Looking for a mouse gun with double strike capability

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Looking for a mouse gun with double strike capability, 380 or 9MM. Does anyone have suggestions for brands names to look for?

I have a Kel Tec and per a phone call to Kel Tec if the trigger is not allowed to fully return will get light strikes on the primer. Something about the trigger block, which i did not understand. Requiring the round be racked out. Dont like that. Seecamp makes a great 380 but to rich for my blood, and 18 month back order. Another that i like is the Kimber, forgot what it is called, but it sure was pretty and with a crimson trace, was over a grand $1200 with taxes.
 
Looking for a mouse gun with double strike capability, 380 or 9MM. Does anyone have suggestions for brands names to look for?
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I have to ask why? If I get a click I would not bother to pull the trigger again (Unless it is a revolver). I would respond to a click with a tap rack bang. Various things could cause that click and pulling the trigger again is wasted time IMO. I want my gun up and running ASAP. Pulling the trigger again adds a step that may or may not deal with the underlying problem.

Not sure that I'd call a Kimber 9mm a mouse gun. How small a weapon are you after.
 
:) that kimber was so pretty that i looked at and fondled at Cabelas, i amd sure i was blinded. If my wife had not been with me .... regardles it was nice. I would like to find something along the size of the Kel Tel 380 or Tarus TCP or Ruger LCP. I may wind up with a Colt defender in 45 ACP At least I would trust the gun to go bang on command.

Hope i answered the question about size. but i see your point about better to rack and put in new round. I have a Glock 17L , have never had a problem, with light primer strikes. Like my Glock.
 
Oh man, I'm drawing a blank and it's going to drive me nuts.

What song is that at the very beginning of the youtube vid linked by Reaper?
 
I have to ask why? If I get a click I would not bother to pull the trigger again (Unless it is a revolver). I would respond to a click with a tap rack bang.

This is the correct answer to your question. If the round is a dud get rid of it, just tap,rack,and bang.
 
I forgot about the NAA gaurdian. It is identical to the Seecamp , except for some size and weight. The Seecamp is a true double action. I still have my 32 cal Seecamp. So some experience. At my age and circumstances i will only be carrying one handgun, 32 caliber is a little weak IMO.
 
Hmm not aware that the 709 slim had second strike. I know the kel tec p11 does. will check.
 
I forgot about the NAA gaurdian. It is identical to the Seecamp , except for some size and weight. The Seecamp is a true double action. I still have my 32 cal Seecamp. So some experience. At my age and circumstances i will only be carrying one handgun, 32 caliber is a little weak IMO.
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The naa in the link is a .380, not that there is much difference between .32 and .380 but just so you know I linked it in direct response to your thread asking for a true dao in .380 or 9mm.
 
Again, why are you wrapped around the second strike?


1911's, Glocks, Browning Hi-Powers . . . none of those have the so-called "second strike" feature.


The proper drill for a click on a semi-automatic is not to pull the trigger again.

These aren't logical choices for a range gun; you're looking at defensive handguns.


A bit of free advice . . . stop reading what those silly gun writers say and laud about the supposed advantage of that "second strike" foolishness. Ignore it. No reputable trainer I know on the planet teaches that the proper response to a "click" on a semi-automatic is to pull the trigger again.
 
Again, why are you wrapped around the second strike?



because of age and physical disability in my left arm. it is difficult to rack the slide with out changing hands. otherwise i am limited to revolvers.
 
I have problems with my hands as well.


But carrying a semi-auto designed to drop the hammer regardless of whether the round fired or not isn't a good solution to your problem.


A revolver is. That's what I carry these days, and believe me, I have a LOT of money invested into some of my semi-autos. Enough to buy a few Colt Pythons.


But hey, that's life. There are many reasons why a semi-automatic might not fire, or get tied up and stop working. A light primer strike is only one of them, and it's really low on the list of the most common causes of malfunctions. If you don't have the hand strength to work the slide, you should consider carrying a gun you can work, not one you can't and buying a work-around that really isn't one in an attempt to solve your problem.


There are semi-automatics that have slides that those with limited hand strength can make work. None of them are small, though. Browning Hi-Powers have a recoil spring that's fairly easy to overcome. So do full and Commander sized 1911's in 9mm. The Beretta model 86 was a tip up barrel .380 that any shooter could clear, but it's discontinued now.


But "mouse guns" and light recoil springs are polar opposites. That's the way it goes.


In your situation, if you need small, I'd suggest a J-frame revolver.
 
because of age and physical disability in my left arm. it is difficult to rack the slide with out changing hands. otherwise i am limited to revolvers.
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Honestly, I would buy a revolver then. As, I and others have tried to say, second strike just isn't likely to cause a click to be bang in many instances so the second strike on a semi auto avails you nothing in such cases.

Further, there are other types of malfunctions in a semi that require racking the slide to clear. If I were unable to properly clear malfunctions on a particular firearm I would not want to carry it.

Bullfrog is correct in saying that double strike capabilities don't really solve your problem at all. In my experience a double feed, or an empty chamber from not having seated the magazine fully, are more common malfunctions than a light primer strike. Double strike does nothing for those.

I'm not trying to be dismissive of your situation. Just the opposite, I don't want to see you mistakenly thinking you have something that fits your needs when it really doesn't.

If hand strength is a concern in firing a revolver I would suggest a Ruger LCR.

Little guns like the LCP are marginal (at best) carry guns anyhow and not really because of the caliber in my estimation. Simply put one cannot run them like they can a larger gun. They are BUGs or deep cover guns.

If you are set on carry a semi auto I would make sure I was using a good hard holster that allowed me to rack the gun one handed by placing either the rear sight or the ejection port of the slide against an edge of the holster.

If one is going to carry a gun, one should be able run it. This takes training and lots of practice.
 
some of the people here really seems to know what they are talking about I really don't see a need for a 2nd strike unless it just for target shooting. If you talking about SD and need small like some of the people been saying a small revolver would serve you best. I don't really remember ever having a round fail to fire that a 2nd strike did it except with 22's.

be safe
 
NAA Guardian will work for you but seriously, double strike capability is wayyyyyy overrated. 1911s, Glocks, XDs, M&Ps, etc. all do not have double strike.
 
All I can say about this is that I've successfully used a double strike trigger action many more times than I've had to clear a fouled pistol. If the man wants a double strike what does it matter to any of us?

I can't see how anyone can argue that pulling the trigger a second time is slower than racking the slide and/or swapping mags. Clearing a gun in the midst of being attacked is greatly overrated. If your gun malfunctions during an altercation, it instantly become a club. With a DA trigger you at least have a chance to fire a crappy or hard primer.

I'd rather have it than not.
 
Your gun has a better chance of jamming by FTE, or FTF than the odds of a recalcitrant primer gumming up the works.

Something to think about.

But in the end yes, if the man wants a double strike then have at it. Just make sure it functions on the feed and eject first and formost before the infinitely small likelihood of a stubborn primer that a double strick MAY fix.
 
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