Most Reliable Guns

D.B. Cooper

D.B. Cooper

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No, this is not a Glock post.

I just have to rave for a minute. I have a CMMG drop-in 22 conversion bolt, that has been just incredibly reliable. I'm totally amazed by it. I've been shooting it in a weekly league for going on two years now. 50-75 rounds per week. Every week. I don't think I have cleaned it in...I can't even remember. A year? It's completely filthy. At least a thousand rounds with not one single malfunction of any kind. Weather from 70˚ and rain to 0˚F, and everything in between. I've always run the cheap Federal 36 grain copper plated ammo (per CMMG recommendation.) I probably just jinxed myself, but...1k rounds in a rimfire with no malfunctions?

On a related note, I also run a Beretta 92 in that same league, and haven't cleaned that gun either. At least 1k rounds without a single malfunction. (115 grn Ball ammo.) Again, hope I didn't just jinx myself.

What guns have you owned that far exceeded your expectations for reliability + low/no maintenance?
 
That's great to see a semi-auto rimfire that's reliable like that. I sort of expect the occasional malfunction with my 10/22 or Mark IV.

To answer your question though, a regular old CZ75BD has not malfunctioned once for me, despite sparse cleaning.
 
I can't say that I've let any gun go that long without cleaning. For the most part I clean them after every range session. I do have a CMMG .22 conversion kit but haven't tried it yet. I guess I should give it a try.
 
D.B. Cooper said:
No, this is not a Glock post.

I just have to rave for a minute. I have a CMMG drop-in 22 conversion bolt, that has been just incredibly reliable. I'm totally amazed by it. I've been shooting it in a weekly league for going on two years now. 50-75 rounds per week. Every week. I don't think I have cleaned it in...I can't even remember. A year? It's completely filthy. At least a thousand rounds with not one single malfunction of any kind. Weather from 70˚ and rain to 0˚F, and everything in between. I've always run the cheap Federal 36 grain copper plated ammo (per CMMG recommendation.) I probably just jinxed myself, but...1k rounds in a rimfire with no malfunctions?

On a related note, I also run a Beretta 92 in that same league, and haven't cleaned that gun either. At least 1k rounds without a single malfunction. (115 grn Ball ammo.) Again, hope I didn't just jinx myself.

What guns have you owned that far exceeded your expectations for reliability + low/no maintenance?
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I’ve had pretty much flawless success with my CMMG .22 conversion bolt as well. Mine is in a cheap PSA upper I’ve basically dedicated as my .22 AR. And accuracy is acceptable (minute of clay pigeon at 75 yards).

Otherwise, I cannot say because this is a “no Glocks allowed” thread..

😂
 
S$W 4506...never a FTF regardless of type or size of ammo, zero issues. Note, these pistols can cycle a magazine full of empty casings.
Never had problems with the 1006, or any of the Smith revolvers either.
Too bad I can't say the same about the finicky Ruger 10/22.
 
Guns I've never had a single misfire with are actually pretty rare, but I've used them for training classes and matches under semi-strenuous conditions:

CZ75 "Accu-Lite" Shadow from the custom shop
HK P30L in 9mm
HK P2000 LEM in 357SIG
HK45

Colt LE6920

IF the world was ending due to the zombie apocalypse I'd grab the HKP30L and the Colt LE6920 and feel pretty well prepared.

Cycle a magazine full of empty cases? HA!

HKs can cycle ammo loaded backwards!

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Most reliable GUNS?
I have to say that I have been lucky with my choices!
My Smith and Wesson revolvers have been really good. Through the years a couple of failures to fire a round of ammo that was ammo related.
My Kimber R7 9mm doesn't like Fiocchi Range Dynamics 115 FMJ. I have not had any problems with other ammo. So is that a Gun Issue or Ammo Issue? I would say yes- BOTH.
My Two Glocks have been excellent, but I don't have enough rounds through them yet.

My XDM compact 45acp has had thousands of rounds through it. It eats everything that I feed it!!! I cannot remember every having a Problem/Issue with it 🤔
It gets the 👍for my most reliable semiautomatic I own or ever have owned...
 
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I have a CMMG 22 conversion kit that has never had a problem. I have an early Ruger SR22 that only stops with a dud round. It is a 22 and only gets cleaned when the wax buildup gets needs removed. In fact the only guns I own they are a little fiddly are a couple of lever actions. The Henry 22 needs the ever operated quickly or it will stand the cartridge on end instead of feeding it into the barrel. My Rossi 92 in 357 sometimes requires jiggling the lever a little with 357 cartridges but never with 38 special loads.
 
Hammerli 215 belonging to a friend of mine - he got it used and only after finding the user manual for it he found out, that there's a trigger adjustment screw buried underneath the filth... The gun worked without any problems despite the fact, that it's last cleaning was when he was in the kindergarten.
 
I clean my guns after shooting them. Because I want to sleep without nightmares of my ROTC instructors getting in my face.

The most fouled guns I ever shot were my Ruger Old Army percussion revolvers, a Uberti 1873 lever rifle, and a Browning side-by-side shotgun in a one day 7 stage cowboy action match, with black powder loads on each stage. (35 shots with each of 2 revolvers, 70 rounds in the rifle, 30 rounds in the shotgun with no cleaning between stages.)

I suspect one could shoot those guns indefinitely with smokeless powder loads.
 
My Ruger Marks and S&W 422s are pretty darn reliable for .22 autos- still get the occasional jam.

My Colt .22 AR bolt conversion runs well now, but took awhile to get set up properly.

Never had a JAM with a Beretta 92- but I have seen them broken and gummed up solid.

Now that I think about it, I'd have to think hard about the last time I had a 9mm anything jam......
 
Everything has an issue of some sort sooner or later, or you havent shot it enough to know.

From personal experience, pretty much all my 22's have been pretty finicky to some extent, and that only got worse the dirtier they got. Didnt matter what the gun was either. My centerfire guns have always been a lot more reliable and less trouble. Everything is more reliable when cleaned and maintained too.

Personally, I think youre a moron if you dont clean/maintain your stuff, but thats just me. Your stuff, do what you want. If youre using or counting on any of those guns for anything serious, you've graduated to way dumber than a moron. ;)
 
Hokkmike said:
A little odd to brag about NOT cleaning a gun. Why NOT?
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W.E.G. said:
Depends on what the purpose of the gun is.

Dirt-ordinary guns used only for plinking need to be lubricated occasionally. Full-on cleaning really is a waste of time.
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trackskippy said:
Everything has an issue of some sort sooner or later, or you havent shot it enough to know.

From personal experience, pretty much all my 22's have been pretty finicky to some extent, and that only got worse the dirtier they got. Didnt matter what the gun was either. My centerfire guns have always been a lot more reliable and less trouble. Everything is more reliable when cleaned and maintained too.

Personally, I think youre a moron if you dont clean/maintain your stuff, but thats just me. Your stuff, do what you want. If youre using or counting on any of those guns for anything serious, you've graduated to way dumber than a moron. ;)
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I just compete with them in a club-level, non sanctioned USPSA weekly match. At this point, it has jst become an experiment.
 
Most reliable semi-auto gun?

Wouldn’t an unreliable revolver or bolt-action rifle simply be broken?

Otherwise, in no particular order:

CZ 75BD
CZ P-01
Colt 1911
Yugo AK
Bulgarian Mak
Beretta 92 S
 
jdc1244 said:
Most reliable semi-auto gun?

Wouldn’t an unreliable revolver or bolt-action rifle simply be broken?

Otherwise, in no particular order:

CZ 75BD
CZ P-01
Colt 1911
Yugo AK
Bulgarian Mak
Beretta 92 S
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Yeah. Sort of.

I didn't specify, but, when I made the topic, I was thinking autoloaders. Although, you can jam up a revolver without it being broken. Let a bunch of unburnt powder, or dirt and crud get under the extractor star, or, shoot enough specials without cleaning it, such that you get a heavy powder ring inside the cylinder, and you won't be able to close the cylinder, or, if you do, it won't turn. (I mean, don't ask me how I know. lol.)
 
D.B. Cooper said:
I used to clean them every trip to the range, but I was going tot he range 2-3 times per week, and I was spending hours cleaning every time. It just got old. Especially when I was running a revolver.
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What’s the best and worst that can happen cleaning every time? It appears one ends up with clean guns and an ignorant attitude that people that don’t are idiots.

And the contrary to frequent cleaning? It appears one ends up with uncommon and real knowledge about their guns and ammo.
 
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