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A fellow Marine and gun owner needs our help.

Veteran pleads not guilty to 1st SAFE Act violation

Benjamin M. Wassell is more than just the state’s first defendant accused of illegal weapon sales under its tough new gun control law.

He’s an Iraq War hero who, despite a traumatic brain injury from an improvised explosive device that destroyed his vehicle back in 2006, was able to lead other wounded Marines through a minefield to safety, according to loved ones and military records.

The 32-year-old Silver Creek man, who family members say would still be in the Marines had he not been severely injured, is also a devoted husband and father of two young children.

But Wednesday morning in Hanover Town Court, Wassell found himself at the center of the fierce debate spawned by the New York SAFE Act, adopted in response to the slaughter of Connecticut schoolchildren late last year.

Dressed in a dark suit, the hulking man, a towering 6 feet, 5 inches, his hair closely cropped, sat by his wife, who held their 4-month-old son, as more than 75 people, most of them supporters, crowded the courtroom.

“I can’t speak about the case,” Wassell told a reporter.

It didn’t matter.

Others were more than willing to tell the story of Ben Wassell, starting off by saying he was unfairly arrested in an undercover State Police operation based on what his supporters say is an unjust law.

“My son served two terms in Iraq and was wounded twice. He was a sergeant in the Marines. He’s a good man. He’ll do anything for anybody. What they’re doing to him is very unfair,” Dianne Wassell said.

Patrick Hurley, his father-in-law, said that it is hard for Wassell to accept that he is now on the other side of the law.

“This is tearing him up. He’s very patriotic. He has no criminal record,” Hurley said.

Authorities, though, say Wassell flouted the new law by taking advantage of an increased demand for the banned assault-style weapons by adding features to make the two rifles he sold illegal and thereby increase their value.

He is accused of selling a Del-Ton AR-15 rifle, 299 rounds of ammunition and six large-capacity clips for $1,900 on Jan. 24, nine days after the SAFE Act was passed. That gun had an illegal pistol grip, telescoping butt and bayonet mount. On Feb. 24, he allegedly sold an Armalite AR-10 Magnum semiautomatic rifle with 21 rounds of ammunition for $2,600. That gun had a pistol grip.

Rest of the article here: http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130320/CITYANDREGION/130329919/1010

Here is the link to donate to Benjamin Wassell's defense fund.
http://www.gofundme.com/2clmcw

When I found the link and went to donate, I gave one hundred bucks to set the minimum standard that I know that every Marine will match or exceed. For the rest of you I don't expect much but i am asking you to, please, do what you can. This is one of them times where we need to stand up and actually do something, rather than just yak about it.
 
Pardon me for sounding hard-hearted, but this is what happens to people who don't pay attention to what's going on in their immediate vicinity. That nasty law got plenty of publicity in every media outlet known to mankind.
 
Everyone's thinking it, but nobody's saying it.

Stories like these will slowly but surely become the norm; and then it won't anymore.
 
Pardon me for sounding hard-hearted, but this is what happens to people who don't pay attention to what's going on in their immediate vicinity. That nasty law got plenty of publicity in every media outlet known to mankind.

Just because something is illegal, doesn't make it wrong. I'm pretty sure this gentleman was well aware of the law at the time of the sales.

IMO the SAFE act and its relatives should be flouted by any and all Constitutionally minded citizens.

The article mentions that the undercover officer told the defendant that he had a felony domestic violence conviction. If true, this is where my heartburn lies.

And I believe the AR-10 Magnum was a short lived rifle chambered in .300 Rem. SAUM
 
Even if the defendant had not had a prior domestic-violence conviction, I'm surprised the state had not yet tried to make him a "prohibited person" on the mental health platform, based on his TBI sustained in Iraq.
 
Even if the defendant had not had a prior domestic-violence conviction, I'm surprised the state had not yet tried to make him a "prohibited person" on the mental health platform, based on his TBI sustained in Iraq.

The defendant did not have DV conviction. The undercover LEO who bought the gun from him reportedly told the defendant before the sale that he had a felony DV conviction.

Keep in mind that felony DV in most states comes after 3 or more misdemeanor convictions, or the assault was so bad that it is considered maiming or malicious wounding.
 
Pardon me for sounding hard-hearted, but this is what happens to people who don't pay attention to what's going on in their immediate vicinity. That nasty law got plenty of publicity in every media outlet known to mankind.
So just because this failure piece of legislation actually passed ("got rammed through" would be a more accurate description) means we should all just shut up and abide by it? Why? Because it's "the law" now?
Screw that.
 
Actually Nickel...if New York's prior AWB was anything like CT's current, it would have been illegal before. It says it had a pistol grip, telescoping stock, and bayonet lug...which is 3/5 bad features if it takes a detachable magazine (Which I assume it does) I highly doubt NY allowed 3 features before. Still a bad law, but it sounds like it was illegal whether or not the new laws were passed.
 
"means we should all just shut up and abide by it?"

I didn't see anybody suggest shutting up. You can certainly fight to overturn a new law, but meanwhile if you break the law you can't claim to be surprised if you end up in court.
 
So just because this failure piece of legislation actually passed ("got rammed through" would be a more accurate description) means we should all just shut up and abide by it?

Should we shut up? Absolutely not.
As far as abiding by it, that's up to the individual. However, if you choose not to abide by it, there will be fallout. That's just common sense. If you're not willing to pay the band, don't dance. At least not where everyone can see you.
I think that we're over taxed in this country, but I pay them anyway, because if I don't, it's a felony. If I said, "Screw it" and stopped paying them, it wouldn't come as a big shock when I ended up being arrested.
 
Lee harvey Oswald was in the Marines too. I dont see what that has to do with anything.
The guy knowingly violated the law and attempted to make money off of it. He now finds himself in court and facing the penalties for what he did.
While the law is bad law, it is the law. And anyone violating it will find himself in a similar predicament. So if people want to practice civil disobedience, fine. But be prepared to pay the consequences.
 
TIP OF THE DAY: When a person wants to buy a gun from you and volunteers that he is a convicted felon, he is a police officer planning on arresting you after you sell him the gun.

People who actually have felony convictions and try to buy guns keep the information about their past felonies a secret.
 
The features added to the rifle and/ or the capacity of the magazines is, in my mind, no more relevant to the case than is his military service. Anyone who does in fact sell firearms and ammunition to someone they have reason to believe was guilty of felony domestic violence deserves what they get.
 
State police, in their complaint, pointed out that Wassell went through with the second sale even though the undercover officer told him he had a felony domestic violence conviction.

Sorry but you lost me at this point. I'm not a fan of New York's "assault weapons" laws and I do feel that they should be challeneged. But selling a gun to somebody who's told you he can't legally buy one because he has a conviction for felony DV is inexcusable in my book.
 
Lots of people in NY don't know there is a $500 reward for anonymous tips that lead to an arrest. I don't like the anonymous part. People will abuse the system for many reasons. I feel for the Marine but he had to know undercover officers were out trying to make arrests. People get arrested at gun shows here in NC selling guns to undercover officers. I am quite sure the same thing has been going on in NY.

People think that this isn't enough information to find anyone. Hitler had a ratio of 1 snitch for every 2000 people. Look what he accomplished with that number of snitches.
 
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