Looking to buy a 1911 Gov Model
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denfoote
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Springfield 1911A1 mil spec!!!
About $400 here in AZ!!
About $400 here in AZ!!
Get the original, get a Colt 1991A1.
They have WWI & WWII repros that are ridiculously gorgeous. Hope you have upwards of $800, though...
If I had the cash, I'd get one. Oh, and if my communist controlled govt saw fit for me to own one too, that is....
Anyhow, if you don't have that kind of cash, the 1991A1s go for about $5-600 NIB.
Sweet guns. Most all who have them love them. Reliable, no problems.
They have WWI & WWII repros that are ridiculously gorgeous. Hope you have upwards of $800, though...
If I had the cash, I'd get one. Oh, and if my communist controlled govt saw fit for me to own one too, that is....
Anyhow, if you don't have that kind of cash, the 1991A1s go for about $5-600 NIB.
Sweet guns. Most all who have them love them. Reliable, no problems.
Rob96
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Colt is considered to be putting out the best Mil-Spec Gov't model today. I bought my stainless one for $600 in June. Totally reliable even with hollowpoints.
VG
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Don't buy a USGI style pistol. The sights are not very good and modern versions have much better sights, and other "creature comforts" like better grips, safeties, triggers, hammers, etc.
Just buy some modern clone, as your budget allows.
Just buy some modern clone, as your budget allows.
Tomac
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The Rock Island Armory milspec .45 is going for $299 dealer price nowadays. Accurate, reliable, good fit/finish/trigger right out of the box, hardchromed bbl, no MIM/plastic parts, what's not to like?
Tomac
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Sir, for many (if not most) the appeal of the 1911 is its very rich history, a large part of which is its basic, no-frills design.
If this pistol was good enough for my grandfather to carry, then I'll be damned if it isn't good enough for me. 1991A1 all the way...
VG
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Sure. Below is a 1944 manufactured Remington Rand. It is very comparable to the issue pistols I carried on active duty up to 1985 when I got out.
Compare the grips, sights, trigger, backstrap, hammer, and safety and you will
see that they have all evolved to deliver better accuracy, and a more comfortable, ergonomic grip. Together, these factors make a BIG difference in accuracy and comfort. And purchase price, with some tight, high quality M1911 clones selling for $1,500 and up.
So, if you are nostalgic or excessively romantic, by all means buy a new production M1911 "Mil-Spec." You'll learn quickly that the advantages and disadvatanges of this configuration of this pistols are incredibly hyped by enthusiasts and manufacturers. And that the many, many replacement parts made since then are designed to improve the accuracy and ergonomics of the issue design. The Army units using M1911's don't advertise their selections, but the USMC purchases of parts for their "MEUSOC" pistols are all of the improved patterns - what was good enough for their grandfathers (or me) may not be good enough to win the battles of the 21st century.
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Tamara
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Drjones,
I read this with interest while giving my 107 year-old Krag its monthly oiling. If I want to hold history, I'll go grab one of my pre-war Smiths or my '43 byf Mauser. I like my carry 1911's not for their history, but because of the fact that they shoot faster and more accurately in my hands than any other gun I've tried, while throwing a large bullet. Anything that helps them do this better is peachy-keen in my book.
I read this with interest while giving my 107 year-old Krag its monthly oiling. If I want to hold history, I'll go grab one of my pre-war Smiths or my '43 byf Mauser. I like my carry 1911's not for their history, but because of the fact that they shoot faster and more accurately in my hands than any other gun I've tried, while throwing a large bullet. Anything that helps them do this better is peachy-keen in my book.
1911Tuner
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Win a Battle
Pistols don't win battles, but they often save the lives of the men who do.
A pistol in a war zone is unlikely to be called up, but if it is, it's likely
because the infantryman finds himself deep in the swamp, up to his
arse in alligators without a functioning rifle. The engagement ranges will probably be short and the time frames fast. Blocky sights won't be necessary, nor will match accuracy and crisp triggers. If I were in Iraq or Afghanistan with a rifle company today, I would feel just as confident with that old Rand as with anything else that comes to mind, and probably
moreso, considering some of the examples I've been involved with.
Just my nickel's worth...
Tuner
Pistols don't win battles, but they often save the lives of the men who do.
A pistol in a war zone is unlikely to be called up, but if it is, it's likely
because the infantryman finds himself deep in the swamp, up to his
arse in alligators without a functioning rifle. The engagement ranges will probably be short and the time frames fast. Blocky sights won't be necessary, nor will match accuracy and crisp triggers. If I were in Iraq or Afghanistan with a rifle company today, I would feel just as confident with that old Rand as with anything else that comes to mind, and probably
moreso, considering some of the examples I've been involved with.
Just my nickel's worth...
Tuner
I've had very good luck with the Series 80 and 91 Colts in the areas of function and durability. You might want to look at a compromise between tradition and modernity. Colt has Series 70 re-issue that looks like the original commercial models but has current lockwork (no passive firing pin safety). They have the modern high visibility sights that look a lot like the Tappin-King replacements but are not a whole lot cosmetically different than the ones on the standard 1911 A1
On the other hand, many shooter find both the 1911 and the 11 a1 grip safety tangs uncomfortable and the current 1991-New Roll Mark) colt bevertails preven any pinching by the hammer or woodpecker injuries from the 11A1 tang.
It seem that all the 1911's have fluctuations in quality control that are generally not reported in the gun press. My good luck with the Colts may be just that (luck) but I'm considering adding another one to the pile.
On the other hand, many shooter find both the 1911 and the 11 a1 grip safety tangs uncomfortable and the current 1991-New Roll Mark) colt bevertails preven any pinching by the hammer or woodpecker injuries from the 11A1 tang.
It seem that all the 1911's have fluctuations in quality control that are generally not reported in the gun press. My good luck with the Colts may be just that (luck) but I'm considering adding another one to the pile.
Black Majik
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I'll add another vote to the pile for a Colt Government Series 80.
Mine has proven to be flawless and is a straight shooter!
Mine has proven to be flawless and is a straight shooter!
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