Most accurate 'stock' pistol?

[horge]

Are we talking about inherent mechanical accuracy?

Or are we including practical shootability as well?
I mean, your gun might be dead-on when rested, but other pistols might provide better average accuracy in offhand application.

Just asking.

 

[Marshall]

Sean, no doubt correct! I know folks who would be pleasantly content with 1 1/2" groups @ 50 yards with a scoped '06.

 

[Gewehr98]

Throwing another vote towards the S&W Model 952...

Because, if the 952 is anything like it's famous Papa, the Model 52, it's one seriously accurate factory-stock pistol. Just wish I could afford one. Oh, well, guess I'll plod along with the Model 52, instead.

 

[kidcoltoutlaw]

SIG P229

up a grade to SIG p229 sport. para ordnance TAC 4 is a real tack driver as well,thanks,keith

 

[clipse]

Or we could just make clipse happy and say, 'The CZ P-01 is absolutely the most accurate stock pistol on the planet!'

Thats all I was looking for.

When I started this thread I was thinking about combat ready, realistic for the average shooter, defensive handguns. I guess I should have been alot more clear. I was also not talking about the best group you ever had. I wanted to know what the most accurate stock pistol was in general. Obviously the sig210 would not be considered for the average shooter. ($$$) Anything with the word target in the name doesn't make me think of combat ready either. Again, I sould have been alot more clear. Sorry.


clipse

 

[Fed168]

The 220ST, G34, and the LDA single stack.

 

[12 Volt Man]

I vote for the CZ97. Great accuracy and not just from me. Anyone who I have let try mine has done well.

 

[Mikul]

H&K USP

 

[HogRider]

SIG 210 - 6

 

[Big Mike]

My most accurate pistols were in order:

1. Beretta Brigadier 9mm
2. Glock 26
3. S&W 6946
4. Witness .45 Full Size Steel Frame

Least Accurate for me:

1. Glock 21
2. Firestar Plus
3. All .380s I've owned

All the rest fell somewhere in the middle. I would imagine the most accurate stock pistol @ $1000 or less would be the HK P7. Mike

 

[jetrecbn]

Sig 210
Sig 220
Walther P88
HK P7
HK Elite

 

[boofus]

What about the USP Tactical? If it's anything like the MK23 it should be hella accurate and it is just under $1000. According to H&K the MK23 averaged 1.44 inches at 25 meters with five shots when clamped into a fixture. They even ended up with 4 tests where all five shots went through the same hole for a .5 inch group.

All I know is my Mark 23 is more accurate than its shooter. If the USP Tactical is anything like its big brother then it might be worth looking into.

I haven't seen any brand new P7s for less than $1000 lately. Going price seems to be around $1200-1400. About the same for a new USP Elite 9mm too.

The FN FiveseveN also has a non-tilting barrel and basically shoots a juiced up varmint round. Wonder how it stacks up.

 

[ss]

S&W PPC9 is the most accurate current production stock pistol made.

It has to be special ordered and available to law enforcement only.

 

[Hal]

What do you guys think?

Pardini Model K2S - course it falls outside of your question since it's a glorified "BB" gun

 

[deltaopwong]

Sig P210 and Glock 34

 

[Sean Smith]

It has to be special ordered

Well, it isn't a production gun then, now is it?

 

[Tamara]

Sean Smith,

The objectively correct answer to this question is the SIG P210. See the 50 meter test targets for details.

He specifically discounts hand-fitted 1.5k+ 1911's, so I think that hand-fitted 1.5k+ europellet launchers are out, too.

If, on the other hand, we're confining ourselves to dead-nuts-stock, ordered-from-a-catalog guns, well, my Pro's been pretty accurate, 'though I haven't stuck it in a Ransom Rest yet. I've been happy enough that I haven't felt the need to customize it. (Sorry, but there's no "poker faced" smiley.)

 

[Sean Smith]

He specifically discounts hand-fitted 1.5k+ 1911's, so I think that hand-fitted 1.5k+ europellet launchers are out, too.

Was there a point to that outburst, aside from being a smarty pants?

If, on the other hand, we're confining ourselves to dead-nuts-stock, ordered-from-a-catalog guns, well, my Pro's been pretty accurate, 'though I haven't stuck it in a Ransom Rest yet.

Didn't we just rule out megabux 1911s?

If not, then I see your Pro and raise you a Rock River Arms Bullseye Wadcutter. Hey, it is a standard cataloged model they make. 1.5" @ 50 yards with Federal Gold Medal Match. Really, calling the Pro anything but a handmade custom job is just playing with semantics, maybe even more so than calling a P210 a prodution gun.

I've been happy enough that I haven't felt the need to customize it.

What's left that isn't already on the Pro? A neck massager? A cappuchino machine?

 

[Tamara]

Was there a point to that outburst, aside from being a smarty pants?

If we removed posts made solely for smarty pants value, I think you and I would both have much lower post counts. back.

Anyhow, I took the "factory custom 1911's excluded" bit to include (by spirit of the statement) megabuck factory SIGs, Korths, Korriphilas, et cetera, which are all "factory customs" as well, just not 1911's.

 

[Sean Smith]

Truth.

By the way, I see you've taken up my bad habit of making a post, then editing it after you think of something better to say. How annoying!

 

[Greg Bell]

"If we removed posts made solely for smarty pants value, I think you and I would both have much lower post counts. back."

Ain't that the truth.

 

[Michael Zeleny]

Most accurate cheap pistol?

Anyhow, I took the "factory custom 1911's excluded" bit to include (by spirit of the statement) megabuck factory SIGs, Korths, Korriphilas, et cetera, which are all "factory customs" as well, just not 1911's.

According to the SIG Neuhausen engineers, the current production run of SIG P210 involves very little hand fitting. Their tight clearances leading to exceptional accuracy are due to the high tolerances of CNC manufacture and superlative quality of raw materials. This is witnessed by the ready retrofit of conversion barels and slides, along with smaller spare parts, onto the existing P210 pistols regardless of their vintage.

By contrast, Korth and Korriphila are benchmade products that owe nothing to factory manufacture.

If you choose to exclude "megabuck" sidearms from your accuracy sweepstakes, it would be more honest to do so explicitly, by postulating a fixed budget.

 

[Gewehr98]

I agree. The author of the thread was fishing for an answer.

And the answer he wanted started with "CZ".

But it's kinda hard to give an objective answer when the question's criteria changes several times throughout the thread.

Factory production pistol, and my own smart-a$$ answer to the question:

 

[Tamara]

Their tight clearances leading to exceptional accuracy are due to the high tolerances of CNC manufacture

...which are ever so much tighter than the high tolerances of CNC manufacturing used by Kimber, S&W, and others...

I'll provide the custom Springer and the Baer if you'll provide the 210 and the Ransom Rest. I'm not making any claims, but I'd be interested in seeing the results.

 

[Michael Zeleny]

Their tight clearances leading to exceptional accuracy are due to the high tolerances of CNC manufacture

...which are ever so much tighter than the high tolerances of CNC manufacturing used by Kimber, S&W, and others...

You may be familiar with the principle that the quality of the outcome depends less on the tightness of the tool than on the skill of its wielder.

I'll provide the custom Springer and the Baer if you'll provide the 210 and the Ransom Rest. I'm not making any claims, but I'd be interested in seeing the results.

My present circumstances leave little room for pleasure travel, less so for parting with front-line defensive tools. However I would be happy to lend the latter to a friendly visitor at a local range.