Mexican soldiers crossing the U.S. border (merged multiple threads)

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It's probably faked video. There is no way President Bush would allow soldiers from a foreign country to enter this country. No sir - he'd send Dick Cheney down there to beat them back with his ream of deferments.
 
MSNBC doing a story right now re: Federales crossing the border. Incursion at 3PM TODAY confirmed by FBI!! Another damned good reason not to give up our guns, Sounds like we'll have to defend ourselves since Jorge's boys won't!
 
This is an invasion from a foreighn government.

Said government should be summarily invaded in return. Said country should be annexxed.

Civilian Border Security- kill any foreighn intruders -civilian or military- on sight.

Lets send a national guard unit over and start p[aying mexican civilians to fight against their governement. See how they like it.

Till then, why dont we just nuke ourselves and the rest of the world. Save us all alot of trouble.
 
So I'd like to see the Minutemen lock up an illegal

Can't do it. The Minutemen would be arrested for unlawfully detaining an individual. Hold them at bay with a gun and you go to jail for agrevated assault.

In fact, I asked 2 Border Patrol agents that same question. When I called them to come pick up a guy I found they gave me that exact answer. Said I had no right to detain or use a gun to detain them. They have rights. I said so do I. The right to protect this country from invasion. They said take it up with the DA.

:cuss:
 
Just out of curiosity, what do you suppose would happen if a civilian snipered a few of those Mexican soldiers while they were on the US side of the fence. Would "repelling invasion" be an effective defense in court?

(P.S. No, I have no intention of doing such a thing, I'm lots closer to the Canadian border than the Mexican)
 
in my opion yes it would be legit but i think the cops will have another oppion



something has to be dopne about this we cant just let them come onto our country like that but what re the odds that we dont see anymore about this
 
phoglund said:
Just out of curiosity, what do you suppose would happen if a civilian snipered a few of those Mexican soldiers while they were on the US side of the fence. Would "repelling invasion" be an effective defense in court?

(P.S. No, I have no intention of doing such a thing, I'm lots closer to the Canadian border than the Mexican)

Sounds like a homicide.:scrutiny:
 
Lennyjoe said:
Can't do it. The Minutemen would be arrested for unlawfully detaining an individual. Hold them at bay with a gun and you go to jail for agrevated assault.

In fact, I asked 2 Border Patrol agents that same question. When I called them to come pick up a guy I found they gave me that exact answer. Said I had no right to detain or use a gun to detain them. They have rights. I said so do I. The right to protect this country from invasion. They said take it up with the DA.

:cuss:

Sorry to hear about that, bud. What happened?
 
Border Update. A-10's anyone?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48485
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INVASION USA
Texas border standoff with Mexican military
Foreign personnel mount machine guns on U.S. side while helping drug smugglers

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Posted: January 24, 2006
2:50 p.m. Eastern



© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Texas law enforcement officers and Border Patrol agents engaged in an armed standoff with Mexican military personnel and drug smugglers just inside the United States along the Rio Grande yesterday afternoon.

According to a report in the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin of Ontario, Calif., both Texas law enforcement and the FBI stated nearly 30 American agents were part of the incident.


Chief Deputy Mike Doyal of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department told the paper Mexican military Humvees were towing what appeared to be thousands of pounds of marijuana across the border into the United States.

Border Patrol agents called for backup after seeing that Mexican Army troops had several mounted machine guns on the ground more than 200 yards inside the U.S. border – near Neely's Crossing, about 50 miles east of El Paso.

Doyal said Hudspeth County deputies and Texas Highway patrol officers arrived shortly afterward.

"It's been so bred into everyone not to start an international incident with Mexico that it's been going on for years," Doyal told the Bulletin. "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do? Who wants to pull the trigger first? Certainly not us."

Andrea Simmons, a spokeswoman with the FBI's El Paso office, confirmed the incident, saying, "Bad guys in three vehicles ended up on the border. People with Humvees, who appeared to be with the Mexican army, were involved with the three vehicles in getting them back across."

A Cadillac Escalade reportedly stolen from El Paso was captured, and U.S. officers found 1,477 pounds of marijuana inside.

The Mexican soldiers set fire to one of the Humvees stuck in the river, Doyal indicated.

Doyal emphasized Border Patrol agents and county deputies are not equipped for battle with military personnel.

"Our government has to do something," he told the Bulletin. "It's not the immigrants coming over for jobs we're worried about. It's the smugglers, Mexican military and the national threat to our borders that we're worried about."

Earlier this month, the Department of Homeland Security reported 216 incursions by Mexican soldiers during the past 10 years.


As WorldNetDaily reported, federal officials last week said Border Patrol and other federal agents working chronic drug-smuggling routes along the U.S. boundary with Mexico could be targets for retaliation by well-armed cartels from south of the Rio Grande, after a new enforcement push has dramatically curbed the importation of contraband.

"I do think we have to be prepared for the fact that as we press hard on these criminal organizations, some of them will want to fight back," Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told reporters.

Mexican officials last week denied their military was making incursions into the United States.


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Well heck, they already HAD someone start aninternational incident- by bringing an armed convoy loaded with contraband into CONUS. The international incident was ALREADY STARTED- it just wasn't FINISHED.

Cowards... quislings... traitors.

lpl/nc
 
The question is does this administration want to do anything about drugs
coming across, if not don't put officers lives in danger just flag the loads
thru. If they do wish to stop it call in armed copters not more guys with
pistols.:banghead:
 
Let's not overreact... okay go for it

Look, it would be great if this was just a one time thing, we could talk to the mexicans and see why they had crossed over but this has happened 200 times.

That constitutes a problm.

I remember hearing the mexican consolate say it may be drug runners disguised to look like mex military. If that is so, they wouldn't mind if we took out the garbage.
 
So what if...

You know, I have to tell you guys...I am so sick and fricking tired of hearing about this sh*t and nothing being done about it!!! "A well regulated Militia..." could not possibly ring more true than right now. If the government won't do it...God Bless The Minutemen!
 
Texas Officers Involved in Standoff at Border

Tuesday, January 24, 2006

SIERRA BLANCA, Texas — Men dressed as Mexican Army soldiers, apparent drug suspects and Texas law enforcement officers faced off near the U.S.-Mexican border after three suspicious SUVs attempted to flee state authorities, officials said Tuesday.

Andrea Simmons, an agency spokeswoman in El Paso, told The Associated Press that Texas Department of Public Safety troopers chased three SUVs, believing they were carrying drugs, to the banks of the Rio Grande during Monday's incident.

Men dressed in Mexican military uniforms or camouflage were on the U.S. side of the border in Texas, she said.

Simmons said the FBI was not involved and referred requests for further details to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The Inland Valley Daily Bulletin of Ontario, Calif., reported Tuesday that the incident included an armed standoff involving the Mexican military and suspected drug smugglers. The incident follows a story in the Bulletin on Jan. 15 that said the Mexican military had crossed into the United States more than 200 times since 1996.

In a news conference, Rick Glancey of the Texas Border Sheriff's Coalition, said three Hudspeth County deputies and at least two Texas Department of Public Safety troopers squared off against at least 10 heavily armed men from the Mexican side of the Rio Grande.

U.S. officials who pursued three fleeing SUVs to the Mexican border saw what appeared to be a Mexican military Humvee help one of the SUVs when it got stuck in the river, he said.

When that didn't work, a group of men dressed in civilian clothes started unloading what appeared to be bundles of marijuana from the SUV, and the stuck vehicle was then torched, he said. A second SUV had a flat tire and was left behind in the United States and its occupant ran across the border, he said.

Glancey said he could not confirm whether the armed men seen at the site were Mexican Army, police officers, or drug dealers, and would not detail what markings deputies may have seen on the men's uniforms or the Humvee.

Chief Deputy Mike Doyal of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department said that Mexican army personnel had several mounted machine guns on the ground more than 200 yards inside the U.S. border, the Daily Bulletin newspaper reported earlier.

"It's been so bred into everyone not to start an international incident with Mexico that it's been going on for years," Doyal said. "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do? Who wants to pull the trigger first? Certainly not us."

Hudspeth County Sheriff Arvin West, whose officers were involved in a similar incident last year, said he is certain that Mexican authorities know who was involved.

After the newspaper reported on Mexican military crossings earlier this month, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the report was overblown and most of the incursions were just mistakes.

In eastern California, Arizona and New Mexico, the U.S.-Mexico border is largely unmarked. But in Texas, the Rio Grande separates the two countries and even when dry, is a riverbed about 200 feet wide.

In November, Doyal said Border Patrol agents in the border town of Fort Hancock called for help after confronting more than six men dressed in Mexican military uniforms. The men allegedly were trying to bring more than three tons of marijuana across the Rio Grande, Doyal told the newspaper


Link http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,182650,00.html
 
so does this administrations lack of action on this mean that the war on (some) drugs is over?
Of course not silly, there is FAR too much money to be made in the seizure and forfeiture of drug customers currency, assests and real property. And don't forget all the hard working, "honest" DEA and narcotics agents who would be thrown out of work if it did end. Along with all the prison construction work, the lawyers and judges who'd have no cases, the prison guards who'd have no one to guard, etc, etc...

Besides, those hard working drug runners are just doing the job that Americans don't want to do.
 
RaetherEnt said:
You know, I have to tell you guys...I am so sick and fricking tired of hearing about this sh*t and nothing being done about it!!! "A well regulated Militia..." could not possibly ring more true than right now. If the government won't do it...God Bless The Minutemen!

The Minutemen won't do a darn thing about this. All they'll do is call the Border Patrol, who'll sit there, thumbs firmly inserted.
 
Personally, I believe that this is part of Jorge Bush's plan. We're becoming acclimated. The illegals were the tip of the spearhead, and now...???
This administration is putting the Border Patrol, and many citizens, in harm's way due to its inaction, its tacit approval of this invasion. Yet, many will give Bush a pass because he's a Republican. Ya gotta wonder...
Biker:rolleyes:
 
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