M1A or AR-15?
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No4Mk1*
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You do not have to rock the m14 magazine in. Try pushing it straight up and see for yourself.
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well,i have 2 m1a's,1 full e2 and a standard,both smiths.i also have 7 ar's.after reading all the probs getting an m1a to shoot moa,and probs keeping it at moa,i'd try something like an armalite 308 monolithic rail free float upper,match grade gisselle ssa trigger this time.it's now hard to justify an m1a at 2-3 k,that shoots 2-3 moa or more at 100 yards.
colt now has a 308/223 conversion setup
http://www.tacticalgearmag.com/profiles/blogs/colt-le901-16s-from-5-56-to-7-62-in-30-seconds
colt now has a 308/223 conversion setup
http://www.tacticalgearmag.com/profiles/blogs/colt-le901-16s-from-5-56-to-7-62-in-30-seconds
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Owen Sparks
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You can get an AR in .308.
I'd say the AR is the way to go, but I had a bad experience with an M1A in my early years (something about left-handed and ejection and a really bad burn from hot brass that was caught up my sleeve). It's a heavy, somewhat finicky weapons system in my experience. My AR's have treated me better than my friends' M1A's.
But that's one person's opinion, YMMV.
But that's one person's opinion, YMMV.
EmbarkChief
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My .02
I have both. My M1A Scout will be the last rifle I part with.
I have both. My M1A Scout will be the last rifle I part with.
Sheepdog1968
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I'd go for the M1A. You already own an AR so why not try something new. Even if you didn't own and AR, I'd reccomend the M1A. I like the Garand style action more.
MikeS.
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M1A since you have the AR.
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I own both and would take an AR in .308 over a M1A1 hands down.
Easy to scope, less quirky, better value IMO.
Easy to scope, less quirky, better value IMO.
boricua9mm
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If an AR15 were not already in the stable, I would recommend that first. Since you already have one, go for the M1A. Try to buy one in person and look for one with some USGI parts.
I have a Springfield Standard from '07 with an H&R trigger group. The only accuracy mods have been a Sadlak NM spring guide and a Sadlak TiNi non-grooved gas piston. Scoped, that rifle at 100 yards regularly returns 1.5" 10-shot groups with Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr or reloaded equivalents. A 1MOA M1A might be a pain in the neck to achieve and maintain, but I am more than happy with a 1.5" rifle with no bedding to worry about.
I prefer it over the ARs in .308 b/c there's still no standard for them, although the Knights pattern mag has more of a foothold than anything else. they are all-around easier and cheaper to work with, but they don't have the same soul.
I have a Springfield Standard from '07 with an H&R trigger group. The only accuracy mods have been a Sadlak NM spring guide and a Sadlak TiNi non-grooved gas piston. Scoped, that rifle at 100 yards regularly returns 1.5" 10-shot groups with Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr or reloaded equivalents. A 1MOA M1A might be a pain in the neck to achieve and maintain, but I am more than happy with a 1.5" rifle with no bedding to worry about.
I prefer it over the ARs in .308 b/c there's still no standard for them, although the Knights pattern mag has more of a foothold than anything else. they are all-around easier and cheaper to work with, but they don't have the same soul.
Get one of those new Colt convertable rifles? http://www.coltsmfg.com/Catalog/ColtRifles/SP901.aspx
That way you have both!
Tough choice to have to make. AR's have gone down in price, M1a's have NOT. They remain good looking robust rifles but you have to really want one to justify the price of ammo vs. a 5.56 (if you're going to shoot matches and such).
That way you have both!
Tough choice to have to make. AR's have gone down in price, M1a's have NOT. They remain good looking robust rifles but you have to really want one to justify the price of ammo vs. a 5.56 (if you're going to shoot matches and such).
mortablunt
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@ Flashcube:
An M1A, G3, and an FAL? The only thing missing is an SVT-40.
An M1A, G3, and an FAL? The only thing missing is an SVT-40.
TexasPatriot.308
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M1A, AR15, two different animals, no comparison, each has it use, but agin no compare.
I've had the M1A and found that the .308 needs to be scoped to get the most out of the cartridge.
The M1A is more difficult to scope than say a bolt action and adding a mount and scope adds weight and makes it balance differently.
I went the .308 AR route and found that when it was also scoped it made for a heavier rifle than I wanted.
Were I to do it all over again I would've just stayed with an AR in 6.8 and had the best of both worlds.
The M1A is more difficult to scope than say a bolt action and adding a mount and scope adds weight and makes it balance differently.
I went the .308 AR route and found that when it was also scoped it made for a heavier rifle than I wanted.
Were I to do it all over again I would've just stayed with an AR in 6.8 and had the best of both worlds.
Gtimothy
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Update: First of all I want to thank everyone for the input, it was greatly appreciated and I enjoyed hearing everyone's opinion. I sat down and discussed my choices with my wife last night. I always use her as a "sounding board" before I do things because she usually keeps me from doing stupid things. Because I only intend to poke holes in paper at this point and am already set up with magazines and ammunition, I decided to buy another AR-15. She assured me that this was not a "zero sum gain" and that I would be able to get the M1A in the future if I still wanted one. I guess in the end it came down to how bad I really wanted to have my OWN AR-15 over buying an M1A!
So now the question is, which AR15 should you get?
Gtimothy
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This is the gun I'm putting together:
Adams Arms Gas piston (carbine) upper, Palmetto State Armory lower w/Magpul furniture, Troy Industries folding battle sights (front and rear), Leupold Mark AR 3X9x-40mm Duplex Glass on an American Defense AD-RECON Quick Detatch Scope Mount!
I think I'll have a good time with this set up. I'll have to put a quad rail on it eventually to accomodate a bipod. Just have to do a little research first!
Adams Arms Gas piston (carbine) upper, Palmetto State Armory lower w/Magpul furniture, Troy Industries folding battle sights (front and rear), Leupold Mark AR 3X9x-40mm Duplex Glass on an American Defense AD-RECON Quick Detatch Scope Mount!
I think I'll have a good time with this set up. I'll have to put a quad rail on it eventually to accomodate a bipod. Just have to do a little research first!
Gtimothy
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Looks "NASTY"! How is the recoil?
P-32
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G Timothy, I put some more thought into your question. I don’t think you would go wrong with a M1A. The value seemingly continues to climb. I’ve put off getting a Match M-1A long enough it will be hard to justify the $ lay out. And they will only go up and up. My $ .02.
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I like that stock Fox.... Just canot imaging myself spending $800 for one
Gtimothy
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I have no experience with the "Bullpup" configuration so was curious as to "felt" recoil. I do remember how the M-14 left my shoulder after shooting for quals. Military stock with metal buttplate = bruises!
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