PILMAN
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So I've been having a discussion with some liberals over the movie "Elephant" which is based off the columbine school shooting.
In the movie, there is a scene where the kids go on the internet to a gun site similar to impactguns or atlanticarms and end up ordering a gun. A day passes and some UPS driver or whatever knocks on their door with the package, just a signature, no check for ID. Kids open the package and theres a Bushmaster Carbon 15 in the box with 2 loaded magazines. They test it out and end up shooting up their school.
This is very very misleading to folks who have absolutely no knowledge about firearms whatsoever. I actually learned about the movie from a friend who said "Yeah but if gun control was more strict, the columbine kids wouldn't have been able to order their guns online shipped right to their house" which I promptly asked where he heard such a silly thing and told me about the movie.
After watching the movie, I started posting on IMDB when some worried soccer mom started commenting that it was sick that in America a kid could obtain a firearm so easily. (reminds me of that gunkids.com website that was shutdown).
After debating and showing them the policys on impactguns website and gunbrokers website about how one must have a firearm shipped to an FFL and be 18 years of age for a rifle, they started debating with me saying "There is nothing to stop a person from going through the blackmarket, i'm sure you heard about craigslist and you can buy handguns illegally shipped directly to your house!".
My first indication is that not only would this be unlikely (although I'm not sure if it'd be impossible) but it would be very unwise seeing that it would probably gain a lot of attention by feds if someone were selling guns and shipping directly to someones house. A person indicated customs would confiscate the firearm however I thought customs is only active on imported items. I would think packages are scanned and if they don't have the paperwork indicating it's a live firearm or a airsoft toy or whatnot that it would be confiscated. I thought this was the main reason airsoft guns and toy guns required orange tips to indicate they were not real firearms?
Anybody have more information about this what is stopping a person from mailing a gun illegally to another person or how UPS/Fedex prevents something like this?
In the movie, there is a scene where the kids go on the internet to a gun site similar to impactguns or atlanticarms and end up ordering a gun. A day passes and some UPS driver or whatever knocks on their door with the package, just a signature, no check for ID. Kids open the package and theres a Bushmaster Carbon 15 in the box with 2 loaded magazines. They test it out and end up shooting up their school.
This is very very misleading to folks who have absolutely no knowledge about firearms whatsoever. I actually learned about the movie from a friend who said "Yeah but if gun control was more strict, the columbine kids wouldn't have been able to order their guns online shipped right to their house" which I promptly asked where he heard such a silly thing and told me about the movie.
After watching the movie, I started posting on IMDB when some worried soccer mom started commenting that it was sick that in America a kid could obtain a firearm so easily. (reminds me of that gunkids.com website that was shutdown).
After debating and showing them the policys on impactguns website and gunbrokers website about how one must have a firearm shipped to an FFL and be 18 years of age for a rifle, they started debating with me saying "There is nothing to stop a person from going through the blackmarket, i'm sure you heard about craigslist and you can buy handguns illegally shipped directly to your house!".
My first indication is that not only would this be unlikely (although I'm not sure if it'd be impossible) but it would be very unwise seeing that it would probably gain a lot of attention by feds if someone were selling guns and shipping directly to someones house. A person indicated customs would confiscate the firearm however I thought customs is only active on imported items. I would think packages are scanned and if they don't have the paperwork indicating it's a live firearm or a airsoft toy or whatnot that it would be confiscated. I thought this was the main reason airsoft guns and toy guns required orange tips to indicate they were not real firearms?
Anybody have more information about this what is stopping a person from mailing a gun illegally to another person or how UPS/Fedex prevents something like this?