Most Potent .30ish Handgun Round

[woad_yurt]

Karlsgunbunker: What's +1 mean?

 

[mnw42]

I love my CZ52! I get some great looms when people see the bass fly about 20'. I ran som Bulgarian surplus ammo I had over a buddy's chronograph and it was pushing 1600 fps after the barrel got warm!

I did have two problems when I bought it. First, the slide wouldn't lock back on the last round. I replaced the magazine catch for five dollars and now it functions fine. The second problem I had, was shoulder separation and that was remedied with a nos CZ barrel from Numerich.

 

[zxcvbob]

I have a .30 Carbine Ruger Blackhawk, and I've gotten up to 1720 fps with 100 grain bullets with it, using WSF powder; but I abandoned that load because it caused excessive case head expansion (primers fell out after one shot.) I have very little doubt that I could have safely gone a lot higher if I was willing to sacrifice the brass.

I need to work up something similar using Blue Dot. Blue Dot might get to 1700 without ruining the brass...

 

[Harley Quinn]

Here is another one on the little 7.62x25.
http://www.makarov.com/tokloaddata.html

I'll find you one that is pretty hot for my 357 Sig also or my 10mm then I'll give you some stats on my 400 Corbon. But we aren't discussing them.
We are discussing the 30 carbine rifle round. Out of a pistol. Loaded with the right powder and it is a very good.

We were discussing the 32 mag and 32-20 and 30 carbine. 30 carbine, hands down for what he wants IMHO... He mentioned some thing about a Ruger also as I remember in a 30 cal.

Tidbit for you:

A standard .30 caliber ball round weighs 110 grains (7.1 g) m and has a muzzle velocity of 1,900 ft/s, (580 m/s) giving it 880 foot-pounds (1,190 joules) of energy. By comparison, a .357 Magnum revolver fires the same weight bullet at about 1,300 ft/s (396 m/s) for about 410 foot-pounds (560 J) of energy, though it is important to note that the .357 bullet is larger in diameter (caliber) and is normally an expanding or hollow-point design.

This is a good set of loading for various caliber's:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_cartridge_reloading_data.htm Your mileage may vary.

 

[grimjaw]

CZ 52 is monster in accuracy

Disagree with that statement. The one I have doesn't group as well as my Glock 19. Maybe for a $110 handgun it's acceptably accurate, but printing itty bitty groups hasn't been its forte.

jm

 

[R.W.Dale]

A standard .30 caliber ball round weighs 110 grains (7.1 g) m and has a muzzle velocity of 1,900 ft/s, (580 m/s) giving it 880 foot-pounds (1,190 joules) of energy.

in a rifle not a handgun trim that figure back to 1400 fps for a blackhawk

By comparison, a .357 Magnum revolver fires the same weight bullet at about 1,300 ft/s (396 m/s) for about 410 foot-pounds (560 J) of energy,

that would be a seriously anemic 357 load for a 110grn bullet. 1600 fps with that weight is no problem

 

[eldon519]

Magnum Research makes a .30-30 BFR.