Man sentenced in shooting of repo agent

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Right - shooting at the tires, hit the driver in the head. I can't tell you the number of times that's happened to me. I'll have to watch this guy if he shows up at the shooting range when I'm working - get out the body armor.

http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/articles/2006/02/24/news/news02.txt

SANDPOINT -- A Priest River man who shot a repossession agent in the head has pleaded guilty to a lesser charge and was sentenced to time served.

Bruce Allen Spaude was originally charged with attempted first-degree murder in connection with the Sept. 27, 2002, shooting, but the state ultimately reduced the charge because it was unable to prove Spaude opened fire intending to harm the man.

Spaude pleaded guilty on Feb. 16 to injuring another by careless discharge of a firearm, a misdemeanor. Spaude entered the plea in Kootenai County district court. Judge Charles Hosack sentenced Spaude to 180 days in jail with 153 days suspended. Hosack gave Spaude credit for the 27 days he has already spent behind bars.

Spaude, 41, shot Victor Grant in the head with a .22-caliber rifle as Grant drove away in Spaude's repossessed Dodge pickup truck. Grant, of Greenacres, Wash., survived the shooting.

Spaude's defense counsel, Brent Featherston, had argued the defendant thought his truck was being stolen and was shooting at the truck's tires.

The prosecution initially agreed to reduce the charge to aggravated assault, but the plea negotiations faltered when a judge declined to bind himself to sentencing recommendations. The attempted murder charge was reinstated only to be reduced to injuring another by discharging an aimed firearm.

Bonner County Prosecutor Phil Robinson concluded he could not prove Spaude actually fired the shots with the purpose of injuring or killing Grant. The charge was finally amended to careless handling/discharge of a firearm.

In addition to the suspended jail sentence, Hosack fined Spaude $300, imposed $72.50 in court costs and placed him on two years of unsupervised probation
 
Hmmm, commit an act(edit) of ATTEMPTED murder and get off on a lesser charge. I suppose it would be tough to prove that he was aiming at the driver. Our wonderful justice system at work.:scrutiny:
 
I used to repo in a former life.

It doesn't matter that the somebody is 90 days or later on their car payment. It doesn't matter that they're getting bills in the mail saying they are past due. It doesn't even matter that they're getting phone calls from collectors wanting the car back.

That person taking the car can't possibly be a repo man, it must be a thief :rolleyes:
 
Man tried to steal his car.He got what he deserved.justice was served.Besides nobody was seriously hurt.
 
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no car was being stolen???

the car didn't belong to him, it belonged to the bank he borrowed the money from.
And unless your in Texas, you may not shoot someone who is stealing your car.
The Repo man is clearly the victim here.
A .22 in your noggin is serious!
 
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Steelcore said:

"Man tried to steal his car.He got what he deserved.justice was served.Besides nobody was seriously hurt."

I really hope this post was made in jest, and even if it was, it's poor taste.
 
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Reading his comments on the bottom, he was suckered into a 220%APR loan, tried to pay it, and was refused. Truck was worth many times the outstanding loan. Sounds like he really was a victim if true.
 
Nobody get's suckered into a 220% APR loan. Even the densest clod on the planet knows better than to take those kind of terms.

He got a high interest loan because that's probably the only way he could get one (i.e. history of money management problems). He didn't keep up with his payments and the loan company started stacking on fees and interest. That's where the mega-balance came from.

As for the attempted payment, I think there's a lot being left unsaid. I know a lot of people in the b-paper car loan business. There's not a single one that would refuse a cash payment on anything. The only caveat to that is that in some states acceptance of any kind of payment will negate repossesion proceedings. If this guy was so hehind on his payments that they had to repossess, my guess is that they didn't want to be strung along getting a few dollars here and there. They wanted it over and done with, and their truck back so they could cut their losses.

Heck, he would have been way better off if the truck HAD been stolen. Most high-risk lenders require some type of insurance on the loan (built into the payment). If the truck was stolen, they would have gotten their money and probably just walked away without another word.

The whole "shooting at the tires" thing is major BS. The guy knew the truck was getting repo'd. He lost it, grabbed a gun, and started shooting wildly. The repo agent's head just happened to be in the wrong place at the right time.

Brad
 
As much of a loser the defendant is, I'm not going to shed a tear over the repo man. I don't consider a person who sneaks around on another man's property after dark to be anything close to reputable businessman.
 
In the past, I've been offered repo jobs but just didn't feel right about it. Going onto another man's property, as Mr Butt metioned;) was my primary reason for the hesitation, but on occasion, folks fall into hard times and just can't make ends meet. Been there myself and I wouldn't have treated a repo man with a great deal of courtesy, if ya know what I mean.
Biker
 
He got a high interest loan because that's probably the only way he could get one (i.e. history of money management problems).
Doesn't sound right--how could he have offered to pay the balance with a credit card if he had no credit. Either he's thought his lies through very well or he's not lying. His story is internally consistent.
 
Well, there's repo men and repo men. I used to repossess furniture and appliances that people kept forgetting to make their monthly payments on. As you can't drive off on the sofa or the washing machine, I'd knock on the front door. Spent many a night in a person's driveway. Not only had they forgotten to pay their payments but when they saw me sitting there, they forgot to come home. Sorry, I'm hardheaded. After a while, they realized that they had a choice: either come home when I'm there or never come home again. To date, the closest I've come to shooting anyone occurred in their own home when they thought that they could prevent repossession by assaulting me. Fortunately they all ceased their assault when they realized that the 'victim' was in the process of drawing a handgun.
 
I repossessed cars for a time in the early 80's. I worked for a company that contracted with various local banks, credit unions, and financing companies.

After reading the article, it seems to me that this particular "repo man" was a loose cannon. If we are to believe the shooter, the repo man sneaked onto the property dressed in camo armed with a pistol! Great plan - if you're looking to get shot.

When I did it, we went to the person's door (never in the middle of the night) with paperwork and told them we were there to get the car. At that point, the car no longer belonged to them and they knew it.

Biker, in my case it wasn't a matter of folks havin' some lean months and missing a payment. Cars weren't repossessed unless the borrower was over 90 days past due and refused to respond to phone calls and letters from the financing institution.

All you had to do to avoid repossession was to return a phone call, provide an explanation, and arrange to make (at least partial) payments. The finance company didn't want the car. I live in Mass - they don't do title loans here. The cars that were being repossessed were usually late model used cars. Most of the time the loan was worth more than the car. The last thing a financing company wanted was to take ownership of a wreck. This is just a personal observation, but most of the deadbeats' cars were beat up, and poorly maintained and cared for.

We'd knock on the door, show them the paperwork, tell them why we were there, and give them an opportunity to get their stuff out of the car. They knew we were coming, and they'd had numerous chances to make things right long before we got there. I never once felt guilty taking a car from somebody.
 
I'm sure, Eddie. Just something I'd have a hard time doing. Bouncing? No problem. The battle lines were clear and drawn, so to speak. BG work? Not a problem. Stay away and things are fine.
Guess I'm a simple man - I like things black and white when I can find 'em that way.:)
Biker
 
EddieC- thanks for the explanation, what you said was pretty much how I imagined reposessions are supposed to work. I had 2 college roommates who had their vehicles repo'd, bot times the they were met at the door in broad day light and told what was happening. In both those cases the roomies deserved it, one of them still owes me money from 12 or 13 years ago. :banghead: One of the vehicles was so badly trashed and of such little value before the repo job, that I think the lending agency lost more money ordering the repo than if they had let it slide.:scrutiny:
 
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He got a high interest loan because that's probably the only way he could get one (i.e. history of money management problems).

Doesn't sound right--how could he have offered to pay the balance with a credit card if he had no credit. Either he's thought his lies through very well or he's not lying. His story is internally consistent.
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Interesting ... I thought if the guy paid the car off with a credit card, he would be free and clear. It is my understanding that a credit card is unsecured, unlike an auto loan. On a bankrupcy the credit card debt would be eliminated, whereas the auto loan would not be.

What does a credit card company do if a consumer files for bankrupcy a week after paying off a major debt ?
 
Why are people so against the shooter? If the shooter had shot a real theif instead of a repo man then everyone would be for the shooter. If someone is trying to take my car, I am going to shoot back and defend myself and property. Its stupid that the country has become so concerned with liability than you cannot protect what is yours!
 
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Why are people so against the shooter?

he shot at a "tire" and hit the repo man in the head, he was looking to kill the repo guy because he "had" to get a new car and not a 10 year old car that he could afford.
If someone is trying to take my car, I am going to shoot back and defend myself and property.

then you better have a really good lawyer because your going to need him, I wish we could just shoot horse theives like we used to but unless you reside in
texas you can't.
Its stupid that the country has become so concerned with liability than you cannot protect what is yours!

I agree, so the bank has a right to shoot the guy who didn't pay for his car??:D
 
It doesn't matter that the somebody is 90 days or later on their car payment. It doesn't matter that they're getting bills in the mail saying they are past due. It doesn't even matter that they're getting phone calls from collectors wanting the car back.

That person taking the car can't possibly be a repo man, it must be a thief

You are right. It does not matter. This is especially true when you are acting like a thief.

The repo man knows there are risks and chooses to do his job anyway that is in a manner where he can be easily taken for a burglar
 
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