Man shoots motorcyclist in "self defense"

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This guy hasn't got a leg to stand on it seems. Bad representative for the RKBA community...Came across this on a motorcycle board I frequent. Some people I know knew the rider. ATL, GA area..

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/met...yclist_0227.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

Bogart — A man is facing a murder charge after authorities say he shot and killed a motorcyclist who followed his daughters home from a department store.

Richard Harold Gear, 45, claimed he was acting in self-defense when he shot Bryan Joseph Mough around 6:45 p.m. Monday as Mough drove his motorcycle past Gear's house, Oconee County Sheriff Scott Berry said.

The daughters, ages 17 and 19, had called their father on a cell phone to tell him they were being followed, Berry said. As they arrived home, Gear was waiting at the end of his driveway with a pistol, Berry said.

Mough, 21, drove past the house, turned around and made another pass. Gear fired his .40-caliber semiautomatic gun two or three times, hitting Mough once in the back, Berry said.

Gear called 911 after the shooting, as did neighbors, and sheriff's deputies arrested Gear on a murder charge, Berry said.

"He made an unspecified claim of self-defense," Berry said.

Mough was pronounced dead at a hospital.

Gear's daughters and Mough apparently left the parking lot of a Target in nearby Athens around the same time Monday evening, Berry said. Tempers flared as the drivers headed west toward Bogart.

Gear's daughters told investigators Mough cut them off, they made obscene gestures at him and Mough ran into their car at one point, Sheriff Berry said.

"There is evidence of a collision between Mough's motorcycle and the vehicle operated by Gear's daughters," Berry said, adding authorities do not yet know who initiated contact.

"We've got questions about how it happened," he said.

Investigators went to Target for witnesses and looked at surveillance videos but found nothing to indicate Mough met the girls inside the store or in the parking lot, Berry said.
 
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I agree. There are not many details about what exactly was happening that caused the guy to shoot him. They present the picture that he was just driving by the house on the road. I sort of find that hard to believe.


The way they present it, the motorcycle as a vehicle appears to be irrelevant.
 
Based on what info is there, the guy on the bike does sound like a creep. Who follows teenage girls home? Definitely would put me into defense mode too.

OTOH, pre-emptively shooting an unarmed creep in the back in the middle of the street doesn't seem like quite the right way to resolve the situation either, especially when the shooter has to explain his actions to the judge/jury.

Too bad those girls didn't remember that a car is an incredibly deadly instrument when going up against a motorcycle. Let the bike get right on your bumper, and activate your ABS. Creep on bike eats a bumper sandwich followed by a compound-fracture dessert.
 
There could've been an accident and the biker tried to get the attention of the girls to swap insurance.
 
Too bad those girls didn't remember that a car is an incredibly deadly instrument when going up against a motorcycle. Let the bike get right on your bumper, and activate your ABS. Creep on bike eats a bumper sandwich followed by a compound-fracture dessert.
...and that is the reason why I punch mirrors off of cars that decide to play games with my life while on my bike.
 
...and that is the reason why I punch mirrors off of cars that decide to play games with my life while on my bike.

+1

Brake check me or make some other deliberate @$$hole manuever that endangers me when I'm riding, and I'll crater your door panel as I fly by.
 
Wow, y'all are wonderful representatives of the motorcycle riding community. Based on your input, the guy was probably justified. :)
 
they say he 'ran into their car on his m/c'? at any speed the biker would have gone down very likely. and 'he cut them off' dangerous manuever on a m/c. sounds fishy to me.
It was just a possible scenario. We're getting one side of the story. We won't get the other because an irresponsible gun owner decides to kill him. It's legal owners with that itchy trigger finger that ruins ownership for the rest of us.

Wow, y'all are wonderful representatives of the motorcycle riding community.
Just as jakeswens is a great representative for ignorant automobile drivers :)
 
I may be biased because I ride, but sounds like there was an accident and two scared girls called their daddy and ran home. Also would seem that daddy overeacted.
 
Look, I used to ride a bike too, have the pins and plate in my elbow to prove it, and I'm not suggesting open war on riders. Jeez!

What I was saying is that when you're in a car being menaced by a biker, you have a two-ton steel advantage that you can use!

Had no idea that this was going to start a feud.
 
Based on probability I am going to assume the young girls in thier car did something that the guy on the bike was upset about with thier vehicle.
They may have done it accidentaly, or maybe have further caused trouble intentionaly. So they could have accidentaly almost ran him over or killed him while doing something else. Or intentionaly cut him off, made a threatening motion to run him off the road (an assault with a deadly weapon, or aggrivated assault, a serious violent felony), yelled insults etc..I have seen plenty of young girls behind the wheel "letting thier hair down" so to speak and being quite wild as they generaly feel a bit more bold behind the wheel of a vehicle.

Regardless of the reason, the person on a motorcycle began to follow them. They suddenly got the "oh Sh--" feeling and proceeded to call daddy. Perhaps rightly so as the man may or may not have presented a threat. Losing someone on a motorcycle especialy if they keep thier distance is nearly impossible in a car on most city streets.
Daddy seeing himself coming to the rescue of his daughter lost his head and ran out to meet the guy following his daughter home. At this point everything is fine. Motorcycle guy is following person for whatever reason, technicaly not breaking any law yet, dad is determined to see his daughter comes to no harm, presumably doing nothing illegal yet.
Both men at this point likely legal.
He then however proceeds to shoot a guy on a motorcycle, including when he was driving in the opposite direction hitting him in the back.

Both the guy on the bike and the dad with the gun sound like hotheads. Perhaps both had a justified reason to be upset. The guy at his home however was not in immediate danger and should have gone inside his home with the girls and called the police. He however wanted to stay outside and be seen as the hero in front of his daughters, not backing out of an escalating situation.
If the man on the bike had a legit reason for being there he could then proceed to call the police with an address and explain the situation. If he did not have a legit reason he would have either left or attempted to cause trouble with them in thier home at which point self defense by the home owner would be legitimate.

As it turned out though it sounds like daddy will spend the rest of his life raising his daughters from a cell. If one of the girls is to blame for the initial incident she can also live with that and the murder of a man on her conscience if not face charges as well.
 
Cagers simply do not pay attention between cell phones and make up or even a Big Mac. People think that they are immune to the outside world when they get behind the wheel. Unless they are a riders themselves cagers will never understand the constant danger they put riders in. I seriously doubt the rider intentionally hit their car and was more than likely a victim of teenagers simply not paying attention. If there was contact between the vehicles he was right to try to get their information. Unless the rider was trying to run the father down he had absolutely zero justification. He should be charged for murder and his daughters should catch some of it to.
 
Wow, y'all are wonderful representatives of the motorcycle riding community. Based on your input, the guy was probably justified

If you deliberately attempt to injure a motorcyclist, you most certainly deserve a scar on your vehicle's sheet metal that reminds you to respect our place on the road.

We're not talking about chasing someone down because they did some bonehead thing-we deal with near misses every day from so many drivers who simply do not pay attention to bikes. What we're talking about are those folks who seem bent on getting bikers killed simply because they don't like us. And yes, there most certainly are folks out there with a bitter hatred of motorcyclists:

and thats why some folks consider shooting folks off bikes
 
yup, punch mirrors off cars---they come to close to me on my bike, in a dangerous life threatening manor, and i'd do it too.

As far as him running into their car------It sounds more like the other way around, daddy's little girl calls and says "he hit our car and he's following us now!".....was more likely 2 teenage girls that clipped HIS bike due to bad driving, and had to make up an excuse to why the motorcycle man was going to follow them home and probably threaten to sue for a hit-and-run.

this isn't a truth, it's just what it sounds like to me. solely an opinion, even if it may be a bit of a stretch ><
 
The article paints a picture of a road rage type confrontation. The source is the two teenage girls which is I am sure is not 100%. However, the guy followed them all the way home and instead of stopping in the street and talking, he made a few passes. I think I still agree with the first post. There really isn't any good way to judge this one way or other without more to go on. We have all seen too many articles that left out critical facts.
 
the real question is, what do you WANT to hear?

it is the MEDIA, after all...
 
ever seen what happends when some one trys to knock you mirror off and failed? Lets just say going underneath the rear wheels of a 1 ton truck is not pretty... neither is being arrested after losing limbs when you get out of the hospitol...
I was riding shot gun when it happend... All over some BS about a lane change... moral of the story... let it go and don't ride in some ones blind spot...

Also remember... you fook some ones car up... you are going to go to jail.
 
i had a quater million miles on 2 wheels when most of ya were on big wheels and i see a lotta whuffos out there nowadays who ain't too bright. gonna wait till some real facts come out before i decide on this one. but i can tell you one thing following someones daughters home ain't too smart. someone did that to my lil sis about 35 years ago and he got his car all shot up. he got out and ran but back then things were different cops never even charged me i was still a juvenile so it wasn't worth it
 
Creep on bike eats a bumper sandwich followed by a compound-fracture dessert.

Bike against a car, couldn't they just drive to or call the police station instead of possibly killing someone for following them?

Sounds like you might have had a mirror knocked off or gotten the ball peen hammer special.
 
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