MD House AWB PRDERED out of Committee

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MD House AWB ORDERED out of Committee

Date: 3/22/2004 12:59:29 -0500
From: "John H. Josselyn" <[email protected]>
To: AGC_Net <[email protected]>
Subject: UPDATE HB 1298 Assault Weapons Ban of 2004

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Last weekend Roy Tarbutton of the MSRPA and I have received reports
from
several sources that House Speaker Michael Busch has instructed House
Judiciary Committee Chairman Joseph Vallario to move HB 1298 "Assault
Weapons Ban of 2004" out of committee.

Since that time Roy and I have been working to confirm the validity
of
these reports. Roy Tarbutton and I now agree that the reports are
sufficiently credible that we must launch an intense lobbying effort
directed at Speaker Busch and Chairman Vallario.

Focus calls, letters and e-mails on the following:
(remember to be polite, courteous and non threatening when you call)

Tell them you oppose the gun ban in any form, including a state
version
of the federal ban.
(Speaker Busch has expressed support for a state version of the
federal
ban.)

MICHAEL ERIN BUSCH, Speaker of House of Delegates
Democrat, District 30, Anne Arundel County
<http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/mdmanual/36loc/an/html/an.html>
;

State House, H-101
Annapolis, MD 21401 - 1991
(410) 841-3800, (301) 858-3800
1-800-492-7122, ext. 3800 (toll free)
e-mail: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
fax: (410) 841-3880, (301) 858-3880

JOSEPH F. VALLARIO, JR., Chairman, House Judiciary Committee
Democrat, District 27A, Calvert
<http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/mdmanual/36loc/cal/html/cal.htm
l>;
& Prince George's
<http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/mdmanual/36loc/pg/html/pg.html>
;
Counties

Lowe House Office Building, Room 121
84 College Ave.
Annapolis, MD 21401 - 1991
(410) 841-3488, (301) 858-3488
1-800-492-7122, ext. 3488 (toll free)
Note: Delegate Vallario does not have email
fax: (410) 841-3850, (301) 858-3850

Also, contact your delegate(s) and voice your opposition to SB 1298.

Contact info for delegates:
http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/mdmanual/06hse/html/hseal.html

edited for typo in heading.
 
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My letter to Mr. Busch......






Mr. Speaker,

I am writing to you to voice my opposition to any plan to move HB1298 out of committee to a vote in the full house of delegates.

On March 16, the law abiding citizens of Maryland stood up to say that they rejected the notion of further erosion of their constitutional rights, which HB1298 would do.

The professional lobbyists representing Ceasefire MD and the Brady Campaign could not withstand scrutiny in the light of truth presented by the Maryland State Police and individuals who testified before the committee.

Your political maneuvering is a blatant affront to the will of the people of Maryland who have made it clear that they do not support HB1298.

Please move your legislative efforts on to crime control efforts rather than those that only control law-abiding citizens.
 
Ok, here is my letter to Delegate Busch:

Delegate Busch,
I was at the hearing with my two young sons on March 16th and testified in opposition to HB 1298. At the hearing, I urged you and the other members of the House of Delegates to please research this issue for yourselves and I hope you have had a chance to do that.

I live in Anne Arundel county and I follow closely the way my elected officials handle matters which are important to me. I realize, however, that in order for the system to work properly, you have a duty to listen to what your constituents want. I think it was very clear at the hearing on the 16th and well as the Senate hearing back in February that the people of Maryland have spoken loud and clear in opposition to this ban. If there were so many people who want this ban to happen, where were they on both days? They simply weren't there and they won't be there to back you up at election time either.

I ask you to please stand up for what the people who elected you want and do not push for HB 1298 any further. Thank you for your time and consideration.
 
To the chairman of the committee in question:



Dear Delegate Vallario,

I am writing to you to voice my opposition to any plan to move HB1298 out of committee to a vote in the full house of delegates.

On March 16, I watched you run a heated and contentious hearing in a fair and even handed manner. In the spirit of continuing that fair treatment, I implore you to resist any attempts to move HB1298 beyond the committee stage.

The proponents of this bill claim to represent the majority of Marylanders, yet when the actual numbers are seen in the debate before the committees in both the House and Senate, the opponents of the bill are clearly in the majority. Despite the claims by the professional lobbyists of Ceasefire MD and the Brady Campaign, they are not a grassroots movement. In fact, it is the law-abiding citizens of Maryland who are a grassroots movement of individuals tired of having their individual rights curtailed in the name of crime prevention.

Sir, the anti-gun lobbyists present alleged facts that can not withstand the light of scrutiny. The Maryland State Police confirm that these so-called assault weapons are not a measurable factor in the commission of crimes in this state. The Department of Justice and FBI patently refute Leah Barrett's drone of "1 in 5" police officers killed by assault weapons.

Please put this ill-conceived bill to rest so that the legislature can move forward with meaningful crime control measures that do not infringe upon the lawful citizenry of Maryland.
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Earlier today I received an email about the same thing from NRA-ILA about the vote taking place sometime this week.

After reading this email I contacted Del.Donald Dwyer's (Dist 31)office and I had a chance to speak with one of his aides JERED FAIRES this afternoon. I asked him if the info in the NRA email was accurate and he said "from what info we have right now it is true". He could not give me an exact date or time.

He did suggest that we continue our phone calls to our delegates in general and the Judiciary Commission in particular. Mr.Faires also said that those opposed to HB1298 are trying hard to keep it from "seeing the light of day".

To those unfamilar with Del.Dwyer he is the sponsor of HB859 concealed carry.

Posted below you will find contact numbers for the Judiciary Committee courtesy of Mr.Jered Faires.



Approved by house speaker:

Joseph F.Vallario Jr. Chairman 410-841-3488 ~~~301-858-3488
Anthony G. Brown Vice-Chairman 410-841-3707~~~301-858-3707


Carmen Amedori 410-841-3371
Curtis S. (Curt) Anderson 410-841-3291
Jill P. Carter 410-841-3283
Kathleen M. Dumais 410-841-3052
Donald H. Dwyer Jr. 410-841-3047
Ana Sol Gutierrez 410-841-3181
W. Louis Hennessy 301-858-3247
Darryl A. Kelley 410-841-3212
Kevin Kelly 410-841-3404
Susan C. Lee 410-841-3019
Susan K. McComas 410-841-3289
Herbert H. McMillan 410-841-3439
Pauline H. Menes 410-841-3114
Anthony J. O'Donnel 410-841-3314
Carol S. Petzold 410-841-3001
Neil F. Quinter 410-841-3246 Sponsor of HB1298
Christopher B. Shank 410-841-3447
Luiz R.S. Simmons 410-841-3037
Theodore J. Sophocleus 410-841-3233
Robert A. Zirkin 410-841-3342


To see where your delegates stand on RKBA issues please go here:

www.mcrkba.org/MDLegislature.html



HTH

Marty
aka-CrazyIrishman
 
Norton & Girlwithagun,


WOW--ya'all sure know how to write to get someone's attention! If our elected officials in Annapolis can't understand what you've written (well written at that) then we have some serious problems!
 
Sorry...I'm a poor writer so I'll not embarrass myself by posting my email.

Here's the reply from Mr. Busch:

------------------------------------------------

I appreciate hearing from you and wanted to immediately let you know your
e-mail was received. Given the volume of e-mail I get, it may take some
time to provide a proper response. For scheduling or, if you need immediate
attention, please call my office at 410-841-3800.

Once again, thank you for contacting me. I appreciate your input.

Sincerely,

Michael E. Busch
Speaker
Maryland House of Delegates

-----------------------------------------------


Thank God for automated email responders! I would have been waiting up all night for this response!

As always I urge EVERYBODY to send email, snailmail and faxes, and to make the phone calls.
 
Norton & Girlwithagun,


WOW--ya'all sure know how to write to get someone's attention! If our elected officials in Annapolis can't understand what you've written (well written at that) then we have some serious problems!
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LOL...I guess all of that time spent writing my master's thesis wasn't wasted after all:p
 
I got the same reply from Busch, i.e. form letter. Don Dwyer replied with an actual brief note (not a form letter), and from my Del. Barbra Frush a semi form letter:

Thank you for sharing your views about gun control legislation in Maryland. I appreciate hearing the views of constituents about matters that are important to them.

When I have the opportunity to consider legislation in this area, I will keep your views in mind.

Thank you for the opportunity to be of service. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance with this or other issues.

Delegate Barbara Frush

Here is the kicker: Pauline Menes, who is also one of my delegates and stated John Gianetti (The senator from my district) committed political suicide for voting no against the Senate version. She went on to say that Gianetti was not representing his constituants. Funny, I get replies from everyone of them her. Funnier still is that this woman has been in office since 1965. I think she is still stuck there.
 
From the WBAL website:

Proposed Assault Weapons Ban Appears Doomed

POSTED: 6:43 am EST March 23, 2004

ANNAPOLIS, Md. -- A proposed state ban on assault weapons appears doomed this year in Annapolis.

Gov. Robert Ehrlich opposes the bill, and a Senate committee is poised to reject it by a single vote. What may be the only hope for Sen. Robert Garagiola, the bill's sponsor, would be to attach the weapons ban with a tax bill he has recently introduced.

The Baltimore Sun reported Garagiola's other measure would impose a 10 percent tax on the sale of assault weapons in the state.

If the assault weapons ban doesn't pass, firearms outlawed by the expiring federal ban could go back on the market in Maryland this fall.

Ehrlich opposes the ban, and lobbied Sen. John Giannetti of Prince George's County against it -- meaning members of the Senate Judiciary Committee are 6-5 against the measure.

Stay with TheWBALChannel.com and 11 News for the latest political updates.
 
My first post.

I saw the same news clip this morning on WBAL preceded by someone shooting a fully automatic uzi. Since there is no way to get to the news media to stop this manipulation of the masses perhaps we can reach the sponsors. I haven’t researched the telephone numbers of the local dealers but that is my next step.

my letter to WBAL

I was disappointed to see your reporting of the demise of the alleged Maryland Assault Weapon ban. This was shown with a picture of a fully automatic uzi being fired.
This ban has nothing to do with fully automatic weapons and everything to do with the banning of semiautomatic rifles that have been uses in America for over a hundred years. Machine guns have been banned since 1934.

You know that and your staff know it. You sir are engaging in deceptive propaganda to convince people that somehow machine guns are going to be on our streets. Since we cannot alter your stance perhaps we can do so by writing your sponsors for that segment.
Hundi
Golden Corral
Empire Carpet
Gladhill Furniture


http://www.thewbalchannel.com/index.html
 
Welcome to THR, and thans for your support.

Check earlier in this thread and many others to see what Delegates and Senators to send email to. We've been pounding these guys for months now and it looks like it's having an effect.


Great letter to the tv station too....
 
Welcome molonlabe. Glad to have another Marylander.

WBAL isn't the only one pulling that stuff. At the House hearing on the 16th one of the anti's did the same thing. Used a video clip with an automatic weapon and claimed it was a semi-auto. I couldn't see the clip, but she was called on it by Sandy Abrams, who apparantly could see it. I did try moving my trigger finger as fast as the rounds were going off and couldn't get close. Not that I'm the most coordinated shooter in the world.
 
the clip they showed could of been a bump firing semi auto AR15
Quinter did not state any context for the clip that he showed

it was faster than 1 shot per second

i wonder if they submitted the video as testimony and were required to footnote the source
 
Does anyone know who the "contact" people are at the different TV stations?? Maybe we can get a mass emailing or phone call campaign going!

If we as a group of VOTERS, CONSUMERS, TAX PAYERS, and GUN OWNERS can atleast get the "media morons" to conduct a more balanced and fair way of reporting then WE WILL HAVE WON a VICTORY!

I know that its an uphill battle (all the way)but it can be done! Its a shame we can't buy a spot on local TV to educate the sheeple about the differences between FULL & SEMI AUTO! At the same time we wouold be letting the liars at VPC,HCI,The Brady Bunch,and the Million Moron's that LYING and DECEIT won't be tolerated anymore!

Oh,GEEZ,I almost forgot! What are the politicians gonna do when they can't lie,cheat, ETC.........


What do y'all think about going after the media!


Maybe we can get the NRA to have a short pro-gun infomercial broadcast nationwide when people WILL BE AWAKE during the day and NOT have it stuck on some unknown cable channel at 4:00 am .


molonlabe,

Welcome to the board! Do you remember who was reporting on the story with the UZI?
 
WBAL AM Radio is operated and managed by the same folks as WBAL TV. Ron Smith is the afternoon talk guy on WBAL radio and claims to be Pro 2A. He can be reached at [email protected], enough emails to him might just get John Lott back on his show (he has done numberous shows with Mr. Smith) to discuss this proposed ban especially if it goes to the floor.
 
Does anyone have cable ISP? I didn't have time to download this video earlier.Maybe I can take a peek at it later since I'm stuck with "dialup".


riffraff,

If we can get a mailing campaign going they(media)will hear our side even if they don't care to. I know if I was being deluged with letters or overwhelmed with emails it wouold cause me to pay attention!

Maybe with some luck we just "might" find a sympathetic ear to hear us out and plead our case.

May I suggest that any correspondence with the media be :

1) 100% Factual- this leaves no room for them to dispute .

2) Done in a courteous manner--- it helps put to rest the myth that gun owners are "nothing but uneducated rednecks and trailer trash"!

We have to try and attempt to educate the media.I know its a tall order but it will be worth it IMHO. Feel free to add to the above list. Its just a couple of ideas I had for dealing with stubborn people. I'm sure I missed a few things.



CI
 
In response to CrazyIrishman request as to who was reporting the news. I'm sorry but I didn't note that. I really didn't think it was relevant as I thought the announcers simply reported canned prepared news items. I will pay more attention to that. I get up at 5:30 in the morning and always turn on the news and was greeted with a fully auto UZI then the news announcement. I did get the sponsors because I intend to write them this weekend.

I have received by mail a response to a previous letter sent to Senator Sarbanes regarding the MD and National AW Ban where he reiterated that he believes these weapons are for killing large numbers of people and should not be in civilian hands and he supports the ban.
 
molonlabe,

Thats OK! If you happen to see it again AND you are coherent (maybe not at 5:30-LOL) try to write it down "if possible". Sometimes I'll see something on the news and i'll go by so fast you almost don't have time to do anything. Make sure you've had your coffee first!


Don't worry,we'll figure out how to get them to listen.

How many have heard the old adage "the squeaky wheel gets the grease"?

If we can just take a few minutes here and there to call,write, or email I can't see how we could miss getting through to 'em.
 
Gun Grabbers In Maryland Are At It Again

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org

Wednesday, March 24, 2004


Well, the bad guys never give up.

With your help, we have been able to stymie the passage of a
semi-auto ban in the Maryland Senate. But now, anti-gun House
Speaker Michael Busch is reportedly pushing delegates to move a house
version of the ban (HB 1298) out of committee and onto the floor.

It is time to act quickly and urge your delegates to oppose this
dangerous legislation.

It is time to tell the House of Delegates that gun bans don't disarm
criminals -- just have them look at Washington, D.C. After 25 years
of living under a draconian gun ban, the residents of that city are
LESS safe today than they were before the ban was enacted.

Perhaps even the Fraternal Order of Police and the Maryland State
Police are coming to understand this, as they both announced their
opposition to similar legislation in the Senate.


ACTION: Contact your state delegate(s). Urge them to oppose the
unconstitutional gun ban contained in Maryland House Bill 1298.
Please make your contacts today. A House roster and pre-written
message are provided below. If you don't know your district, go to
http://www.mdelect.net/lookup.asp to look it up using your zip code.


----- Pre-written message -----

Dear Delegate:

I strongly urge you to oppose HB 1298 -- legislation banning scores
of semi-automatic firearms.

Gun bans have completely failed to curb crime in this country -- just
look at Washington, D.C. After 25 years of living under a draconian
gun ban, the residents of that city are LESS safe today than they
were before the ban was enacted.

Gun bans have not only endangered innocent lives, by taking away the
means of self-defense, they have also proven to be quite costly
politically. President Clinton, who signed the federal ban into law,
later complained about this very fact.

In his State of the Union message (1995), President Clinton told
Congress that "I don't think it's a secret to anybody in this room
that several members of the last Congress who voted for [the
semi-auto ban] aren't here tonight because they voted for it.... [A]
lot of people laid down their seats in Congress."

It's no secret that there are many single-issue voters who will cross
party lines to oppose gun control candidates. Even after the most
recent presidential election, Vice-Presidential candidate Joe
Lieberman lamented to USA Today in 2001 that Democrats "lost a number
of [pro-gun] voters who on almost every other issue realized they'd
be better off with Al Gore."

I think it's worth noting that Governor Bob Ehrlich was elected to
office in the face of a strenuous advocacy campaign which opposed his
position on semi-autos. He won his race, while maintaining a more
positive Second Amendment stance than did his opponent.

The federal semi-auto ban was a total fraud, as the Bureau of Justice
Statistics has shown that violent criminals in this country only
carried so-called "military-type guns" in about one percent of
crimes... and this was before the federal ban was enacted.

Thus, this ban has done nothing to affect criminals, but has done a
lot to stir up political opposition. I hope you will remember the
political lessons from these last ten years and vote to uphold the
Constitutional rights of your constituents. Thank you.

Sincerely,


****************************

Maryland House of Delegates Roster

Dis Name Phone (410-841-XXXX) E-mail

1A EDWARDS 3435 [email protected]
1B KELLY 3404 no e-mail
1C MYERS 3435 [email protected]
2A McKEE 3447 [email protected]
2B SHANK 3447 [email protected]
2C DONOGHUE 3125 [email protected]
3A CLAGETT 3240 [email protected]
3A HOGAN 3240 [email protected]
3B WELDON 3240 [email protected]
4A BARTLETT 3107 [email protected]
4A STULL 3107 [email protected]
4B ELLIOTT 3107 [email protected]
5A AMEDORI 3371 [email protected]
5A STOCKSDALE 3371 [email protected]
5B KACH 3359 [email protected]
6 ARNICK 3458 [email protected]
6 MINNICK 3332 [email protected]
6 WEIR 3328 [email protected]
7 IMPALLARIA 3334 [email protected]
7 JENNINGS 3334 [email protected]
7 McDONOUGH 3334 [email protected]
8 BOTELER 3365 [email protected]
8 BROMWELL 3766 [email protected]
8 CLUSTER 3365 [email protected]
9A BATES 3556 [email protected]
9A MILLER 3556 [email protected]
9B KREBS 3200 [email protected]
10 BURNS 3350 [email protected]
10 JONES 3391 [email protected]
10 NATHAN-PULLIAM 3350 [email protected]
11 CARDIN 3342 [email protected]
11 MORHAIM 3342 [email protected]
11 ZIRKIN 3342 [email protected]
12A DEBOY 3328 [email protected]
12A MALONE 3378 [email protected]
12B BOBO 3205 [email protected]
13 PENDERGRASS 3205 [email protected]
13 QUINTER 3246 [email protected]
13 TURNER 3246 [email protected]
14 KAISER 3380 [email protected]
14 MONTGOMERY 3380 [email protected]
14 TAYLOR 3380 [email protected]
15 CRYOR 3090 [email protected]
15 DUMAIS 3052 [email protected]
15 FELDMAN 3052 [email protected]
16 BRONROTT 3019 [email protected]
16 GOLDWATER 3019 [email protected]
16 LEE 3019 [email protected]
17 BARVE 3464 [email protected]
17 GORDON 3744 [email protected]
17 SIMMONS 3037 [email protected]
18 GUTIERREZ 3181 [email protected]
18 HURSON 3770 [email protected]
18 MADALENO 3130 [email protected]
19 HELLER 3528 [email protected]
19 MANDEL 3045 [email protected]
19 PETZOLD 3001 [email protected]
20 FRANCHOT 3460 [email protected]
20 HIXSON 3469 [email protected]
20 MURRAY 3037 [email protected]
21 FRUSH 3114 [email protected]
21 MENES 3114 [email protected]
21 MOE 3114 [email protected]
22 GAINES 3058 [email protected]
22 HEALEY 3961 [email protected]
22 ROSS 3058 [email protected]
23A CONROY 3098 [email protected]
23A HUBBARD 3103 [email protected]
23B HOLMES 3098 [email protected]
24 BENSON 3065 [email protected]
24 HOWARD 3074 [email protected]
24 VAUGHN 3065 [email protected]
25 BROWN 3707 [email protected]
25 DAVIS 3519 [email protected]
25 GRIFFITH 3557 [email protected]
26 KELLEY 3212 [email protected]
26 PATTERSON 3210 [email protected]
26 TURNER 3212 [email protected]
27A PROCTOR 3083 [email protected]
27A VALLARIO 3488 no e-mail
27B OWINGS 3231 [email protected]
28 HENNESSY 3247 [email protected]
28 JAMESON 3337 [email protected]
28 MITCHELL 3325 [email protected]
29A WOOD 3170 [email protected]
29B BOHANAN 3227 [email protected]
29C O'DONNELL 3314 [email protected]
30 BUSCH 3800 [email protected]
30 CLAGETT 3211 [email protected]
30 McMILLAN 3439 [email protected]
31 CADDEN 3421 [email protected]
31 DWYER 3047 [email protected]
31 LEOPOLD 3206 [email protected]
32 GILLELAND 3233 [email protected]
32 LOVE 3233 [email protected]
32 SOPHOCLEUS 3233 [email protected]
33A BOSCHERT 3223 [email protected]
33A McCONKEY 3223 [email protected]
33B COSTA 3223 [email protected]
34A BOUTIN 3289 [email protected]
34A JAMES 3289 [email protected]
34B RUDOLPH 3444 [email protected]
35A GLASSMAN 3289 [email protected]
35A PARROTT 3289 [email protected]
35B McCOMAS 3289 [email protected]
36 SMIGIEL 3449 [email protected]
36 SOSSI 3449 [email protected]
36 WALKUP 3449 [email protected]
37A CANE 3427 [email protected]
37B ECKARDT 3343 [email protected]
37B HADDAWAY 3429 [email protected]
38A ELMORE 3433 [email protected]
38B BOZMAN 3431 [email protected]
38B CONWAY 3425 [email protected]
39 BARKLEY 3001 [email protected]
39 KING 3037 [email protected]
39 STERN 3045 [email protected]
40 FULTON 3030 no e-mail
40 GOODWIN 3030 [email protected]
40 MARRIOTT 3255 [email protected]
41 CARTER 3283 [email protected]
41 OAKS 3283 no e-mail
41 ROSENBERG 3297 [email protected]
42 AUMANN 3258 [email protected]
42 FRANK 3258 [email protected]
42 TRUESCHLER 3258 [email protected]
43 ANDERSON 3291 [email protected]
43 DOORY 3476 [email protected]
43 McINTOSH 3990 [email protected]
44 HAYNES 3263 [email protected]
44 KIRK 3263 no e-mail
44 PAIGE 3263 [email protected]
45 BRANCH 3257 [email protected]
45 DAVIS 3257 [email protected]
45 HARRISON 3486 [email protected]
46 HAMMEN 3772 [email protected]
46 KRYSIAK 3303 [email protected]
46 McHALE 3319 [email protected]
47 NIEMANN 3326 [email protected]
47 PARKER 3326 [email protected]
47 RAMIREZ 3326 [email protected]
 
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