-----2011--------357 Shooter - ManVenture Outpost.
---31,327-----Nov-----2011--------flhtci2006 - Midway.
---33,037-----Jan-----2012--------Johnnymg - Graf's. Also bought 36,039 from Cabela's in Dec 2011.
---33,594-----Oct-----2011--------Striker Fired - Midway.
---35,963-----Nov-----2011--------rumblebee1967
---35,974-----Nov-----2011--------twohightech - Cabela's.
---36,143-----Nov-----2011--------Hounddawg
---36,156-----Nov-----2011--------NWDave
---36,181-----Nov-----2011--------777TRUTH - Graf's.
---36,297-----Dec-----2011--------brominated -Graf's. Drive hub sheared after 100+ loaded rounds. Hornady sent replacement part & is working fine.
---36,039-----Dec-----2011--------Johnnymg - Cabela's. Also bought 33037 from Graf's in Jan 2012.
---36,299-----Dec-----2011--------J McLeod - Graf's.
---36,305-----Aug-----2012--------Glockdk - Lives in Denmark.
---36,332-----Dec-----2011--------John16443 - Cabela's. This press replaced a broken press.
---36,821-----Dec-----2011--------Sageen - Hornady replaced press #30,295 with this press.
---36,869-----Dec-----2011--------Mike27 - Cabela's
---37,534-----Feb-----2012--------DEP589 - Cabelas. No problems encountered thus far.
---38,085-----Mar-----2012--------Tightgroup Tiger - I wouldn't tade mine for any brand.
---39,706-----Jun-----2012---------Huskerguy - Midway
---39,994-----Jun-----2012---------Sean Eady - Midway
---40,660-----Jul-----2012----------Dickttx - Natchez. "No problems, other than myself, so far."
---41,819-----Nov-----2012--------smittydidit
---50,236-----Apr-----2013--------David Bachelder - ordered 2/25/13 from MidSouth & delivered 4/16/13. After the press broke me in it ran fine.
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Additional comments made by LNL owners are noted as follows:
---Dave Wile - The wire eject system was apparently replaced by the EZ-Ject system in the fall of 2008 starting on or about with SN 16,000. I still continue to use the original wire eject system that came with my press, and it works just fine for me. I suspect all of the changes Hornady has made over the years have been to reduce as much as possible the opportunity for operator error, but when you have a machine with all the cogs, levers, and whatever all operating together, there is no way to make it completely “idiot” proof. This has been an excellent machine for me since the summer of 1997.
---Canuck, IL - Reports the change in the primer system came at serial number 7,000.
---Walkalong - Has a Pro-Jector with serial # 18,396. He also says the $29 he spent for his EZ-Ject upgrade was worth the expense.
---Sommerled reports his oldest (2001) LNL press has the old primer system with the brass tubes where you remove the whole steel containment sleeve. It also has the primer plunger with thumb nut that is a poor design, hard to tighten and comes loose a lot. Also the return spring for the powder measure pulls down at an angle with this older press and it sometimes binds up if not dry lubed. The wire ejects work most of the time when occasionally rubbed with a little die sizing wax on the contact area with a Q-tip.
---Dave Wile - I also have the original primer system as described by Sommerled. While I have smoothed the edges of the primer plungers with a fine file, I do not have any problems with my primer system. I do keep the shuttle slide clean and dry lubed. I also found wood dowels to fit inside the brass primer tubes. The dowels put a bit of weight on the primers and make it possible for the last few primers to feed properly. I also painted marks on the tops of the dowels to show how many primers remain in the tubes.
---Dodge DeBoulet indicates his press came with 3 powder drop tubes, two primer slides & seating punches; also indicated his powder screw tubes are not micrometer style which seems to be an add on purchase.
---Sageen's original press was replaced by Hornady because 45ACP and 44 Mag cases would hit sizer die on outside edge and not enter die without hand adjustment.
---Glockdk lives in Denmark and his drive hub broke after 500 rounds of 9mm. He notified Hornady and received a new hub days later - in Denmark.
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Recent Comments:
Swampman1 asked, "I'm also puzzled...as to the relevance of knowing these numbers. Or the interest for that matter?"
Response: When I first started collecting this information, I was simply curious as to how the press was doing in sales. I bought one of the first presses (Serial #1525) in the summer of 1997, and it has been interesting to see how their increase in production and sales has risen steadily over the years. Also, Hornady has made several design changes to different system parts over the years, and the information collected from these folks has been useful to document when said changes were made. Simple curiosity about the development of the machine from the end users' point of view is the main reason.
PA-Joe stated, "You may also have to go back and check on the productions of Pacific Presses. Hornady bought them out. "
Response: Yes, Hornady bought out Pacific and continued production of the Pacific 366 progressive shotshell reloader. However, to the best of my knowledge, the Hornady L&L AP reloader is a Hornady machine and not a product of Pacific development. The L&L AP did evolve from the Hornady Projector progressive, but that, too, was strictly a Hornady product - not Pacific.
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I will continue to add new data as long as folks continue reporting same on this thread. I keep this LNL serial number info on a M-Soft Excel spreadsheet. I can send a copy of the Excel file via E-Mail to anyone who would like it.
Best wishes,
Dave Wile
This is an update for new info provided to this date. This Hornady L&L AP serial number list was started on another thread from back at the beginning of 2010, and folks continue to provide new data as new machines continue to be sold.
--------Hornady LNL AP Serial Numbers & Dates Purchased---------
---Serial #-----When Bought------Member Reporting
------146------?---------?--------whistlerswe - Owner is located in Sweden and thinks he is third owner of press.
----1,525-----Jun?-----1997------Dave Wile
----2,330------?----------?-------Armarsh - Purchased used and upgraded to EZ-Ject.
----4,279-----Aug------2001------Sommerled
----4,945-----Jan?-----2003?-----Nathan - Wire eject. . . .Still my only reloading press. original primer and powder feed.
----7,078-----Mar------2004------Robctwo - Has put 117,800 rounds through it to March 2010 then had it rebuilt for cost of shipping one way.
----8,465-----Apr------2004------kbeck76 -Converted to EZ-Ject around Jan 2011.
----8,866-----May-----2005------Canuck IL
---10,073-----Unk------2006------Waldog - Later converted to EZ-Ject.
---11,020-----Apr------2007----- Otto - $319 from Midsouth
---11,027-----Jan------2008------Wilburt
---11,374-----Nov?----2007-------Vegasbillsliv - Midway. Still has the wire eject. Thousands of rounds and no major malfunctions.
---11,778-----Aug------2007------SPW1
---11,885--------------2007?-----Walkalong (Anthony)
---12,056-----Oct-----2008-------Sommerled
---12,9xx------Jan-----2008-------Blue68f100 - Added brass feeder July 2008 & EZ-Eject upgrade soon as available.
---13,xxx--------------2008?------KY Jelly
---13,050-----Feb-----2008-------Randy
---13,100-----Feb-----2008------ Thorn - Upgraded to EZ-Ject subplate.
---13,491-----June----2008-------101 Voo Doo (Jim)
---13,978-----July-----2008-------Dynamite Rabbit (Lee)
---14,281-----Aug-----2008-------RNG (Richard) - Upgraded to EZ-Ject in October 2009 and considers it money well spent.
---16,153-----Dec-----2008-------Ole Farmer Buck (Van)
---16,5xx-----Dec-----2008-------Mongoose
---14,689-----Aug-----2008-------Smith627 - Upgraded to EZ-Ject. Problems with 9mm & seating primers low enough.
---17,410-----Feb-----2009-------Jeff Brown
---18,419-----Apr-----2009-------Vtail
---18,608-----Apr-----2009-------Wild Willy (Bill)
---18,753-----Apr-----2009-------Captaingyro - MidSouth.
---18,930-----May-----2009-------Broken Wheel
---20,161-----Sep-----2009--------Dreaded
---20,475-----Nov-----2009--------cfullgraf
---20,777-----Oct-----2009--------Floydster (Floyd)
---20,900-----Dec-----2009--------KB2
---21,257-----???-----2008?--------schmellba99 - Cabela's in Glendale, AZ (Not sure about date of purchase.)
---21,305-----Unk-----2009--------TxSoldier
---21,761-----Nov-----2009--------Sommerled
---21,949-----Oct-----2009------- Rkohut
---22,151-----Dec-----2009--------NRA-Highmaster
---22,295-----Nov-----2009--------Dodge DeBoulet
---22,4xx-----Nov-----2009--------Crashbox
---22,492-----Nov-----2009--------Broker
---22,523-----Oct-----2009--------Glock20
---22,907-----Dec-----2009--------Ledhore - 30,000 rounds loaded by end of Feb 2012.
---23,300-----Dec-----2009--------The Hat
---23,4xx-----Dec-----2009--------Gryffydd - Graff's. Powder measure comes with baffle now.
---23,766-----Dec-----2009--------Fella5 (Scott) - Midway.
---23,92x-----Dec-----2009--------1911pewpew - Midway.
---23,959--------------------------Mstreddy - Bought used summer of 2012 from a THR member.
---24,xxx-----Jan------2010--------Macnewbie
---24,427-----Jan-----2010--------Ole Farmer Buck (Van)
---25,067-----Mar-----2010--------Mmorris (Mike)
---25,100-----Mar-----2010--------Caliber
---25,820-----Apr-----2010--------Eppie
---26,230-----May----2010--------Galvatron - More than 10K rounds as of Feb 2012, four calibers, zero problems.
---27,101-----Oct-----2010--------Glock XIX
---27,769-----Sep-----2010--------Vec - Midway. Added micrometer powder measures.
---28,031-----Aug-----2010--------steve5c - Midway.
---28,X46-----Nov-----2010--------Syntax Error.
---29,xxx-----May-----2011--------Cdstang
---30,080-----Dec-----2011--------Weston Liu -
---30,295-----Apr-----2011--------Sageen - This press was replaced by Hornady with press #36,821 in Dec 2011.
---31,060-----Mar-----2011--------357 Shooter - ManVenture Outpost.
---31,327-----Nov-----2011--------flhtci2006 - Midway.
---33,037-----Jan-----2012--------Johnnymg - Graf's. Also bought 36,039 from Cabela's in Dec 2011.
---33,594-----Oct-----2011--------Striker Fired - Midway.
---35,963-----Nov-----2011--------rumblebee1967
---35,974-----Nov-----2011--------twohightech - Cabela's.
---36,143-----Nov-----2011--------Hounddawg
---36,156-----Nov-----2011--------NWDave
---36,181-----Nov-----2011--------777TRUTH - Graf's.
---36,297-----Dec-----2011--------brominated -Graf's. Drive hub sheared after 100+ loaded rounds. Hornady sent replacement part & is working fine.
---36,039-----Dec-----2011--------Johnnymg - Cabela's. Also bought 33037 from Graf's in Jan 2012.
---36,299-----Dec-----2011--------J McLeod - Graf's.
---36,305-----Aug-----2012--------Glockdk - Lives in Denmark.
---36,332-----Dec-----2011--------John16443 - Cabela's. This press replaced a broken press.
---36,821-----Dec-----2011--------Sageen - Hornady replaced press #30,295 with this press.
---36,869-----Dec-----2011--------Mike27 - Cabela's
---37,534-----Feb-----2012--------DEP589 - Cabelas. No problems encountered thus far.
---38,085-----Mar-----2012--------Tightgroup Tiger - I wouldn't tade mine for any brand.
---39,706-----Jun-----2012---------Huskerguy - Midway
---39,994-----Jun-----2012---------Sean Eady - Midway
---40,660-----Jul-----2012----------Dickttx - Natchez. "No problems, other than myself, so far."
---41,819-----Nov-----2012--------smittydidit
---50,236-----Apr-----2013--------David Bachelder - ordered 2/25/13 from MidSouth & delivered 4/16/13. After the press broke me in it ran fine.
-------------------------------
Additional comments made by LNL owners are noted as follows:
---Dave Wile - The wire eject system was apparently replaced by the EZ-Ject system in the fall of 2008 starting on or about with SN 16,000. I still continue to use the original wire eject system that came with my press, and it works just fine for me. I suspect all of the changes Hornady has made over the years have been to reduce as much as possible the opportunity for operator error, but when you have a machine with all the cogs, levers, and whatever all operating together, there is no way to make it completely “idiot” proof. This has been an excellent machine for me since the summer of 1997.
---Canuck, IL - Reports the change in the primer system came at serial number 7,000.
---Walkalong - Has a Pro-Jector with serial # 18,396. He also says the $29 he spent for his EZ-Ject upgrade was worth the expense.
---Sommerled reports his oldest (2001) LNL press has the old primer system with the brass tubes where you remove the whole steel containment sleeve. It also has the primer plunger with thumb nut that is a poor design, hard to tighten and comes loose a lot. Also the return spring for the powder measure pulls down at an angle with this older press and it sometimes binds up if not dry lubed. The wire ejects work most of the time when occasionally rubbed with a little die sizing wax on the contact area with a Q-tip.
---Dave Wile - I also have the original primer system as described by Sommerled. While I have smoothed the edges of the primer plungers with a fine file, I do not have any problems with my primer system. I do keep the shuttle slide clean and dry lubed. I also found wood dowels to fit inside the brass primer tubes. The dowels put a bit of weight on the primers and make it possible for the last few primers to feed properly. I also painted marks on the tops of the dowels to show how many primers remain in the tubes.
---Dodge DeBoulet indicates his press came with 3 powder drop tubes, two primer slides & seating punches; also indicated his powder screw tubes are not micrometer style which seems to be an add on purchase.
---Sageen's original press was replaced by Hornady because 45ACP and 44 Mag cases would hit sizer die on outside edge and not enter die without hand adjustment.
---Glockdk lives in Denmark and his drive hub broke after 500 rounds of 9mm. He notified Hornady and received a new hub days later - in Denmark.
-------------------------------
Recent Comments:
Swampman1 asked, "I'm also puzzled...as to the relevance of knowing these numbers. Or the interest for that matter?"
Response: When I first started collecting this information, I was simply curious as to how the press was doing in sales. I bought one of the first presses (Serial #1525) in the summer of 1997, and it has been interesting to see how their increase in production and sales has risen steadily over the years. Also, Hornady has made several design changes to different system parts over the years, and the information collected from these folks has been useful to document when said changes were made. Simple curiosity about the development of the machine from the end users' point of view is the main reason.
PA-Joe stated, "You may also have to go back and check on the productions of Pacific Presses. Hornady bought them out. "
Response: Yes, Hornady bought out Pacific and continued production of the Pacific 366 progressive shotshell reloader. However, to the best of my knowledge, the Hornady L&L AP reloader is a Hornady machine and not a product of Pacific development. The L&L AP did evolve from the Hornady Projector progressive, but that, too, was strictly a Hornady product - not Pacific.
--------------------------------------
I will continue to add new data as long as folks continue reporting same on this thread. I keep this LNL serial number info on a M-Soft Excel spreadsheet. I can send a copy of the Excel file via E-Mail to anyone who would like it.
Best wishes,
Dave Wile