Most any gun will do if you'll do.....

[kayak-man]

Being gun folks, we tend to obsess about one flavor of JHP versus another for our blasters or other obsessive details

I agree. I think too many of us worry about if we have the best gear out there, and forget some of the basics. I'm not talking about "Front sight, trigger press" although if that goes out the window, its a bad day. The two basic concepts I'm talking about is what I affectionately call "the Tactical Progression/Hierarchy: Mindset > Skill-set > Tool-set. The other concept is that unless someone brings an RPG to the party, shot placement usually trumps caliber.

I actually like the High Point firearms. My dad has one the .45 pistols, and its cheap, reliable, simple to use, and although its something I don't really carry or shoot, it works for him. I think the High Point rifles are a great idea, and if I didn't already have a couple "Sport Utility Rifles" I'd probably add one to the gunsafe.

That being said, I don't think it matters if you have the newest DSA FAL and a NIGHTHAWK FALCON or grandpas old High Standard .22 revolver, if you don't have the mindset and skill set to use the tools effectively.

People use sub optimal tools all the time: maybe you drive a crappy car, maybe you have to use the screw driver on a swiss army knife instead of a cordless drill, or maybe you say "I'll just ride my mountain bike, its only a half iron man." I'm guilty of the last one. the 70+ miles were not pleasant, but I was able to finish the race (I literally tied for dead last) because I put in the work. I had the mind set that I was going to finish even if I had a 10+ hour time and I had to crawl across the finish line. The guy that I tied with? He was a fairly overweight individual, but he still finished, because he had the same mind set.

Earlier, I mentioned skill set and shot placement. As an EMT, one of my first calls was to a gunshot victim. The patient took a .22 caliber round from a handgun to the face. Despite what all my shooting buddies say about "its gotta be a .45, 9mm ain't good enough," and my patient was out of the fight.

Sorry if I went a little off topic, but I wanted to illustrate that its the man that makes the gun (of bike) and not the other way around.

Hope this helps,
Chris

 

[MedWheeler]

RustyShackelford, I was addressing the "re-instigation" issue from a logistical standpoint, not from a legal one. I myself worked in law enforcement; I'm aware of the aspects of the job.

The pursuing officer is indeed a "re-instigator"; he/she just happens to be a legal one.

My point was not at all about possible inappropriate conduct (or even illegal conduct) on the part of any LEO. It was about strategy and tactics, and why LEOs are more likely to face hazard even after executing a firearms-related action to counter a threat than is the LAC.

I'll say it again in simpler terms. If one of us draws on a BG and he flees, we're good. The thread ends. The LEO, however, has to get "up close and personal" with someone who may well try to murder him. He can't just allow the threat to be ended by the BG's flight, and the BG knows this all too well.