Most accurate target rifle out to 300 yards

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Dudes. The OP did NOT place any price restrictions. The recommendations should be AI, Blaser, Steyr SSG, etc., maybe FN, Sako. Not Savage & Remington & Howa. WE cannot afford these, but apparently HE can. :)
 
AR10, if you don't mind me asking, is the range you're talking about in NJ?
Middle of Central OH.

A 223 or 308 in a good heavy barreled rifle will shoot little groups all day. You also need a good rest, good optics, and good ammo.

I know the newer versions of the Civil War rifles had an accurate range of 300yd, and prior to that, 1837, or around that period the Afghanistan tribes were getting 100yd kills with flint lock's. They had no rests, good ammo, or optics. Drove the British and Russians nuts.
And some of those rifles are still around.
 
I know the newer versions of the Civil War rifles had an accurate range of 300yd, and prior to that, 1837, or around that period the Afghanistan tribes were getting 100yd kills with flint lock's. They had no rests, good ammo, or optics. Drove the British and Russians nuts.
And some of those rifles are still around.

There's a huge difference in hitting something the size of a person once vs shooting what someone would even call the most mediocre groups at extended ranges.

This thread is titled "most accurate" not "hit sumpin the size of a man":rolleyes:
 
The .223 seems to win all the competitions these days. Even out to 1K yards with the big, long bullets you need to insert single-fire.

Are we talking one shot, or 20 shots within 60 seconds? Much easier target acquisition with a .223 than a .308.

No guarantees, however, what that little .22 round will do to any non-paper target at those ranges. It's all a trade-off.
 
For what it's worth...6mmPPC is supposed to be the "most accurate" round out there.

I have neither the interest, rifle, patience nor money to confirm this hypothesis.

I do know that the .308 is not going to get you much more - accuracy-wise - at 300 yards than what you already have. .308 WILL shine at longer ranges and it will also turn "cover" into "concealment" faster than your current options if the need ever arises (and I pray it does not) :) .
 
I would respectfully disagree with the gentleman about cartridge design not having an effect on accuracy.

50 years of use and development in benchrest competition has shown that a few cartridge design parameters are conducive to accuracy. The development of the 6 PPC, and it's dominance in benchrest competition is the prime example. When Mike Walker of Remington decided to try and unseat the 6 PPC as "the" benchrest cartridge, he basically came up with a bigger 6PPC, the 6BR. Short, realtively fat cartridges, with a long neck and shoulder angle that tends to keep most of the combustion turbulence in the case have been proven for almost 35 years to be dominant in benchrest competition, where pure accuracy is the only requirement.

In High Power across the course competition,(200,300 and 600), where ballistics, ( wind deflection), is almost as important as pure accuracy, the 308 is a strong contender, as is the 6XC, 6BR and the .223.

In High Power Long Range competition, ( 600-1000 yards), the ballistic abilities of the cartridge become even more important. At the long line, the 308, 6XC,.243, .243 AI and the 6.5-284 are popular.

In 300 Meter competition, the 6BR rules.

In 1000 benchrest, where rifle weight is of no concern, big over bore magnums rule, even though IIRC, the current world record for group size is held by a 6BR.

Over the last 20 years, National High Power championships have been won with several calibers---308, 243, 6.5-308, 7mm-08, 22-250 and 6mm Hagar.

Almost any caliber can shoot accurately with the right equipment and reloading skills, but for pure accuracy, read Precision Reloading or Benchrest.com and take tips from our Benchrest brethren. Most of us aren't concerend with a sub .200" group size, but if you are, the 6PPC is the current king of the hill, and has been for 30 years.
 
well it may not be more accurate a 308 will usually hold its accuracy out to farther distances. The heavier bullets will allways be less effected by wind. I will also say this about the 308. It may not be any more accurate then the others but it certainly isnt any less accurate either.
 
Without knowing what exactly your intended use of this rifle is, it is hard to give a good recommendation.
If your shooting will be off the bench or paper punching, then there are a lot of excellent calibers available. If this is what you will be doing, then why put up with the recoil of a 30 cal.? There are quite a few smaller cartridges that will do what a 308 will do out to 300 yds. and not punish you.
If you want good info on what cartridge to use, find out what the competition shooters are using. If you reload, you will find more good cartridges than you care to hear about. If you do not reload, there will still be several calibers in which factory ammo is available. By checking out what serious competitors use you will find calibers in which quality components are available. You will also find calibers that are relatively easy to develop an accurate load for.
 
There's a huge difference in hitting something the size of a person once vs shooting what someone would even call the most mediocre groups at extended ranges.

This thread is titled "most accurate" not "hit sumpin the size of a man"

I would agree up to a point. I'm definitely not a ballistics expert, but I do have to be present during the competitions at our local range. The best accurate shots come from the shooters with the 308's with one guy shooting a 7mm magnum. (this guy works for the feds and is some kind of sniper I think). The shooters using the .223's did the poorest, mainly because of the winds and wind gusts. They had absolutely no problems at the 100yd mark but when they moved out the 200 then 300yd mark the shots started to get further apart.
The range also has a few members that shoot percussion rifles that do very well at 100, 200, and 300yds from bench rest. They don't button hole like the expensive big guns but they do get into the 6" bull most of the time.
The point is accuracy has less to do with rifle/handgun than it does with person shooting. I've seen shooters come out with 3,4,or 5 different guns decked out with about every gadget they could put on the gun and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, then blame the gun a junk. :banghead:
 
Thanks for all the input.I do reload I just keep hearing from all my gunshop junkies that hang out the same place about how good the 308 is just wondering is it all that much better than my very accurate bull barrel savage in 22-250 or my wonderful deer rifle my CZ 550 in 243?
Thanks
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I hear tell that the .338 Lapua holds the record for tightest group at 1k yards. It also kicks like a shotgun when shooting from the prone so many people are not able to shoot it much. There is a user here (Krochus, spelled something like that) that has a 7.62 X 39 that will do .33 MOA at 100y, but you are talking a little further than that. Any of your rifles are ok at that distance, but those calibers slow down at 300y and can be affected by wind more at the intermediate distances (300-500y). I have personally seen a .223 *5.56 nato acutally* move over a foot due to wind while shooting at 300m. The 7mm 08 is capable at the distances you are shooting, as well as the 30-06, .308, and a ton of other rounds if you are shooting out of a good rifle. You also didn't mention if you plan on using irons or a scope. Good luck and have fun.
 
The question is what is the most accurate target rifle to 300 yards? One has to look only to the IBS or the NBRSA for the rifles that are winners. 6PPC and 6BR in a variety of custom actions dominate. There are no .308, 22-250 or 220 Swifts making records.
 
Nice modern rifles but if you want style find an Enfield Enforcer L39A1 7.62mm.
Ranges up to 300 yards is a mite close for the Enfield action but my average was 6" on a still day.
I made 11" groups at 600 yards and 17" at 900.
Cost, £80.00 plus a new barrel £130.00.
Don't use anything but "green spot" ammo.
 
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