Most adopted law enforcement sidearm?

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Glocks seemed to be top dog for a while, but I keep hearing stories about them falling out of favor with LE agencies. I hear of a lot of State agencies going with Sigs, and I know of a few instances where the M&P has replaced Glocks.

Does anyone know who owns the bulk of the market right now?
 
What weapon do they use in europe?

Is the glock as popular for euro le as it is for american le?
 
Česká Zbrojovka claims the CZ 75 and variants are in service with "more Governments, Militaries, Police and Security agencies than any other pistol in the world". It is known to be in service with:

* Czech Republic: Police (P-01 variant introduced in 1999)
* Chile: Army (manufactured locally by FAMAE as the FN-750, bearing great resemblance with the Chinese-made Norinco clones and with the early Italian Tanfoglio TA-90)
* Democratic People's Republic of Korea: (백두산권총, "Baek-Du San pistol", named after the "White-Headed Mountain" on the borders with China)
* People's Republic of China: Norinco has produced a copy of the CZ 75
* Finland: Customs authorities
* Georgia: various Police forces
* Honduras: Policia Nacional Preventiva
* Iran: Army (possibly clones made in China by Norinco)
* Lithuania: Police
* Poland: Military Police (Żandarmeria Wojskowa), Police
* Slovenia: Police
* Sudan: Army and Police (manufactured locally under license by the Military Industries Corporation, as the full-size "Marra" in 9mm and the compact-size "Lado" in .32 ACP caliber)
* Turkey: Police (several clones manufactured locally by factories affiliated with MKEK)
* United States: various Police forces
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CZ_75

# Algeria - Used by the police and the Groupe d'Intervention Spécial
# Flag of Argentina.svg Argentina - Used by the Prefectura Naval Argentina (Coast guard), Gendarmería Nacional Argentina (gendarmerie and corps of border guards)
# Flag of Bosnia and Herzegovina.svg Bosnia and Herzegovina - Military and Police.
# Flag of Brazil.svg Brazil - Air Force Infantry, Military Police and Brazilian Marine Corps
# Flag of Colombia.svg Colombia - Standard Pistol in the Colombian Army, Berretta 92 FS
# Flag of France.svg France - Used by the French Military as the PAMAS G1 (Pistolet Automatique de la Manufacture d'Armes de Saint-Étienne, "automatic pistol of the Saint Etienne manufacture"). It is a modified Beretta 92F used by, and designed for, the French Gendarmerie Nationale. The PAMAS G1 was manufactured under license from Beretta by MAS (an abbreviation of Manufacture d'Armes St. Etienne - one of several government-owned arms factories in France), however, early pistols were made in Italy by Beretta with steel supplied from France. There are several small but relevant differences between the PAMAS G1 and the Beretta 92F. The PAMAS G1 is fitted with a decocking device. This was required by the Gendarmerie Nationale hence the "G" in Beretta catalog for 92 with this feature. Additionally, the French-made steel used to manufacture the slides and locks contains tellurium , a rare earth metal that makes steel hard but difficult to temper. This was done to obtain a harder steel for the slide, but the difficulty to temper this type of steel can render the steel brittle. A safety retention lug for the slide was also provided.
# Flag of Iraq.svg Iraq - Iraqi military (92FS).[2]
# Flag of Italy.svg Italy - Used by all branches of the Italian Armed Forces and police (Italian Army, Aeronautica Militare, Marina Militare, Carabinieri, Polizia di Stato, Guardia di Finanza, Corpo Forestale dello Stato, Polizia Penitenziaria, Polizia Municipale).
# Flag of Malaysia.svg Malaysia - Malaysian Army and Royal Malaysian Police (92Compact L and 92F model).
# Flag of Mexico.svg Mexico - Military forces.[3]
# Flag of Peru.svg Peru - Peruvian Navy (92F) and FOES.
# Flag of the Philippines.svg Philippines - Used by the armed forces, and Philippine National Police.
# Flag of Poland.svg Poland - Used by GSP FORMOZA and GROM
# Flag of Slovenia.svg Slovenia: Military (since 1991) and police.[4]
# Flag of Sri Lanka.svg Sri Lanka - Military (Sri Lanka Armed Forces) and police (Sri Lanka Police Service)
# Flag of South Africa.svg South Africa - Military (SANDF) and police (SAPS) (Z88 licensed copy).
# Flag of Spain.svg Spain — Civil Guard.
# Flag of Thailand.svg Thailand - Royal Thai Army and Police.
# Flag of Turkey.svg Turkey - Police.
# Flag of the United States.svg United States - In service with the U.S. Military (M9) and some federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies. As mandated by U.S. law, the (M9) is manufactured within the United States. It is currently produced by Beretta USA, which is located in Accokeek, Maryland. Also, the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Dept. is issued the 92fs as their primary sidearm.
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# Australia: Royal Australian Air Force (Glock 19), Australian Customs (Glock 17), and all Australian police services (Glock 17, 19, 22, 23, 26, 27) except the South Australia Police and Victoria Police. A Glock 17 outfitted with a thumb safety was designed specifically for the Tasmania Police.[42]
# Flag of Austria.svg Austria: Austrian Armed Forces (Glock 17 designated Pistole 80).[43][44]
# Flag of Belgium (civil).svg Belgium: Belgian police (Glock 17),[44] Belgian State Security Service.[45]
# Flag of Canada.svg Canada: Numerous local law enforcement agencies to include: Calgary, Edmonton, Ottawa, Saskatoon, South Coast British Columbia Transportation Authority Police Service, Toronto.[44]
# Flag of Ecuador.svg Ecuador: National Police, various special police units such as the GOE and GIR.[44]
# Flag of Fiji.svg Fiji: Tactical Response Unit.[46]
# Flag of Finland.svg Finland: The primary service firearm of the police.[47] Also in use by the Defence Forces, Department of Corrections (Vankeinhoitolaitos) and Border Guard.[48]
# Flag of France.svg France: French Army—certain naval and parachute units (Glock 17).[49]
# Flag of Georgia.svg Georgia: Special forces.[44]
# Flag of Germany.svg Germany: GSG 9 of the German Federal Police,[44] Spezialeinsatzkommandos (special response teams) of several state police departments.
# Flag of Hong Kong.svg Hong Kong: Special Duties Unit, Hong Kong Police Force.[44]
# Flag of Iceland.svg Iceland: Icelandic National Police, Víkingasveitin, ICRU.[50][51][52]
# Flag of India.svg India: Special Protection Group and National Security Guards (both use the Glock 17).[44]
# Flag of Indonesia.svg Indonesia: Indonesian Army Kopassus, Indonesian National Police Force, Detachment 88.[citation needed]
# Flag of Iraq.svg Iraq: Iraqi security forces (largest user, purchased 125,163 Glock 19s).[53]
# Flag of Italy.svg Italy: Italian special forces—GIS, NOCS, "Col Moschin" Regiment, COMSUBIN, Intelligence and State Security.[citation needed]
# Flag of Jordan.svg Jordan: Presidential Guard.[44]
# Flag of Latvia.svg Latvia: Latvian Military (Glock 17), police.[54]
# Flag of Lithuania.svg Lithuania: Lithuanian Armed Forces (Glock 17).[55]
# Flag of Macedonia.svg Macedonia: Special police forces, traffic police[citation needed]
# Flag of Mexico.svg Mexico: Secretaria de Marina.[44]
# Flag of the Netherlands.svg Netherlands: Military of the Netherlands (Glock 17),[56] Dutch police (Glock 17, about 250 pistols in use as a stopgap measure).[57][58][59]
# Flag of New Zealand.svg New Zealand: New Zealand Police (Glock 17).[60]
# Flag of Norway.svg Norway: Royal Norwegian Army (Glock 17 designated P-80).[44]
# Flag of the Philippines.svg Philippines: Philippine National Police, National Bureau of Investigation (NBI), National Intelligence Coordinating Agency (NICA), Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency (PDEA).[44]
# Flag of Poland.svg Poland: Polish police,[61] Polish Military Police (Glock 17).
# Flag of Portugal.svg Portugal: Used in the police HK PSP, GNR (Glock 19) , In the Portuguese armed forces (Glock 17)... Glock 18c is also used in the DAE.[citation needed]
# Flag of Romania.svg Romania: Issued to deployed and several special operations units.[citation needed]
# Flag of Spain.svg Spain: Guardia Civil's UEI (Glock 17).[62]
# Flag of Sweden.svg Sweden: Swedish Armed Forces (Glock 17 designated Pistol 88 and Glock 19 as Pistol 88B,[63][64]) Swedish Customs Service, Swedish Coast Guard.
# Flag of the Republic of China.svg Taiwan: Garrison Command. National Intelligence Coordinating Agency.[citation needed]
# Flag of Thailand.svg Thailand: Policeman in 3 south province by G2G buying condition. (Glock 19, 2,238 pcs.) and some policeman, soldier and citizen nationwide. (some models)[44]
# Flag of the United Kingdom.svg United Kingdom: Greater Manchester Police, Tactical Firearms Unit Specialist Firearms Command of the London Metropolitan Police Service,[65] Police Service of Northern Ireland and certain Scottish Police Specialist Firearms Units (Glock 17).[66]
# Flag of the United States.svg United States: FBI, Department of Treasury IRS Criminal Investigation Division,[67] DEA,[68] EPA Criminal Investigation Division, New York City Police Department, Los Angeles Police Department, Philadelphia Police Department, thousands of other agencies at the national, state, and local levels.
# Flag of Venezuela.svg Venezuela[44]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_pistol

# Argentina: Used by the special operation group of the Policia Federal Argentina GEOF
# Flag of Australia.svg Australia: 4th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment, Australian Army, Australian SASR.
# Flag of Denmark.svg Denmark: Issued to the Danish Frogman Corps (USP9)[22] and the Danish Police Service.
# Flag of Estonia.svg Estonia: Service handgun of the Estonian Armed Forces.[23]
# Flag of France.svg France:Recherche Aéroportée et Actions Spécialisées (RAPAS).[24]
# Flag of Germany.svg Germany: Standard-issue sidearm of the Bundeswehr.[17]
# Flag of Greece.svg Greece: Used by various Greek police groups.
# Flag of Hungary.svg Hungary
# Flag of Indonesia.svg Indonesia : Used by Kopaska
# Flag of Ireland.svg Ireland: Service pistol of the Irish Defence Forces.[25]
# Flag of Japan.svg Japan: Japanese National Police Special Assault Team.[26]
# Flag of Malaysia.svg Malaysia: USP Compact issued to Malaysia Marine Department and Royal Malaysian Police personnel[citation needed]
# Flag of New Zealand.svg New Zealand: New Zealand Special Air Service.
# Flag of Norway.svg Norway: Navy special force Marinejegerkommandoen and army special force Forsvarets Spesialkommando.
# Flag of South Korea.svg Republic of Korea: 707th Special Mission Unit.
# Flag of Singapore.svg Singapore: USP Compact issued to Singapore Police Force personnel.[27]
# Flag of Spain.svg Spain: Used by the Cuerpo Nacional de Policía and the Servicio de Vigilancia Aduanera.
# Flag of Switzerland.svg Switzerland: Carried by officers of the Kantonspolizei Basel-Land.
# Flag of the United States.svg United States: Carried by troopers of the Maine State Police (USP45), Airline Pilots certified under the Federal Flight Deck Officer Program (USPc40), and Washington State Patrol (USP40)
# Flag of Portugal.svg Portugal: Policia Judiciaria, Policia Aérea
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_USP
 
The CZ-75 is the most used LE handgun worldwide,
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How people easily fall for CZ cheap commercial trick .

BIGGEST CZ market is US private market. TOTALY around 1 million CZ75 were produced since the introduction of this pistol in by Czechoslovakia in 1975.

How can CZ be most used LE pistol' if only Glock were produced more then 3-4 millions in last 25 years.

Guys, don't fall for cheap commercials.

BTW before 1991, Makarov Pistol and TT pistol were most widely use LE pistols on earth , thanks to USSR and People Republic of China;)
 
In the U.S. the most common police pistols are #1 Glock and #2 Sig Sauer by a wide margin. Beretta 92FS seems to be #3 but slipping fast. S&W is probably #4. I agree the CZ claim is bogus. They might be carried by a lot of European departments but they are all very small so the total number of officers doesn't add up to many.
 
Actually the most issued, most reliable gov't sidearm of the 20th century and the early 21st was the S&W K-frame revolver, in all it's service variations and service calibers, followed by the Hi-Power, and the Makarov.
Now, it appears to be the Glock, Makarov and the Hi-Power. Here in the U.S the S&W M&P is rapidly gaining on the Glock and may actually be eclipsing the SIGs in state, local gov't issuance. Some Depts. are actually trading in their Glocks for M&Ps, such as the New Mexico State Police.
 
I don't use LEO approval as a litmus test for any pistol.
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that's a very good choice.

many, it might even be most, LE agaencies have their weapon choice determined by price.

here's a dark little secret: they don't pay anything close to what you pay per gun. ;)

following the Glock business model, S&W is basically giving away their new M&P models to win share in the LE market
 
following the Glock business model, S&W is basically giving away their new M&P models to win share in the LE market
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Glock business model? Think again. Other companies were cutting some real deals long before Gaston ever thought of making a gun.
When we were carrying S&W autos about every 5-7 yrs S&W would swap us even new guns for our old guns. When the 357 SIG came out SIG gave the local PD (about 300 guns) new 357 SIGs plus new holsters, mag pouches, transition training ammo, and duty/qual ammo for 2 yrs and took in trade the PD's old S&W 6906 - no cost.
It's not just the gun business that cuts such deals. Nearly every company that does business at some point will cut some free or nearly free deals just to get a certain customer. Chevy did it. So did Dodge and Ford.
 
I think the percentage in use issue falls by the timeline. It depended when the poll was taken. For both law enforcement and military use the timeline may have went something like:
1911
BHP
CZ75
Glock 17
 
Actually if I had a choice.. to carry one.. it would be the cz.. just out of sure accuracy the others listed in this thread..

Havent seen many guns out shoot cz's it all comes down to what your comfortable with.. caliber and feel not just a brand, 75 and 97 fit me well I enjoy shooting them.
 
Actually CZ started mass production in 1975, just because they aren't popular in the US I would say all the sources claiming it is the most used military and LE handgun is true. Leave the US and you will see more than Glocks. BTW I love my Glock so no trashing Glocks here also love my 3 CZ's :)
 
I don't use LEO approval as a litmus test for any pistol.
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This is wise, since most LE handguns are selected not only with an eye to low cost, they are also often selected for being more "liability proof" than user friendly (which is why single action autos are very, very rare in LEO holsters). Also, more than one department issues the gun it does because that's what the officer in charge of the firing range likes, and he'll joyfully inflict his preference on everyone else in the organization (which is why we had those craptastic S&W autos for years).

Having said that, however, while selecting a gun popular with LE may actually not get you the best gun out there for your needs, you usually won't go wrong picking a gun that's popular in LE circles.
 
I would think doing some searches for accessories like holsters would help validate the makers marketing claims.

Third-parties do their own research and for the most part aren't going to setup and make items in which there is little demand.

A very crude and quick search so far doesn't have me putting much into CZ's claim.
 
Glocks are still big as far as I can tell our local P.D. went to them a while ago we offer to loan them a few our our sigs to check out when they were doing thier test but they decline the offer already had thier minds made up on the glocks think it was more a money thing then anything eles. The U.S. Marshalls use the glocks and the D.E.A. this I know since we have a few deputies assign to thier task forces. Sometimes I think weight of the weapon have a lot to do with L.E. choices since uniform officers carry so much stuff on thier belts now days. I have a couple of slim girls working for me and I can't get over how thier duty belts look not a space left with weapon magzine holder, tazer o.c. spary A.S.P. hand cuffs flashlights. If they issue anymore equipment to us I'm going to have to buy them lunch at McDonal everyday to make room on thier belts. Sad that the 1911 is not used by cops anymore in most areas but they are heavy

be safe
 
Here in AR I see more g22 and g23s than anything else. Dept of Corrections, State Police, UA PD, Community Corrections, and a slew of local departments. Fayetteville PD issues G35s. Also from what I understand a lot of MO departments are doing the same thing, but don't know any MO cops to ask.
 
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