More Americans are Carrying than ever before. The numbers don't lie.

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MCRGO just sent out their monthly newsletter, and it had a graph of how many CPL holders in MI there were in each month of the last year. I forgot the numbers, but the growth shocked me quite a bit. Definitely a good sign.
 
I read the article but I didn't see the numbers to support more people carrying...It was discussing permit numbers, instead of th actual number of people carrying. I can count the few people who have a permit and carry on one hand. Id have to make a long list of folks I know who have a permit and do not carry. Don't let the numbers mislead you.

The article mentions:

Indiana has seen license application times skyrocket to nearly 18 weeks for paper applications since last year.
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Continuing to focus on Indiana, from Fourth Quarter 2012 to First Quarter 2013, Indiana saw an increase in LTCH holders of 17,250.
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Over the past few years other States, like Wyoming and Arizona have completely eliminated the Constitutional Carry".
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Remember that documents like the Constitution it's Bill of Rights enumerate Rights. They don't grant them and they certainly don't require us to seek permission to exercise those Rights.
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Just like it says, it doesn't grant them nor does it require us to seek permission....BUT, what it left out, is that we can choose not to exercise the rights we have. Even we obtain a permit for those rights.
 
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This is bad news....for criminals. Who are they supposed to target if we are all armed? Nobody ever thinks of the criminals feelings do they? Well, some places like Chicago still care.
 
Applications for Permits has exploded, my guess is that more people are carrying.

Case in point is my wife, who is currently in the local (Connecticut) quagmire of applying for a Carry Permit. She completed her NRA class 18 months ago, then didn't pursue the Permit process for "who knows why?".

Sandy Hook occurred, processing on Permits slowed way down, and now she is in NICS limbo, waiting on fingerprint/background checks in a bureaucracy that really does not want to allow her to exercise her rights.

She states emphatically that she won't carry a gun, but she is a part of America that wants to do what she can to protect her rights in whatever legal way she can because we have no idea what the future holds.
 
I can count the few people who have a permit and carry on one hand. Id have to make a long list of folks I know who have a permit and do not carry. Don't let the numbers mislead you.
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Yes, I would have to agree with this. 'Permits issued' does not automatically equal 'people carrying'.
The number of CHL holders in Ohio has sky-rocketed in the past couple of years..yet quite a few of the people I know with CHLs have never carried. Two of my co-workers have CHLs and neither carries. One of them even took the CCW course twice over a seven year period before finally applying for and getting his CHL.....but he still doesn't carry.
It is wonderful that so many are obtaining their permits. It is just that this doesn't necessarily mean that they are all actually walking about armed. A lot of them are like my co-workers, or Steve's wife; exercising their right, but not carrying.
But I suppose it is good to think that muggers may read the news articles and think otherwise.
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It's always been that way. More people get permits/licenses than actually carry. I have no idea what percentage of new permit holders are carrying, nor whether or how that ratio might have changed. I doubt it's dropped to 0% though, so I'm confident that the number of people carrying in the U.S. has increased. It would be nice to know, but I haven't seen any recent study on this, let alone one from a reputable source.
 
Our permit apps have soared this past year or so. Of the 4 people i know real well including me 2 of us carry regularly. Myself and an auxillary leo. I would guess only half at most actually carry .,
 
A very good point has been made that even though more permits are issued that doesn't always equate to more people carrying but with that said does it really matter in the overall picture. For all the permits that are already out there I am sure not all of those carry. So more permits issued just means a more percentage of people that carry. But from a criminal aspect of it they also know that with more people with permits means more a chance of someone haveing a gun.

And on the flip side of that it shows our elected officials that the american public is exercising there right to carry and have permits to do so.
 
More Americans are Carrying than ever before. The numbers don't lie.
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So what does really tell us? It tells me that the same governments (local, state and federal) in many cases has failed miserably to protect its citizens from crime. The same governments that choose to work to deny me my rights to carry a gun! Short of divine intervention law enforcement can't be everywhere all of the time. Smart citizens are well aware of that and conclude they should take their own protection into their own hands. While my heart really goes out to those denied the rights to defend themselves against the criminal element, you get what you vote for. Take a good look at crime in the US, does an increase in CCW permits really surprise anyone? I also agree more permits issued does not necessarily mean more people are carrying but if only 50% of them are that makes for some large numbers.

Just MY Take
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I agree with Mr. Murphy et al; the number of permits does not equal number of people actually carrying. I go a lot of places where I can't carry without violating the law or someone's private property rights, and I suspect that's the case for most carriers.

With so many more people potentially carrying, a smart crook would attack someone only within a GFZ. Duh! Without eliminating GFZs, the rising number of permits doesn't have the deterrence value it otherwise would.
 
I can count the few people who have a permit and carry on one hand. Id have to make a long list of folks I know who have a permit and do not carry. Don't let the numbers mislead you.
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The number of folk actually carryin' is probably less important in the big picture than the number of people willing to stand up and declare that the RKBA has value to them.

Increases in carry permits can only make us stronger, regardless if the folk actually carry on a regular basis or not.
 
Applications for Permits has exploded, my guess is that more people are carrying.
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They probably are and it is probably a consistent fairly small percentage of the actual permit holders. Based on surveying folks in CHL classes here in Texas where they were getting renewed, but also those getting their permits, the vast majority do not carry regularly and a lot of the first timers didn't expect to carry regularly either.

By regularly, I mean daily. Some of the folks carried on the weekends, but didn't bother during the week because they could not carry at work, so why even get the gun out? (not my sentiment, theirs)

So the numbers don't like, but then again, they don't tell the truth either. They are just data. The truth and lies are in the interpretations and as pointed out by Mr. Murphy, the interpretation isn't specifically supported by the data used.
 
Yup. I have a permit, had one for more than seven years yet I rarely carry. Why? Well first I don't go places I don't deem safe to walk. No dark alleys, bars, late-night places, you get the idea. I do carry a weapon in my vehicle but frankly it's just too darn hot in Texas to carry concealed effectively most of the year. Today it's 97 and humidity probably 90%. Ugh.

The primary reason I obtained a permit to carry was..........because I could. That and in Texas the possession of a CHL negates the NICS requirement when purchasing a firearm from a dealer. This makes purchasing a little easier and faster.

I applaud those who do carry, but I seldom do it. Just my choice, and I certainly support the right and 2A in general. I urge anyone I meet who is considering getting a permit to do so, and as soon as possible. The more permit holders we have, the more positive 2A supporters we have. And positive voters, let's not overlook that point. I don't think any antigun folks will be getting permits, will they?
 
I agree with medalguy.

It's really a personal choice. I carry a first aid kit and fire extinguisher in both the car and the truck, and carry a firearm whenever I go out of the house. I never go anywhere dangerous, I guess that some of us are belt and suspenders kind of guys.
 
Many states have passed concealed carry laws that are fairly restrictive in their prohibited areas. This no doubt has an effect on the number that actually do carry.
Church, school, bars and the weird way those are interpreted, parks, banks hospitals, public buildings. Take a look at some of the laws and you will find much work that needs to be done legislatively.
 
Exactly, X-Rap.

My typical week takes me to church, city hall, college campuses, the post office, hotel ballrooms, exhibition halls...at least a place or two just about every day where my CCW is not welcome. I'm more often than not restricted from carrying.

I leave the house facing the choice of either not taking a gun at all, leaving it in the car several times, or violating the law or private property rights. Not a great set of options.
 
Good news indeed . MOre crimes nowadays will drive more people to arm themselves.
 
I know plenty of people that have concealed carry permits but none of them actually carry. I was also shocked by how many have purchased pistols for their wives that have no interest in firearms.

Typical story: "I bought my wife a pistol because I worry that she works in the city. So I bought her a gun and we both got our concealed carry permits. We went to the range once after we bought the gun but I can't get her to go back. She won't carry the gun with her and it just sits in a drawer at home"

I will get a concealed carry permit when I get my revolver later this fall not because I ever plan on carrying but because it will make it possible for me to ride my motorcycle to the range. In my county a getting a permit only requires filling out a form and handing over $20 to the Sheriff.
 
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