Mad Magyar
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After finally reading an entire FBI account of this shootout in 1986, including autopsy report, guns/ammo used, shots fired, shooting diagrams, etc; I was reminded of some of the constant recollections of Jeff Cooper & Massad Ayoob.
Mr. Cooper uses this incident when taking jabs at .38’s & 9’s for personal defense. When you read the report, you can see where he’s coming from. Imagine the agents having .357 Magnums, but shooting .38+P ammo. The BG’s: same weapon, but with magnum loads. Mr. Cooper believes the outcome would have been different with his favorite .45.
Mr. Ayoob seems to always take a jab at LEO’s, (Feds included) shooting abilities compared to the general population due to their lack of seriousness and practice. The number of shots taken by other agents with their 9mm’s left a lot to be desired in terms of accuracy & stopping power.
The points of view by both of these men are quite evident in the Miami Shootout of 1986. Next time you run into a “caliber war” on these gun forums, think about Cooper & Ayoob. I did…
Mr. Cooper uses this incident when taking jabs at .38’s & 9’s for personal defense. When you read the report, you can see where he’s coming from. Imagine the agents having .357 Magnums, but shooting .38+P ammo. The BG’s: same weapon, but with magnum loads. Mr. Cooper believes the outcome would have been different with his favorite .45.
Mr. Ayoob seems to always take a jab at LEO’s, (Feds included) shooting abilities compared to the general population due to their lack of seriousness and practice. The number of shots taken by other agents with their 9mm’s left a lot to be desired in terms of accuracy & stopping power.
The points of view by both of these men are quite evident in the Miami Shootout of 1986. Next time you run into a “caliber war” on these gun forums, think about Cooper & Ayoob. I did…