LCT stuck case=sucks!

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well I stuck another case and now cant get it out. I decided to use rubber gloves to cut down on my hands getting lead and sizing wax on them when sizing and it seems the gloves put way more wax on the case than when using my fingers.

I have an RCBS stuck case tool but the thing is I cant lock the die upside down in the lee classic turret because the lock ring for my RCBS die is too big and hits the base for the turret plate and wont lock it and I think I bent another decapping rod!

I then went to the garage to put the die in the vise and the damn vise is broken and wont move. :banghead:

I'm getting online right now and seeing if lee makes a carbide rifle die. :)

rule #1 don't use the LCT to extract a case.
rule#2 don't use a rubber glove to spread case lube
rule #3 always have lag bolts on hand.
 
Have you tried a stuck case remover, the one where you drill the primer pocket out and tap it for a screw?
 
that's what I have but when you flip the die over and screw in the bottom of the press the lock ring cant be tightened because its so large it hits the base of the turret press and wont lock. I have a lee c press that if I had lag bolts I could bolt to the work bench in the garage and pop it out.

I can make one swipe with my finger and imperial wax and do probably 10-12 cases before I wax my finger again. rubber gloves stuck the 3rd one.
 
I stuck one 30-30 once, in the LEE die. I just removed the collet and decapping pin and used a large drift pin to knock the case out. Took a couple of minutes then back in business.
 
ohihunter2014 said:
that's what I have but when you flip the die over and screw in the bottom of the press the lock ring cant be tightened because its so large it hits the base of the turret press and wont lock. I have a lee c press that if I had lag bolts I could bolt to the work bench in the garage and pop it out.

I can make one swipe with my finger and imperial wax and do probably 10-12 cases before I wax my finger again. rubber gloves stuck the 3rd one.
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That's exactly how I resize. Even with carbide dies, 9mm & 500 S&W are much easier to size. And that Imperial lube is great & lasts forever.
 
I have an RCBS stuck case tool but the thing is I cant lock the die upside down in the lee classic turret
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If you have the RCBS stuck case remover?

It doesn't work in the press.

Read the instructions again.

It doesn't say anything about a press if I'm not mistaken.

You can use it holding the die in your hand.

rc
 
I had a rifle loading episode with two stuck cases in one night. I learned that when you pull the press handle, if the sizing process doesn't have the normal feel DO NOT FORCE IT.. Back off. Now that I pay attention to the little voice, I have not had another stuck case.

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For the OP---
If you want to hold the die in the press upside down you remove the lock ring from the die, screw the die in from the bottom and then screw the lock ring down on the TOP of the inverted die to lock. I use a wood working vise with hardwood jaws to hold my dies, after I remove the lock ring when I need to remove stuck cases. You can hold the die in your hand as RC said but I am not that strong.;) This is yet another reason to have a good rugged single stage press on hand.
 
I hate to say this to you but using gloves doesn't do anything for you. Lead only enters the body by ingestion or breathing the fumes.
 
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I've used a 1/4" self tapping screw and a socket before. Socket needs to be big enough for the case to be able to get pulled up into the socket and small enough to seat on the base of the die. You can drill and tap for 1/4 - 20 threads also if you can't find a self drilling/tapping screw. (basically what the rcbs tool is)

Only stuck case I ever had was when I switched to imperial from the RCBS goo.
 
I hate to say this to you but using gloves doesn't do anything for you. Lead only enters the body by ingestion or breathing the fumes.
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I agree, just wash your hands good after re-loading.

You don't need a stuck case remover it is very easy. If you can't get it out but can remove the die send it to LEE they will do it.

Watch the short video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylp3fsYrEVw
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This is how i got my one stuck 30-30 out except I removed the de-capping pin and used a drift. I guess I have loaded a 1,000 rifle rounds since I started reloading in January. Consisting of 30-06/243/30-30/223. I use the LEE lube that came with my press. I still have half a tube or more left. It doesn't take much, a little dab will do!
 
I put the lock ring on top and die on bottom and the turret plate is
So slick I can't get it to lock. When I turn the tap which is now stuck in the case it turns either the turret plate or die because it's not locked down.
 
I am as concerned about lead in my nervous system as much as anyone, but I don't use gloves. Hand washing is the key.
 
If you have Lee dies you don't need a stuck case remover, anything other than this will just lead to more work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylp3fsYrEVw

The only other dies that beat the Lee's at ease of removing stuck cases are the Dillon rifle dies and you can get some of them in carbide as well but you are still going to need lube. FWIW with Dillon lube you just spray is on, let it dry and go. No need to apply it by had to each case.
 
SARuger said:
I stuck one 30-30 once, in the LEE die. I just removed the collet and decapping pin and used a large drift pin to knock the case out. Took a couple of minutes then back in business.
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that's the easiest way to get a stuck case out of a Lee die.
BTW, I've never heard of a case getting stuck because of too much lube.
 
splattergun said:
that's the easiest way to get a stuck case out of a Lee die.
BTW, I've never heard of a case getting stuck because of too much lube.
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the issue I found with the gloves wasn't too much lube it was putting way more on the cases before so the stuck case didn't have any on it.

im seriously thinking of switching to lee cause this is a PITA.
 
Stuck from too much lube? Too much on the cases before so none on this one? Doesn't make any sense to me.

But you have just discovered one more of the many reasons why I feel that every reloader needs to have a good single stage press on their bench, and all new reloaders should ONLY start with a single stage.
 
Have you guys tried one shot from hornady. I use that lube to resize all my rifle cases and never any problems.
 
too much lube isn't the issue.

When I put lube on my fingers I can lube about 10-12 cases until they get sticky.

I switched to using a rubber glove and it uses all the lube so about 4 cases I stuck one.

Not sure if the glove is absorbing the lube or just allowing more to get on the cases.
 
Did you watch the LEE video I posted? Did you get the case out. All this gloves, lube and lead stuff has nothing to do with the problem at this time of getting out a stuck case.
 
Rule3 said:
Did you watch the LEE video I posted? Did you get the case out. All this gloves, lube and lead stuff has nothing to do with the problem at this time of getting out a stuck case.
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I did but I don't have lee dies I have RCBS.
 
My older Lyman & RCBS dies have a very small spindle - you can't take the spindle out if the expander button and decapping pin are in place.

Can you disable the indexing on your classic turret so you can apply a little torque to the stuck case remover?

It doesn't take much torque to thread brass and it doesn't take much torque to back out the stuck case once you have the stuck case tool installed. You need to either figure out a way to lock your turret down, or fix your vise. If you use the vise, use a couple blocks of wood to cushion the jaws so you don't bugger the threads on your die.

I don't think carbide dies will prevent what happened - but Dillon makes them as well. Last I looked they were $165 for a set of carbide .223 dies. They are really meant for commercial loaders that need to load 10's of thousands of rounds without any die wear. They still have to be lubricated for bottleneck cases.
 
John3921 said:
My older Lyman & RCBS dies have a very small spindle - you can't take the spindle out if the expander button and decapping pin are in place.

Can you disable the indexing on your classic turret so you can apply a little torque to the stuck case remover?

It doesn't take much torque to thread brass and it doesn't take much torque to back out the stuck case once you have the stuck case tool installed. You need to either figure out a way to lock your turret down, or fix your vise. If you use the vise, use a couple blocks of wood to cushion the jaws so you don't bugger the threads on your die.

I don't think carbide dies will prevent what happened - but Dillon makes them as well. Last I looked they were $165 for a set of carbide .223 dies. They are really meant for commercial loaders that need to load 10's of thousands of rounds without any die wear. They still have to be lubricated for bottleneck cases.
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With the rod out the top plate the dies mount on still spin. hard to hold it and try and turn the tap at the same time. I was just sitting here thinking that I will try and zip tie the plate to where it cant move to turn the tap.

or just head to home depot and buy 3 lag bolts and bolt up the single stage again.
 
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