Lawsuit blames video game for cop killings
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Lawsuits like this aren't really about fault at all. They're about money.
Lawyers and families see an opportunity to put their hands into the pockets of those who have it. BUT they need a reason to make their theft legit so they come up with what ever sounds plausible.
Money people - that's what it's all about...
Lawyers and families see an opportunity to put their hands into the pockets of those who have it. BUT they need a reason to make their theft legit so they come up with what ever sounds plausible.
Money people - that's what it's all about...
Strings
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Thanks Law Dog... I was afraid I was the only one who caught the fact the kid grabbed one officer's weapon, and killed three with it...
There was an officer here (Manitowoc, WI) who was shot during a late night traffic stop. During the resulting (justified) outrage, I made the mistake of asking if he had been wearing his vest (turns out he wasn't). Thought for a bit that I was gonna get lynched...
As for video games: just checked with the roomie if he has any of the GT:A games. Since he said yes, I'm gonna haveta lock up his 45 so he doesn't go on a rampage, and shoot Spoon and I...
There was an officer here (Manitowoc, WI) who was shot during a late night traffic stop. During the resulting (justified) outrage, I made the mistake of asking if he had been wearing his vest (turns out he wasn't). Thought for a bit that I was gonna get lynched...
As for video games: just checked with the roomie if he has any of the GT:A games. Since he said yes, I'm gonna haveta lock up his 45 so he doesn't go on a rampage, and shoot Spoon and I...
cidirkona
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I rented that game once and it stabbed me in the leg, stole my car, picked up a prostitute in it and ran over people on the sidewalk...
Have you guys ever played any racing games for a extended number of hours, then got in a car? Drive politely all you will, but instinct still kicks in and says "I can fit between those two cars." Wether or not I actually DO it is up to me though.
Rockstar Games has ALWAYS been good about saying that their games are intended for ADULTS ONLY.
-Colin
Have you guys ever played any racing games for a extended number of hours, then got in a car? Drive politely all you will, but instinct still kicks in and says "I can fit between those two cars." Wether or not I actually DO it is up to me though.
Rockstar Games has ALWAYS been good about saying that their games are intended for ADULTS ONLY.
-Colin
Millions of copies of those games were sold. Millions of people did not try and kill cops.
The murder was the problem, not the game.
The plantifs and their lawyers should be forced to publicly appologize and should pay all legal costs of the game company and retailers. The lawyer should be disbarred.
This is nothing but a frivolous lawsuit to try and get money from the deep pockets of those big evil corporations.
If the Bar Association was serving it's purpose, these lawyers would face losing their license for such actions, however the Bar Association has become part fo the problem.
Serious legal reform is needed in this country, and it goes beyond tort reform.
The murder was the problem, not the game.
The plantifs and their lawyers should be forced to publicly appologize and should pay all legal costs of the game company and retailers. The lawyer should be disbarred.
This is nothing but a frivolous lawsuit to try and get money from the deep pockets of those big evil corporations.
If the Bar Association was serving it's purpose, these lawyers would face losing their license for such actions, however the Bar Association has become part fo the problem.
Serious legal reform is needed in this country, and it goes beyond tort reform.
jefnvk
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You don't expect a kid that plays NASCAR Thunder 2005 to run in the Daytona 500, why would you expect that a kid that plays a violent game becomes a killer?
Hkmp5sd
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Another feature of the GTA games is the player can pick up a hooker and have sex in order to restore his health. Has there also been an increase in the number of high school males soliciting prostitutes?
hmmm, lets see I play the game Americas Army, Does that mean I'm going to run off & join the Army?
Nope, but it did cause me to respect soldiers more than i did (not that i ever didnt respect them).
I've played the Hitman game seres, does that mean i'm going to go become a Hitman?
Nope, but i did find the games entertaining.
I Play Gran Turismo & Need for Speed Games, does that mean I'm going to go out street racing & playing chicken with cop cars at over 100MPH?
Nope.
WHY? Simple, I have an abillity few seem to have these days, Common Sence!
Nope, but it did cause me to respect soldiers more than i did (not that i ever didnt respect them).
I've played the Hitman game seres, does that mean i'm going to go become a Hitman?
Nope, but i did find the games entertaining.
I Play Gran Turismo & Need for Speed Games, does that mean I'm going to go out street racing & playing chicken with cop cars at over 100MPH?
Nope.
WHY? Simple, I have an abillity few seem to have these days, Common Sence!
This suit is doubtless a ploy by the defense to redirect blame.
Tell me, who is stepping in for the bereaved families of those officers?
It's unfortunate that our boys (and girls) in blue have to learn from something like this. The hardest lessons are usually written in blood.
As far as the video game as a causative factor, mental instability as profound as that kid displayed should have been noted & treated WAY before his oblivious mommy and daddy bought him an X-Box.
Entertainment is just that: entertainment. Personal freedom requires personal responsibility.
(apologies for anti-lawyer commentary in here earlier. Will start my own thread on that one one day)
Tell me, who is stepping in for the bereaved families of those officers?
It's unfortunate that our boys (and girls) in blue have to learn from something like this. The hardest lessons are usually written in blood.
As far as the video game as a causative factor, mental instability as profound as that kid displayed should have been noted & treated WAY before his oblivious mommy and daddy bought him an X-Box.
Entertainment is just that: entertainment. Personal freedom requires personal responsibility.
(apologies for anti-lawyer commentary in here earlier. Will start my own thread on that one one day)
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benEzra
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I wouldn't sue any stores or video game manufacturers. I'd ponder where we went wrong as parents, if there was anything more we could have done; I'd mourn what my son had done and what he had become; I'd grieve for the families of the victims; and I'd try, somehow, to carry on. But I certainly hope I wouldn't use it as an opportunity to extort a million dollars from Wal-Mart.
As far as telling reality from fantasy, every play "cops and robbers" as a kid with REAL people on the other end of that cap gun? If you were the robber, did you try ever try to "shoot" the "cop"?
The technology has changed, but the genre is the same. Personally, I'm not comfortable with playing GFA myself, for the same reasons I never played the bad guys in "Command and Conquer," because when playing an alternate-reality game I don't like to pretend to be someone I find morally reprehensible (and it's hard to succeed at GFA by being law-abiding...). I don't have a problem with other people doing so, I just personally find it unappealing.
Yes, I've read Dave? Grossman's book On Killing or whatever the title was, and I see the point he is trying to make but I'm very skeptical that the effect is real. Even if it is, that doesn't make the game makers culpable, unless you want to apply the same standard to crime-glorifying novel writers, movie producers, and TV actors.
And on a personal note, playing Halo against my best friends has never even once tempted me to sneak up behind them and shoot/slash/melee them...has taught me a bit about situational awareness, though, and if Earth is ever invaded by short aliens with squeaky voices, I'll be ready...come to think of it, maybe Halo is good training for those "mutant zombie" SHTF situations...
Here's a thought...
The families of the deceased LEO's should sue the family of the scumbag that killed them for Negligent Parenting, reckless endagerment for raising an animal instead of a human, lost wages, loss of consortium etc etc...
I just do not understand why more countersuits in cases like this are not filed?
Any of you lawyer types care to comment on that?
The families of the deceased LEO's should sue the family of the scumbag that killed them for Negligent Parenting, reckless endagerment for raising an animal instead of a human, lost wages, loss of consortium etc etc...
I just do not understand why more countersuits in cases like this are not filed?
Any of you lawyer types care to comment on that?
Cool Hand Luke 22:36
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The Marine Corps trains thousands of young men his age to become effecient killers.
The Corps even uses real firearms.
That isn't a defense to a murder charge either.
These suits have been around for a while, and IIRC, they haven't been very successful. Maybe this family thinks they will be the one. Personally, I don't have a problems with these games. I have played them, though I am not going to conclude that based upon my experiences, this holds true for everyone else. I have not read about any studies showing a causational relationship between violent acts and violent games, so until someone can prove a link, I think these lawsuits are garbage.
That being said, I wouldn't let my young children play GTA. This game seems more appropriate for adults and older teens. I work as a family therapist and have clients on my case load that play these games at age 5-10. Pretty good parenting. I am not suggesting that these games have caused thier kids to be in therapy, but they sure don't help.
That being said, I wouldn't let my young children play GTA. This game seems more appropriate for adults and older teens. I work as a family therapist and have clients on my case load that play these games at age 5-10. Pretty good parenting. I am not suggesting that these games have caused thier kids to be in therapy, but they sure don't help.
G36-UK
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This is almost as bad as the last time this happened over here.
In case you didn't hear, a kid who had a bit of a mental problem (an understatement if there ever was one), who killed his friend with a claw hammer. They used to play the Rockstar game Manhunt, so the game gets a backlash of irrational bile from our resident nutjobs, Mediawatch. This led to the shops voluntarily removing the game. This was a bit of a problem, because IIRC, Rockstar North is based here in Scotland.
It wasn't until later that it was found out that it was the victim who in fact played the game. Of course did Mediawatch apologise, like any honest organization? My a--e they did.
I understand that this goes against everything that we on THR strive towards, but do you think I should email Thompson via his website and ask him if he really believes all that s--te he speaks?
In case you didn't hear, a kid who had a bit of a mental problem (an understatement if there ever was one), who killed his friend with a claw hammer. They used to play the Rockstar game Manhunt, so the game gets a backlash of irrational bile from our resident nutjobs, Mediawatch. This led to the shops voluntarily removing the game. This was a bit of a problem, because IIRC, Rockstar North is based here in Scotland.
It wasn't until later that it was found out that it was the victim who in fact played the game. Of course did Mediawatch apologise, like any honest organization? My a--e they did.
I understand that this goes against everything that we on THR strive towards, but do you think I should email Thompson via his website and ask him if he really believes all that s--te he speaks?
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