I did buy one box of their hollow point personal protection ammo, but honestly, i have not tested it. The reason is because i also bought a bag of the same bullets, and loaded them my self. With my initial loads, firing into milk jugs, there was z-e-r-o expansion. I thought that velocity might be an issue, so i loaded up a set and worked them up as h-o-t as i could go without fearing (and actuall went to far) for my well being. The results were almost identical. There was just a little bit of opening up of the mouth. At that point, i did not have a chrono. But the primers showed definite signs of over pressure, the cases were bulged slightly, and the edge of the mouth was torn from hitting something on the gun on its way out. Trust me, you do not want to go there. The only way i could think of them working well is if maybe they hit something like bone. But a good hollow point is supposed to open in soft flesh. That is the point (actually, the hollow point). I would buy another brand. Personally, i bought winchester silvertips. If they were available at the time, i think i would have boughten remington golden sabres. By the way, the winchesters do open up. I have not tried anything else yet.