Magazines and clips...
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Jim Watson
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Somebody will be along shortly to tell you the difference, but the reason is that they want you to know they are smarter than you.
What really gets up my nose is the clip expert who proceeds to load his ammunition feeding device with "bullets." Or slugs the "bore" of his rifle to determine bullet diameter.
What really gets up my nose is the clip expert who proceeds to load his ammunition feeding device with "bullets." Or slugs the "bore" of his rifle to determine bullet diameter.
Tommygunn
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A magazine is considered to be an enclosed box with a spring that pushes the rounds up, such as what a Colt 1911 or a Glock 17 would use.
A clip simply holds the rounds in order. A good example is the M1 Garand which used an "en bloc" 8 round clip. It held the cartridges by the rear. They were loaded into the rifle by pushing them down from the top with the bolt held open, and then the bolt was allowed to close chambering the 1st round. The spring that pushed the rounds up was actually part of the rifle and remained that way.
A clip simply holds the rounds in order. A good example is the M1 Garand which used an "en bloc" 8 round clip. It held the cartridges by the rear. They were loaded into the rifle by pushing them down from the top with the bolt held open, and then the bolt was allowed to close chambering the 1st round. The spring that pushed the rounds up was actually part of the rifle and remained that way.
Ala Dan
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Magazines is the preferred term, when talking about a firearms device
that holds ammo; whether it be handgun, rifle, of shotgun. Clips is the
term used for clip on holster's, a pocket apparatus for KEL-TEC pistols,
etc.
When someone comes into my shop, and says he/she needs a magazine
for a Springfield Armory 9m/m XDM; then I know exactly what he or she
speakth about. When they use the term "clip", often times I wonder~?
FootNote: You will often hear someone ask for a "stripper clip"; which in this
case is the correct terminology.
that holds ammo; whether it be handgun, rifle, of shotgun. Clips is the
term used for clip on holster's, a pocket apparatus for KEL-TEC pistols,
etc.
When someone comes into my shop, and says he/she needs a magazine
for a Springfield Armory 9m/m XDM; then I know exactly what he or she
speakth about. When they use the term "clip", often times I wonder~?
FootNote: You will often hear someone ask for a "stripper clip"; which in this
case is the correct terminology.
''ammunition feeding device''
I like that I think from now on I'm going to call clips and magazines that! An AFD!!! I don't mind calling them bullets or cartridges either; both seem right to me. Why do people care about calling those the correct names?
I like that I think from now on I'm going to call clips and magazines that! An AFD!!! I don't mind calling them bullets or cartridges either; both seem right to me. Why do people care about calling those the correct names?
DoubleTapDrew
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magazine: spring
clip: no spring
clip: no spring
Shear_stress
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Not really. Lots of stripper clips include leaf springs.
ChronoCube
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I think of it as:
magazine -- feeds into chamber
clip -- feeds into magazine
i used to care a lot about this, but at this point, the difference for me is
Clip=one syllable
magazine=3.
i'm lazy, and no one else is into guns as much as i am, so no one knows the difference, and i dont come off as much of an arrogant ass when correcting someone in conversation.
Clip=one syllable
magazine=3.
i'm lazy, and no one else is into guns as much as i am, so no one knows the difference, and i dont come off as much of an arrogant ass when correcting someone in conversation.
ChronoCube
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"mag" is one syllable too 
well, touche!!!
nah, but seriously, i'm just happy if someone else has an interest in guns at all at this point, and i'm not going to stand there like a schoolteacher and correct them, that is, until they start calling the rounds on stripper clips and in en block clips "mags", haha...
besides, look at old literature, i see plenty of references to magazines being clips. I gave up with my dad, i just realized that he isn't wrong, he just grew up reading clips, for the most part.
nah, but seriously, i'm just happy if someone else has an interest in guns at all at this point, and i'm not going to stand there like a schoolteacher and correct them, that is, until they start calling the rounds on stripper clips and in en block clips "mags", haha...
besides, look at old literature, i see plenty of references to magazines being clips. I gave up with my dad, i just realized that he isn't wrong, he just grew up reading clips, for the most part.
MedWheeler
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Someone said here once: Magazines load guns. Clips load magazines.
I'm not sure where the word "clip" originates in this context. "Magazine" is Latin, and means a "place of storage", usually of a commodity. Learned that while in Russia, when finding out why a store or shop there is called a "magazine" (Lots of Latin influence in Russian.)
Just more useless info, huh?
Doesn't bother me anymore what people call 'em..
I'm not sure where the word "clip" originates in this context. "Magazine" is Latin, and means a "place of storage", usually of a commodity. Learned that while in Russia, when finding out why a store or shop there is called a "magazine" (Lots of Latin influence in Russian.)
Just more useless info, huh?
Doesn't bother me anymore what people call 'em..
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Aran
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My new word for guns is ammospazzer, and my new word for gun owners is spazblammer.
If you correct me, you're just trying to show me how smart you are, 'cause what does it matter?
there is a difference between stating the obvious and nitpicking casual details.
to some, it is a magazine, to others it is a clip, if you KNOW what they mean when they say it, than they have conveyed their message to you, and you obviously knew what they meant, why go around policing everyone about vocabulary? is that your job?
If someone knows what end the bullet comes out of, knows how to work the safety/action, knows how to take care of it and store it properly, i don't care which name they call the parts on their gun.
I do know you are right, I also call them magazines, but I won't correct people on it anymore, because it still won't help, and it just makes me, or whoever else does it, irritating to be around.
Have you ever talked to anyone who is convinced that a regular differential is a "limited-slip"? there are a LOT of people out there who are convinced of such things as the " drive-wheel" or that a standard truck has a "limited-slip".
I know they are wrong when they say that, its an open differential, a limited slip is a more expensive option, with clutch plates, but i'm not on a personal crusade to correct all the vocabulary errors of the world.
to some, it is a magazine, to others it is a clip, if you KNOW what they mean when they say it, than they have conveyed their message to you, and you obviously knew what they meant, why go around policing everyone about vocabulary? is that your job?
If someone knows what end the bullet comes out of, knows how to work the safety/action, knows how to take care of it and store it properly, i don't care which name they call the parts on their gun.
I do know you are right, I also call them magazines, but I won't correct people on it anymore, because it still won't help, and it just makes me, or whoever else does it, irritating to be around.
Have you ever talked to anyone who is convinced that a regular differential is a "limited-slip"? there are a LOT of people out there who are convinced of such things as the " drive-wheel" or that a standard truck has a "limited-slip".
I know they are wrong when they say that, its an open differential, a limited slip is a more expensive option, with clutch plates, but i'm not on a personal crusade to correct all the vocabulary errors of the world.
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Aran
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Words have meanings.
mustang_steve
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It has nothing with wang swinging over gun knowledge and more about proper firearms education.
A Magazine feeds the ammo into the firing chamber. A revolver's cylinder is technically a magazine in this regard.
A Clip "feeds" a magazine. Thus why revolvers have "moon clips" and not "moon magazines", as the cylinder is technically a magazine.
So long as you remember it like that, it makes more sense.
Another way to think of it. Clip is an ingredient, magazine is the food, and your mouth is the firing chamber.....people typically do not pour flour, then yeast/sugar then salt into their mouths directly. However we will put freshly baked bread into our mouths, which the ingredients make.
A Magazine feeds the ammo into the firing chamber. A revolver's cylinder is technically a magazine in this regard.
A Clip "feeds" a magazine. Thus why revolvers have "moon clips" and not "moon magazines", as the cylinder is technically a magazine.
So long as you remember it like that, it makes more sense.
Another way to think of it. Clip is an ingredient, magazine is the food, and your mouth is the firing chamber.....people typically do not pour flour, then yeast/sugar then salt into their mouths directly. However we will put freshly baked bread into our mouths, which the ingredients make.
There's no reason to actually get mad, but what I don't understand is why some people, after learning the proper terminology, refuse to use it. Perhaps they're bitter over how arrogant some people were in correcting them, but I still think that applying what one has learned is generally more constructive in life.
Anyway, the basic difference is that a magazine encloses the cartridges and feeds them into the action of a firearm, while a clip is a minimal device used for holding rounds together, usually to feed into a magazine or the cylinder of a revolver (which itself could be considered a magazine of sorts). Magazines can either be built into a gun or be detachable and therefore easily replaceable.
You could sort of justify using the terms interchangeably if you define them both simply as something that holds bullets together for convenience, but the fact is that there is a distinction, and those who know the proper terminology should use it because it's not that hard, really.
That's unnecessarily insulting and just as bad as calling somebody "stupid" for not having been born with such knowledge. Because of Hollywood, I used to believe that "magazines" fed rifles and "clips" fed handguns, but when I learned what these terms really meant, I applied my new knowledge and began to share it with others. If there is something wrong with this, then by all means encourage continued ignorance.
Well, at least they got one set of terminology straight--that's better than nothing.
me aint knows why do us has use well grammar two? what make difference there their or they're? maybe it say some not want learn or cant.
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yep, words have meanings. no one will argue that point.
marlin and remington have called magazine's clips in the past. it isn't that uncommon on .22's. Doesn't one of the old m-1 carbine informational movies from the 1940's also reference the magazine as a "clip"?
A lot of old timers out there call it a clip because that is what it WAS called back then. there was no one correcting them about this because everyone understands what they mean.
marlin and remington have called magazine's clips in the past. it isn't that uncommon on .22's. Doesn't one of the old m-1 carbine informational movies from the 1940's also reference the magazine as a "clip"?
A lot of old timers out there call it a clip because that is what it WAS called back then. there was no one correcting them about this because everyone understands what they mean.
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Aran
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So are you arguing language doesn't evolve?
In that case, you'll be pretty gay to hear that there are some languages where that's true, unlike English. Maybe you can get together and suck some fags with a few scientists and learn Latin.
In that case, you'll be pretty gay to hear that there are some languages where that's true, unlike English. Maybe you can get together and suck some fags with a few scientists and learn Latin.
mustang_steve
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Nice man, I got a chuckle out of that play on words.
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