Most controllable 7.62?

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Which 7.62 semi/full auto rifles are the most controllable? G3? FAL? AK? AR10? others?
This is not a poll, I'm just looking for opinions and experiences. Thanks
 
Semi automatic they are all pretty controllable. Fals, M14s, AR10s all work quite well for me. Full automatic fire though I would go with a Bren. That extra 10ibs really helps in a really handy form.
 
just wanted to point out the AK is a x39 round the others you have listed are x51.

M1A/M14 I feel is pretty controllable for the rate of fire that I would shoot it at - I could never afford to shoot them full auto if I had the option.

The G3 (PTR91) that I shot had more felt recoil than my M1A, but seemed just as controllable.

My AK....little more controllable than the x51 guns.

None as controllable as my M4orgery...
 
True semi-auto. Kalashnikov "AK" action rifles can be had in .308. Check out Saiga. You can convert them to Pistol Grip w/ high caps., or keep them in the sporter config.
 
Unless you want to specify a particular 7.62 round (ie 7.62x39, 7.62x51 NATO, 7.62x25, etc.); I'd guess an M2 carbine in 7.62x33 (.30 carbine).
 
Which "7.62"?

Since there are a buttload of chamberings and firearms in that bore size...

Most controllable? I'd say the PPSh-41 in 7.62x25 Tokarev. ;)
 
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They're both fun, but my vote goes to MG3, anytime, if we're talking about laying down volumes. But if you mean controllable as actually hitting what you're aiming at, then this:

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I wouldn't say that 7.62 NATO chambered rifle is very controllable in FA fire. I have shot the G3, FA, and I had to push hard to actually get 75% of rounds hit the target @100m.
 
hnk45acp said:
I guess I'd say the 2 more popular chamberings x39 and x51
The 7.62x39 is an "intermediate" cartridge, i.e., one developed specifically to be more "controllable" in full auto fire than a rifle cartridge. The 7.62x51 is a standard, full power rifle cartridge. Therefore, all else being equal, any rifle chambered in 7.62x39 will be more "controllable" than the same rifle chambered in 7.62x51. For the same reason, the AK-47 will generally be much more controllable in full auto than a G3, FAL, AR-10, M14, etc. Those latter rifles all pretty much went the way of the dinosaur because they are so difficult to control in full auto fire that they are essentially ineffective. The M-16 and AK-47, with their less powerful cartridges, can be fired in full auto somewhat effectively from the shoulder by a single soldier, so those rifles have survived.
 
I'm going to have to say the AR-10, not from experience though. None of the others have a recoil buffer except for the G3, which has gas rollers. And I don't know if those work as well.
 
A heavy FAL should be plenty "controllable."

I suppose that begs the question of whether you are in suitable physical condition to effectively operate a rifle of such weight under such conditions where "controllability" would be an issue worthy of any real concern.

The B.A.R. has been noted for its "controllability" since its inception.
A manly-man's rifle for sure.
 
doubleg said:
None of the others have a recoil buffer except for the G3, which has gas rollers.
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The G3 does not have "gas rollers." It uses a roller-locked, delayed blowback mechanism. The "rollers" are pressed outward by pressure on the breech face, which retards opening of the bolt until pressure in the chamber drops to a safe level. The G3 indeed has a recoil buffer that the bolt carrier impacts at the rear most part of its travel, but it has nothing to do with the rollers, and it is not gas operated in any way.
 
Back in the good old days of cheap mil-surp ammo.....I rapid fired my 2 FAL's a bit, even bump fired a mag or two....very controllable in my opinion.

The G-1 I have (full length barrel and bipod), was the more controllable of the two. From the bench using the bipod rapid, and bumpfiring.
 
I am assuming you mean a 7.62 RIFLE round rather than a pistol round? Well, I would opt for something that is sort of on the heavy side, as I believe that would help keep recoil and muzzle climb down.
 
Any of them. Accurate FA fire requires short bursts with a good stance, trigger control, and practice.
Semi-auto fire is another ball game. You can control any semi-auto by practicing the basics.
 
The only two 7.62 firearms I've had the pleasure of shooting are an AK (WASR10) and my SKS (Chinese). Of the two, the SKS seemed more controllable to me than the AK.
 
Depends on your compensator. I have an Primary Weapons (formerly AK concepts) on my Saiga AK and it makes a huge difference in control. A traditional slant brake is neglible compared to the J-Tac 47 comp. So you can probably tame even a "harsher" 7.62 with the right compensator and make it the equivalent of something easier.

Jim
 
I have found that the FAL is more controllable for me than the AK. I think that eventhough it is firing a more powerful round the extra weight and adjustable gas system are what makes the difference.
I agree though that the belt feds are the most stable on FA. In particular, the 240B was my favorite. Very nice little peice of hardware.
 
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