I have calle UPS, and Fedex, today and asked them if I can ship a weapon, "a pistol", intra stare, "in the same state" provided both parties had a permit, and was told tha one party must have an FFL, or be a firearms manufacturer, I then stated that the info found on several sites said something other than that, to wich they both replied the law is one thing but the policy of the company is something else, they don't do it, I asked if fedex had recentlly changed thier policy, referring to several websites, and the woman at Fedex told me she had been there for 12 years and they never allowed the shipping of a firearm itra state, so who does still do this if anyone. And please don't tell me what some website says, because they apparantlly are mistaken. I called the main offices of both carriers.
Misinformation on firearms shipping
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nalioth
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Fedex is very anti-gun.
UPS allows all legal firearms shipments, but their counterpeople can be ignorant of their policies.
Print out the UPS firearm shipping policies and take them with you. You may have to get a manager involved.
UPS allows all legal firearms shipments, but their counterpeople can be ignorant of their policies.
Print out the UPS firearm shipping policies and take them with you. You may have to get a manager involved.
Shadow1198
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I just shipped a handgun with Fedex, though it was to an out of state buyer at an FFL. The employees acted perfectly fine, though I'm also in Texas. As far as in state transfers between individuals, I honestly do not about that. In the state of Texas you can ship rifles and shotguns directly to another individual in the state through USPS and do not have to go through an FFL. Though, from what I understood I thought a transfer of handgun that isn't face to face has to go to an FFL whether it's in the state or not? I may be wrong about that, so someone please correct me if I am. State law differs between states on the matter though, so keep that in mind.
Ok after an hour on the phone, unless you have an FFL, a collectors lic., a dealer, manufacturer, none of them do it anymore, I spoke to a manager at UPS, and he was a decent guy, they have all changed thier policys reguarding shipping firearms, 'HANDGUNS" through any carrier. If someone knows any different please put it up, I'm not asking for opinions, and apparentlly all of these websites are wrong, because it dosen't matter what the website says, UPS, and Fedex in no uncertain terms no longer allow it.
nalioth
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In Texas, if you can legally FTF sell it, you can legally ship it directly to the person. UPS policy is overnight on handguns. Long guns can go by USPS.
This has been covered in dozens of previous threads here in THR.
This has been covered in dozens of previous threads here in THR.
nalioth
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Here ya go:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=323555
and good old wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States#Shipping_Firearms
Plenty of education here on THR.
Ask for the manager at the hub if the desk jockeys don't know. I've shipped a couple of pistol to other Texans, and using UPS is the same pain whether you ship to an FFL or a private citizen.
FedEx won't hardly take guns from private citizens to anyone. They are known to be anti-gun in policy.
UPS Firearm Shipping Policy page
Knowledge is power.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=323555
and good old wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States#Shipping_Firearms
Plenty of education here on THR.
Ask for the manager at the hub if the desk jockeys don't know. I've shipped a couple of pistol to other Texans, and using UPS is the same pain whether you ship to an FFL or a private citizen.
FedEx won't hardly take guns from private citizens to anyone. They are known to be anti-gun in policy.
UPS Firearm Shipping Policy page
Knowledge is power.
American_Pit_Bull
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Since when? I ship handguns through them all the time. They will not ship between private individuals due to their policy though.
UPS, as nalioth highlighted, does not have a policy against individuals shipping intrastate to one another; since it is legal to do so.
DUCKNDAWG
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I just mailed to pistols to west virginia two weeks ago via ups had to send them overnite at an arm and leg. but no hassles what so ever. I also just sent a rifle to texas via usps with no problems at all.
DENALI
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Never had a problem with either of them....
nalioth
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Which restricts you from your rights under the law (at least in Texas).Guapo said:
BlazingAngel01
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When I sent my Sig. Sig sent me the label I sealed the box put it on and never said that it was a Firearm and Sig received it. I hope I see it again?!?!!!!
RNB65
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Don't tell them what it is.
The federal requirement that the carrier be notified when shipping a firearm (18 USC 922(e)) only applies to interstate shipping, not intrastate shipping.
The federal requirement that the carrier be notified when shipping a firearm (18 USC 922(e)) only applies to interstate shipping, not intrastate shipping.
Cosmoline
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Common carriers can add restrictions if they want, and I wouldn't be surprised if they've mandated FFL shipment on all handguns. There's nothing you can do about it other than drive the firearm (intrastate of course) and do the transfer yourself.
benEzra
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I once (years ago) tried very hard to ship a gun to myself in another state (legally, since I was headed there, and had a copy of the BATFE regulations in my hand; I was flying, and didn't want it stolen), but UPS would NOT do it, even from a major hub. I ended up checking it through on the airline.
Basically, their policy was that if it's not going to an FFL, we don't care if it's legal to ship, we won't ship it.
Basically, their policy was that if it's not going to an FFL, we don't care if it's legal to ship, we won't ship it.
Thanks Cosmoline, that's what is happening, I spoke to them today at length, we are talking "handguns", only, they have ammended thier policys. Forget what the websites are telling you, it's a crapshoot if you do it and get caught, it's going to pinch. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, just ask anyone who ever got in trouble and said, oh but this guy, or tht website said it was ok. Wrong, as of today Fedex Air, was the only one who would do the shipping, intra, not inter state, and I am not talking about Rifles just handguns, in FLA, check your local law and policys, Just trying to save someonew that knock on the door. I asked the guy from UPS why they changed thier policy, and he said "i'ts getting scary out there", My guess is they just don't wnat the liability problem, but who knows.
American_Pit_Bull
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What law?
American_Pit_Bull
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And UPS has the same policy and they aren't anti-gun?
Eightball
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Just like in the other, darn-near identical thread you have going, ask to see this policy change in person; if not, talk to the manager, then that guy's manager, then that guy's manager. If they won't connect you to their next higher-up directly, get a phone number for the same person, and call them yourself anyway.
Unless it's in writing somewhere, it's simply those clerks being idiots. I shipped a revolver to S&W about a year ago (to be fixed), wound up getting it replaced, and they told me that so long as it wasn't a different calibre, they could send it back to me without going through an FFL. I had to drive to my airport UPS hub to ship it, though, because the counter stores will not do it. Drive to your nearest UPS airport hub and try it.
Unless it's in writing somewhere, it's simply those clerks being idiots. I shipped a revolver to S&W about a year ago (to be fixed), wound up getting it replaced, and they told me that so long as it wasn't a different calibre, they could send it back to me without going through an FFL. I had to drive to my airport UPS hub to ship it, though, because the counter stores will not do it. Drive to your nearest UPS airport hub and try it.
Why did it take until post #16 for us to discover that you are talking about Florida? No body cares what Texas law is, if you are trying to ship a handgun in the sunshine state.
You need to ask about FL law plus any local law that may apply. Some cities may have laws that are more restrictive than those of the state.
After determining local and state laws, then you can check with carriers.
You need to ask about FL law plus any local law that may apply. Some cities may have laws that are more restrictive than those of the state.
After determining local and state laws, then you can check with carriers.
Sorry, my bad I should have said FL in the first post, I was just frustrated from making way too many phone calls including the ATF, where after an hour of trying every number I could find, I was sent to voicmail, I hate that. But check your local regs. anyhow, usually if they start doing this in one place, next thing you know it's everyplace. Some legal group should challange the policy of refusing to ship anything that is legal to own. Other than elephants , lol, and things that are really somehow rediculous or impossible to transport. As long as it's legal it should be allowed.
American_Pit_Bull
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If they start doing what? You are talking about a policy of a national corporation... There are no regional differences in policy. There may be misinformation about policy that may come from a regional manager, but that doesn't reflect a policy change.
I always ship from the same FedEx hub and I have gotten answers from "We definitely do not ship handguns" to an employee getting a friendly chuckle out of me declaring the firearm... His response was "Oh yeah, you "have" to tell me that." I got the notion that he thought the policy was dumb and that the handgun was like every other package that they ship.
nalioth said:
Different topic. I was simply correcting your false statement.
Besides, last I heard, FedEx was not a government entity. They simply have policies in place, just like any other company.
In my business, I can ship a firearm FedEx to a FFL or Mfg. I simply CANNOT ship one via UPS, it has to go to a hub. Using your criteria, FedEx seems to be the more gun friendly of the two.
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