The P3AT is about as small as it gets for a center fire cartridge pistol.
Guess you've never seen a Baby Browning in .25acp. And, yes...it's a semi-auto.
The P3AT is about as small as it gets for a center fire cartridge pistol.
PM9 may fit in your pockets but certainly not in mine.
PM9, for me, carries just fine in jeans or Dockers type slacks for work. Never a problem.
One of the first "rules" of Concealed Carry is realizing you will have to change your lifestyle, part of this includes understanding you should dress to your weapon. The PM9 will fit in your pockets, you might have to buy new pants but you could do that if you wanted to. I carry a PM45 in my pocket everyday, I had to change my dress to do this, I now wear the Carhart Carpenter pants I used to hate, I had to do this in order to carry the gun I had selected in the manner I selected.
The .380's do fit into the market, there are many people who would rather be (IMO) under powered than change their attire, but it is a true saying 'A .380 in my pocket is better than a .45 on my nightstand.'
My two cents, You should select a weapon and buy your wardrobe to fit your gun, some people are unwilling to do that and for them the mouse guns are better than nothing, but I refuse to be one of those people.
You have to wear looser fitting clothing when you conceal carry. Wearing spandex is not conducive to CCW.
I personally like loose fitting jeans as they are more comfortable. The P3AT is about as small as it gets for a center fire cartridge pistol.
The problem I honestly have is that I have fairly large thighs. I have always had the problem that the waist will fit fine but the legs will be tight. If I go for the ultra monster relaxed version the legs get roomy but they look dumb in the legs for being as baggy as they are and since I have no butt, even with a belt tight, they always ride down until I look ridiculous. So I go with something that I can fit a larger handgun in the pocket but live with looking bad and having the jeans sag/fall down, or I live with either pocket carry with a .380 or going one size up in the waist and wearing IWB, which again starts to get a bit into baggy butt look and without an amazing belt things start to sag. Pick what you want but before you cast your opinion as the golden rule realize that some other people have tried multiple things and have weighed out all the pros and cons.It'll fit in mine but I don't wear emo jeans
benzy2 said:I think its a bit humorous as to what all people want to shove down their pants pockets. In Ohio we are required to have the handgun in a holster. I would love to see the setups you guys are using on some of these guns.
I run into the problem that the jeans that fit are tight enough it takes a while to get even a phone out. They aren't something I am crazy about pocket carry with in the front pockets. I have a rear pocket holster for an LCP/P38T. I find it the easiest for me to draw from if I have to go from a pocket. IWB is ideal though for me. Much more so than any pocket holster. The smaller 9mm seem to carry real well on a quality IWB if I have a quality belt to go with them, though I haven't tried them all.And, pocket holsters are not hard to draw from at all. In fact, a lot of the time, they're the fastest thing out there if you have your hands in your pockets walking across a parking lot at night or something. Hand's already on the gun.
The problem I honestly have is that I have fairly large thighs. I have always had the problem that the waist will fit fine but the legs will be tight. If I go for the ultra monster relaxed version the legs get roomy but they look dumb in the legs for being as baggy as they are and since I have no butt, even with a belt tight, they always ride down until I look ridiculous. So I go with something that I can fit a larger handgun in the pocket but live with looking bad and having the jeans sag/fall down, or I live with either pocket carry with a .380 or going one size up in the waist and wearing IWB, which again starts to get a bit into baggy butt look and without an amazing belt things start to sag. Pick what you want but before you cast your opinion as the golden rule realize that some other people have tried multiple things and have weighed out all the pros and cons.
I think its a bit humorous as to what all people want to shove down their pants pockets. In Ohio we are required to have the handgun in a holster. I would love to see the setups you guys are using on some of these guns. Even my work slacks, which are Dockers, won't hold a cell phone (envy2) and an ipod touch together comfortably and without printing. By the time you put a holster around even the smallest of 9mm its like a balloon in my pocket. Any pictures of your pocket 9mm or larger auto or .38 special or bigger revolver with holster both in and out of your pocket?
Another question. How fast can you draw your handgun from the pocket out of the holster? Do you think you would be better off with an IWB holster? Even if I managed to fit something larger in a pocket I can't see pulling even the smallest of 9mms out of my front pocket with any speed compared to an IWB holster. I'm all for carrying larger handguns than a .380, I just can't see doing so from a pocket, at least any pocket on a pair of pants that fits me.
amd6547 said:You guys can have your newfangled plastic pocket 380's. For me, 380 developement stopped with John Browning in 1910
I have it in my belt right now.
And we have ours in our POCKETS.
Had it not been for the ammo availability problem for my LCP I would have never purchased the Ruger LCR. Really enjoy this little package.