Looking for help with a Glock Decision

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Regarding bears, please read:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=601117

When a bear jumps on you or charges you completely unexpectedly, even a rifle in hand may not be fast enough to help you.

As with many things I've learned here, thinking about the physical aspects and speed of actions involved...sometime backup plans aren't worth planning for at all.

I have a bear reserve not far from me, but when I hike I carry something suitable for dogs or 2 legged predators. From all the bear attack stories I've read, he'll either kill me, leave me alone or firing my weapon "may" scare him off enough to end the attack.
 
ny32182 said:
There are millions and millions... and millions of Glocks in circulation. If they had "kaboom issues", you'd hear about them blowing up a bit more often than once every now and again.

My G19 and 34 have seen about 10k reloads in the last year and a half... no kaboom yet. :rolleyes: The 34 is at 7500 rounds, never seen a factory round of ammo, and never will.
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I've been driving for many years now and I've never been in a car crash. Does that mean that cars don't crash?

You hear about it often enough. Here are some people hearing about it on this very forum:

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-86558.html
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-541836.html
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-291821.html
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-335039.html
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-139656.html

There are more (on this very forum) and you can find them through Google, but that's enough for now.
 
Point is, Glock has Kaboom issues. Particularly with reloads as milefile mentioned he wishes to do, so I think that rules out Glock as one of his options.
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My god! somebody should tell all those tens of thousands of people who reload for Glocks that they just begging to get blown up! :barf:

OP, I see a clear winner for your situation: G20 SF

There really isn't a whole lot of comparison between the 10mm and the 45 acp in terms of power, here is a heavy load for the 10:

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/ca...ucts_id=105&osCsid=qt30db2stcqto4kj8e0a4hhe63

and here is a heavy load for the .45:

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_34&products_id=428

That 10 mm load starts out with 750 ft lbs, and still has more energy at 100 yds than the .45 has at the muzzle. Since you don't have to worry about the great bears, I would think a G20 would be about the perfect woods defense pistol. The only thing the 10mm gives up to the .45 is ammo availability, and since you reload already, for the $40 price of some good carbide dies, you could pretty much negate that advantage.
 
My G21SF RTF2 has shot reloads only, no kabooms.....so did the G21SF before it, and the G21 before that one. My friends have G21s that consume reloads with no problems.
Now that I am thinking of it, my Glock 26,19,17(x2), and 34 all shoot reloads, no kabooms.........
My carry G17 is closing in on 10,000 rounds at the moment. 99% are reloads, zero problems.

I would get the G21SF. You already reload 45 acp, and if you stoke it right, it should be able to take care of those animals as long as you do your part.
 
I've been driving for many years now and I've never been in a car crash. Does that mean that cars don't crash?
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Are you suggesting I should stop driving cars because there is a chance I could be in a crash someday?
 
heard heard heard......i've heard of Glocks going Kaboom, i also heard a friend of mine who knows a guy that saw big foot chilling in an UFO with Elvis....

meanwhile i'll go on and be happy with carrying my Glock 19
 
BryanDavis said:
Have you heard about Glock 45s' kaboom issue?

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html

Just try googling "Glock" and "kaboom" sometime, some pretty interesting stuff turns up.

If I were you, I'd pick up a Springfield XD instead.

I personally don't like non-captive recoil springs so I prefer the original XDs over the XDm's, but your mileage may vary.

(That and as far as I can tell, all the Springfield XD is, is an improved version of the Glock.)
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Just for gits and shiggles, I did just what you said and came up with 257,000 hits for Glock. So then I tried Beretta, 229,000 hits. XDm? 14,000 results. And Springfield + Kaboom? 766,000! Very interesting indeed.

Oh, and also tried just xd kaboom. 1,120,000 results. I guess it is time to give up shooting handguns.
 
Oh, and also tried just xd kaboom. 1,120,000 results. I guess it is time to give up shooting handguns.
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At least until the search results show it's safe. :D

Glock 21 or 20? The 21 has a more convenient caliber, but less power. The 20 a less convenient caliber and more power. This becomes less inconvenient if you reload it. I'd probably go with the .45 unless you plan on handgun hunting with it. As a last ditch weapon for wild animals (excluding the gargantuan variety) the .45 can do.
 
Have you heard about Glock 45s' kaboom issue?
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*facepalm**

google kabooms and you'll find pics of blown up xdm's as well, as well as just about any other gun out there.

bad reloads or defective factory ammo will make any gun kaboom.


there are FAR more glocks out there than xdm's, thus it's more common with them.
 
Well I ended up going with the G20. FOund one in OD green, to, which was my preference and I feel pretty lucky to have found it. It was actually the only one I could find locally. Will take it to the range tomorrow with two boxes of factory ammo, 180 gr Remington and 180 gr American Eagle, neither of which really represent the reason I wanted the 10mm. But it'll give me a general idea of the gun. I also picked up a set of dies, some Blue Dot, and some Hornady 180 gr XTP bullets. Next time I'll try out some really 10mm loads.

Oh, and "G20 Kaboom" returned 76,300 results.
 
milefile said:
Well I ended up going with the G20. FOund one in OD green, to, which was my preference and I feel pretty lucky to have found it. It was actually the only one I could find locally. Will take it to the range tomorrow with two boxes of factory ammo, 180 gr Remington and 180 gr American Eagle, neither of which really represent the reason I wanted the 10mm. But it'll give me a general idea of the gun. I also picked up a set of dies, some Blue Dot, and some Hornady 180 gr XTP bullets. Next time I'll try out some really 10mm loads.

Oh, and "G20 Kaboom" returned 76,300 results.
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Awesome! That is the perfect number of Google kaboom results to ensure a safe and positive experience.

I hope all goes well with your new gun and I hope you will post a photo or two. I love the green ones.
 
I've been issued or bought Glock's (mostly 22's) for 8 years. I usually shoot about 2000 rounds per year. My current G22 is a generation 3 that I've been carrying for about 6 years has never had a problem other than a magazine related ftf. Now from what I've read most of the issues with is with the .45acp, but I know 2 officers that carry the G21 and have never had an issue. Most of the issued I've read about have been related to hand loaded ammo which was loaded past the specs for the .45acp.
 
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Good choice. Glock 20 FTW.

I have a G20SF and love the gun. It is my favorite handgun, and my other handguns are also very nice and I like them a lot also(CZ 75/Colt Combat Elite) so that says a lot about the Glock 20 IMO. I also have a 6" LWD 9x25 Dillon barrel for it for fun. Great gun, and great caliper.(the 10mm) Fired quite a few Swampfox hardcast full power 10mm loads threw it's factory barrel with zero Kabooms.
 
I could of picked up a G20 FS this past friday for $540 + tax from a LGS. I know I can beat that price to death through a FFL friend of mine. And he will still put some cash in his pocket. As bad as I want one, walking away was hard to do.
 
Just left the range. First time with G20. Ten yards. Body magazine #1. Head magazine #2. a6cd09e6-f65f-372c.jpg

Very happy with my new Glock!


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JROC said:
^ Good deal.

Now try some real 10mm. This is the hot stuff.
http://www.swampfoxgunworks.com/swampfox/home.php?cat=335
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I know. Going to be putting together some reloads this week. SD ammo will likely end up being Doubletap.

For what I shot today, though, the Remington was way better than the American Eagle. AE cases bulged, less accurate. Remington hit at POA and cases retained their shape.


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The people I know who do hot loads in a G20 get an aftermarket barrel with a tighter chamber to enhance the life of the brass vs. firing it in the loose factory chamber. I don't know how many extra reloads they expect to see on a typical case as a result.

I don't own a G20 at the moment, but have shot a small quantity of a variety of factory loads through my Smith 1006, and can say that the big name factory loads, even Hydrashocks, had absolutely nothing on Doubletap loads... night and day in terms of the difference in blast and recoil. The doubletap loads are the only autopistol loads I've ever shot that actually made the web of my hand sting. Unfortunately I did not chrono.
 
I bought the G21 because;

Buy a 400 Corbon barrel :uhoh: 10mm barrel and mags and shoot that round :D

Did both of above...Is it a waste of money :scrutiny:

Might be for some;)
 
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