Mexican soldiers crossing the U.S. border (merged multiple threads)

[longeyes]

I'm honestly surprised that it hasn't come to serious violence yet. I keep wondering (hoping, really) how much longer it'll be, but it just keeps simmering with no boil.

The "violence" is elsewhere. In our streets. In our banks. In the barrios in Mejico. This is an entire sub-culture of violence. When we start trading shots it will be the endphase.

 

[Biker]

Longeyes nailed it. The violence is going on everywhere. If you live in a nice neighborhood, you may not be aware of it, but it's coming your way.
Biker

 

[tellner]

And another...

http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=8601B2BD-728F-4DCE-A6C2-4B84CE5F2955

Men in Mexican Army Uniforms Confront Texas Lawmen

(SIERRA BLANCA, TEXAS) -- Local lawmen in remote west Texas came face to face with ten armed men wearing what appeared to be Mexican army camouflage uniforms who came to the aid of one of three suspected drug dealers' vehicles when it became stuck in the riverbank of the Rio Grande, law enforcement officials said today.

The incident happened in Hudspeth County, east of El Paso, yesterday, Zapata County Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez, Jr, chairman of the Texas Border Sheriffs Coalition, told 1200 WOAI news.

Gonzalez says it started when Hudspeth County deputies and Texas State Police officers spotted three vehicles they suspected were transporting drugs south of Sierra Blanca, not far from the Rio Grande.

"They followed the vehicles," Gonzalez said. "One of the vehicles had a blowout, and 1400 pounds of marijuana was found in that vehicle. The driver absconded back into Mexico. The other two vehicles headed towards the riverbank. One of them crossed back into Mexico, and the third got stuck in the riverbed.

"At that time, officers saw several persons clad in BDU uniforms, BDU clothing, on this side of the river, in what appeared to be a Humvee type vehicle with what officers thought was a fifty caliber machine gun. The load of marijuana was unloaded by the persons in these uniforms and the vehicle was then set on fire."

'BDU' or 'Battle Dress Uniform' is the military term for what civilians call 'camouflage.'

Gonzalez says the men in the SUV and the uniformed men 'went back towards Mexico.'

Agent Andrea Simmons of the FBI in El Paso told 1200 WOAI news the bureau is 'aware' of the incident but is not investigating.

"At this point no federal laws that we investigate were violated," she said. "We are not involved."

Gonzalez says this is 'not an isolated incident.'

"If you don't live along the river, if you don't live in this area, you don't know what's happening here," he said.

Gonzalez elaborated on several similar incidents which have happened along the Texas Mexico border recently, all involving men wearing what appeared to be Army uniforms armed with automatic weapons, who appeared to be helping drug smugglers.

"These incidents are happening," he said.

The Mexican government is downplaying the incidents, and has said the men involved are not Mexican soldiers.

"When you see a Humvee vehicle with a fifty caliber machine gun on it, this leads you to believe this is not a vehicle being used by the drug lords, but in fact is part of the Mexican military. I think of course the Mexican government knows about this."

He says it would be highly unlikely that the men did not know they were in the United States.

"There is a river here. It is not possible not to know you have crossed the river and are in the United States," he said.

 

[belton-deer-hunter]

the weay i see it it is only a few days away from the boiling point now i have been telling people aobut this for months now and no one believed me until now. i think that the drug dealers in uniform is part of a plan to keep the public calm and that it really wasthe millitary and that they will do it again and some one will fire and when they do it will be over quickly house to house street to street and i know i will do my part to defend mt peice of earth

 

[numbertwentynine]

why were the drugs being taken into mexico? don't they usually want to bring the stuff into our country where there are people with money to buy it?

 

[Old Fuff]

When bringing drugs (and a load may literally be worth a million dollars or more) into to the United States, they try to avoid any contact with our authorities. But if that happens and they are still close to the border, they'll withdraw back into Mexico and move the load back on a better day. It's during the withdrawing part that shooting is most likely to occur.

 

[benEzra]

why were the drugs being taken into mexico? don't they usually want to bring the stuff into our country where there are people with money to buy it?

The SUV was fleeing from Texas law enforcement at the time. As I understand the situation from an NPR report today, TLEO's had just busted another Escalade carrying hundreds of pounds of drugs, and another one made a run for the border to try to get back across (and get away, without having the drugs confiscated). The fleeing SUV got stuck trying to ford a river and the uniformed military/paramilitary in question arrived in a military vehicle, flanked the stuck SUV, and unloaded the drugs into the Humvee.

 

[longeyes]

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

We have a President who won't take on Saudi Arabia and won't take on Mexico.

All this could get way ugly way fast.

 

[wingman]

We have a President who won't take on Saudi Arabia and won't take on Mexico.

Remember to bring America into the global economy we need third world labor,
education, products, no medical benefits, no pensions, just as our founding
fathers wanted.