Mini Range Reports: sw1911, sw m21, taurus 905

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I made a trip to the range today and finally got around to breaking in a few recent purchases, with mostly positive results.

We'll get the bad news out of the way first. I fired 50 rounds of Geco 124 gr 9mm ball through my new Taurus 905. First, a disclaimer, I am not a Taurus hater. I think in the last few years their quality control has improved dramatically and that they provide a good amount of quality for money spent. That said, the 905 was a mixed experience at best. The recoil from the (rather warm) Geco ball was stiff, and the accuracy at 7 yds was mediocre at best. All hits were in the upper torso, but they were scattered fairly randomly about it. Groups of around 3 inches were the best I could do. I'd like to blame the trigger, but really it was a fairly smooth DAO pull. I can live with this level of accuracy given this pistols intended role of BUG since all the rapid fire strings were in the kill zone of the target, but my keltec 3at shoots better groups at 10 yds than this does at 7, and the KT doesn't have sights. What I can't live with is the fact that the gun totally tied itself up after round 3 of the first cylinder fired. After much cursing and grunting I muscled the cylinder open and found that the trigger was somehow stuck. Apparently profanity works magic because it suddenly started working again for no clear reason and other than 1 light strike (Due I believe to a slightly bent stellar clip) the gun worked fine thereafter though the cylinder rotation occasionally felt stiff. Oddly, the gun appeared to function much smoother when fired without the clips, though of course cases had to be individually flicked out of the cylinder with a thumbnail. Overall, its a neat little gun but with the mechanical problems I experienced I doubt I will trust it enough to fulfill its intended role as a BUG.

Next up I fired 50 rounds of rather sedate reloaded 240 gr JHP through my new SW M21 (without the garish "Thunder Ranch" decal on the sideplate). Its been a long time since I shot a 44 spl and I had forgotten just how much I liked it. Double action was heavy but smooth. Single action was very crisp and easily cut ragged 1 hole 6 round groups at the 10 yd line. Head shots were easy at 25 yds once I figured out where to hold on the target, as the gun shot aprox 6 inches high at that distance with the very low velocity reloads. I intend to try it with a bit faster loading before doing any filing on the front sight, as 12 rounds of Silvertips shot considerably closer to point of aim, and the 200 gr silvertip is hardly a barnburner. This is the gun that will probably make me start doing my own reloading, as 44 spl is high around these parts and the gun is begging for some Keith SWCs at about 1000fps. But for now the 240 gr pills at about 750fps are certainly pussycats to shoot, easy on the ears, and scary accurate.

Final peice of new business was a stainless SW1911 full size. 100 rounds of winchester white box 230 gr ball were fired with absolutely no malfuntions of any kind. Incidentally, has there been a recent change in WWB? I don't remember the last batch being quite this smoky and smelling like used gym socks. The gun ran flawlessly and is far more accurate than I am, firing 25 rounds into one ragged hole aprox 1 inch in diameter centered on the bridge of the targets nose at the 10 yd line. I got a 4 inch 25 yd group, but that is all me. I can't shoot any better than that at 25 yds off hand with any handgun. I have absolute confidence that a better shooter (not particularly hard to find) would easily cut that group in half. Trigger was very crisp, slide cycled very smoothly, and again, no malfunctions at all in the first 100 rounds fired. I couldn't be happier with the SW1911 thus far. Did I mention the sights were perfectly regulated out of the box in both elevation and windage? A first for me with 1911s.

Thats all for now, I'm off to ice the tip of my trigger finger. That 905 beat on me a bit.
 
Good report. Folks don't always post a lot of comments on others' range reports, but I read them and usually find them quite worthwhile.

The .44 Special is also the one that will likely make me take up reloading. That and the .32 H&R Magnum. Expensive, sometimes hard to find ... and the definition of sweet shooting calibers.
 
copaup said:
I couldn't be happier with the SW1911 thus far. Did I mention the sights were perfectly regulated out of the box in both elevation and windage? A first for me with 1911s.

Copaup:

I'm also in the market for a 1911, my first. I've narrowed it down to the GSR and the SW1911. Years of extractor nightmares and bad customer service/QA by different companies has disuaded me from purchasing one until recently. Out of curiosity, why the SW1911?
 
I have found my M21 (with "garish" sideplate, which I kinda like:what: ) shoots to POA with 200gr Gold Dots at about 980fps with 8.0gr of Unique. I believe because Black Hills quit making their limited run of 240gr Keith SWC production was changed and the 21 was regulated for 200gr bullets instead. My reloads are great and CCI Blazer with the Gold Dot hits about right as well. For practice I'm loading a lead RNFP 200gr with the same powder charge as above, but it is yielding about 75fps more velocity.

I concur with the trigger on the M21 being heavy, but smooth. I need to stone the internals of mine to lighten it a bit.

Great reviews copaup.
 
I have owned one of the original SW1911's now for a while and love it.
 
copaup said:
I made a trip to the range today and finally got around to breaking in a few recent purchases, with mostly positive results.

I got a 4 inch 25 yd group, but that is all me. I can't shoot any better than that at 25 yds off hand with any handgun. I have absolute confidence that a better shooter (not particularly hard to find) would easily cut that group in half.

I don't know of many people that can shoot a 2 inch group offhand at 25 yards. Hell that's a good group using a Ransom Rest. You must hang out with some champion pistol shooters.
 
Oddly enough, I do hang out with a couple of professional shooter types. My recent trainee was one of those 30000 rd a year competition shooters before he apparently took a major bump on the head and decided to go into police work. That guy shoots better off hand unsupported (and probably blindfolded) than I can braced off of sandbags. He's scary. Maybe I have a skewed view as to what a "good" shooter is, but I'm sure as heck not in the top 25% of the crowd I hang out in. And rest assured, single action is the only system that allows me any precision past the 15 yard line. I usually score 92-96% on our qual course, but its an ugly 92-96%.

I went with the sw1911 based on uniformly good reviews from people I talked to. Build quality and fit and finish is noticibly higher than the 3 Springfields I've owned previously and better in several areas than the Colt NRM Commander I recently got rid of. I am a bit of a traditionalist and the external extractor was a bit of a hang up for me, but Smith has been using this same type of extractor for years and it hasn't given me any problems yet. No failures to extract, no brass in the forehead, no problems at all. I'm up to 300 rds now and still have no failures of any kind with the Smith.

I'll stand by my garish comment. Maybe if it was a bit smaller it wouldn't bother me so much but it just jumps out and smacks me right in the optic nerve. I just saw one of the 50th anniversary model 29s and it has the same problem, a huge gold emblem on the sideplate. Different strokes for different folks, but to my eyes it just doesn't fit with the rest of the pistols aesthetics. I still want one of the new 29s though.
 
I've read a few bad accounts of the 905 locking itself up. I own one, and a friend has a pair of them. Mine has had close to 500 rounds through it, all Remington 115 FMJ or +P HP. It has never bound up or any kind of malf. My friend hasn't had any problems with his, either.

Carried it last night, in a pocket holster, and will probably do so until it gives me a reason not to.
 
Another vote for the Smith

mine is the Commander-size Scandium. It has run flawlessly with ball, hoolow points, and truncated-cone practice loads. Good-looking and light for carry.
 
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