Most Reliable Guns

[tws3b2]

Thats just it, with some of the revolver malfunctions, you arent just "pulling the trigger" again, as you cant. And youre dead in the water at that point with no real fix available to you, until you get somewhere to take care of it.

With any of them, what you likely know, is simply based on what youve learned from shooting them. You constantly hear this or that is 100% reliable, but what is that based on? One person shooting the gun 100 rounds once or twice a year? Or someone else shooting 100 rounds out of it a couple of times a week, every week? Youre likely to get two very different answers there. Neither are really wrong, but one is more right.

Apples to oranges. Oranges to apples.
If it's broke, it's broke. Revolver or semi. Same for each.
Fail to load, fail to feed, fail to eject, mag. failure, ammo sensitive.
Nothing is 100% failure proof.
Add them up. Tit for tat. Tat for tit. I own them both. I shoot them both. Nothing to lose. Nothing to gain. Over 60 years of experience with both has taught me what I know. Last word.

 

[trackskippy]

What you seem to be missing here is the difference between the two when there is a problem. Most all of the stoppages with the autos are quickly remedied. The revolvers, not so much.

Ive got pretty much the same amount of time in as you, and it seems we both have completely different experiences.

 

[Old Hobo]

Reliable guns? OK

German 88 cannon

American M1 Howitzer, 240mm

"This is my rifle, this is my gun, this one's for ..."

 

[D.B. Cooper]

Only if something "breaks."

I'm a revolver guy at heart, but I would have to disagree. Even something as simple as as a spent case jumping the extractor star will shut down a revolver until you can find a pencil or something to push it out.

 

[Buzznrose]

These days, I expect every & any new Walther, Glock, HK, CZ, S&W, Springfield, Ruger, FN, Beretta, and Sig plastic striker fire gun will work flawlessly right out of the box 99.9% of the time.

The main reason any of these guns won’t work is pretty much ammo or magazine driven.

The odd duck that isn’t reliable should be sent back and dealt with by the company. Too many good options out there to waste time with something that won’t work.

Just how I see it.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

It finally happened. I must have jinxed myself by starting this discussion. I shot this week's match, and the last about 4-5 rounds, at the end of a 52-target course, all malfunctioned. All 4-5 right in a row, all in the exact same manner. The slide was halfway back, and you could see the nose of the bullet partly into the breech with the gun (Beretta 92FS/M9) way out of battery.

So I guess this ends my experiment. 50-75 rounds per week for at least a year. No maintenance. No cleaning. No lubrication. (I used CLP Break-Free the last time I cleaned it.) No malfunctions until today. So, tomorrow, I'll give it a good, thorough cleaning and lubrication, and I'll continue to do so going forward.

On a side note, the CMMG drop-in conversion bolt is still running along fine.

 

[Hole maker]

No, this is not a Glock post.

I just have to rave for a minute. I have a CMMG drop-in 22 conversion bolt, that has been just incredibly reliable. I'm totally amazed by it. I've been shooting it in a weekly league for going on two years now. 50-75 rounds per week. Every week. I don't think I have cleaned it in...I can't even remember. A year? It's completely filthy. At least a thousand rounds with not one single malfunction of any kind. Weather from 70˚ and rain to 0˚F, and everything in between. I've always run the cheap Federal 36 grain copper plated ammo (per CMMG recommendation.) I probably just jinxed myself, but...1k rounds in a rimfire with no malfunctions?

On a related note, I also run a Beretta 92 in that same league, and haven't cleaned that gun either. At least 1k rounds without a single malfunction. (115 grn Ball ammo.) Again, hope I didn't just jinx myself.

What guns have you owned that far exceeded your expectations for reliability + low/no maintenance?

You posted Most reliable guns, so here it is Security Six Stainless 4" 357mag made in 1975! it goes off every time, Ron.

 

[Big-bore-bob]

Sig p229 elite, 1645 rnds no malfunction. Sig p226 legion 2811 rnds no malfunction. Sig 1911 emperor scorpion 2125 rnds no malfunction. Hk usp 45 standard 3389 rnds no malfunction. I clean after every range trip though. I've had a few malfunctions with my other guns but it was ammo related...

 

[D.B. Cooper]

You posted Most reliable guns, so here it is Security Six Stainless 4" 357mag made in 1975! it goes off every time, Ron.

I had the exact same gun once. Sold it decades ago. I cry myself to sleep now. Great gun.

 

[PistoleroWadcutterGANG]

I, kinda have something similar. Honestly can't ever remember having a single thing / Opps! EVER with my Ruger Security six or Speed. Even with what I call good quality production ammo. (Mostly handloads in its life). everyone should have a trusted friend. Sounds like you rimmies pretty awesome, congrats

 

[dobedo]

I would say bolt actions, revolvers and lever actions. All though a guy at the range was shooting a 30/06 M77 Rugar and his rounds were not going off. He said the gun was about 45 years old. One guy told him he needs a new spring for the bolt firing pin. I told him take the bolt and soak it in kerosene overnight wipe it down and use a light oil on it. I gave him my # and he texted me that the kerosene was pretty dirty and that when to the range the bolt performed flawlessly.

 

[chiefs-special-guy]

I have never had a failure of any sort with my M36 S&W 38 special. I do clean it periodically, however. I have maybe 50k+ through my Browning Citori clays gun without any sort of failure aside from a few bad cartridges with low primers. I also clean it. They deserve cleaning I think! Pic of the Smith

 

[Old Dog]

I just remembered that we have a Makarov (in .380, an IJ70 by Izhevskii Mechanicheskii Zavod) that the wife bought in an Ace Hardware store around 1994 that has been spectacularly reliable (zero malfunctions, ever) and is quite accurate. Those dang Russsians, go figure...

 

[D.B. Cooper]

I figured out why the Beretta failed to go into battery. The feed ramp was caked in soot/powder residue with a small nick, right in the center bottom that went to the polished chrome. Must have created just enough friction to overcome the spring pressure on the slide. Guess I need a strange recoil spring. LOL.

 

[Buzznrose]

Chuck Taylor’s article on his reliable gun:

Glock 17 Survives 18-Year, 250,000-Round Torture Test Including 6 Months in Ocean

The following Glock torture test piece was written in 2007. It's been sitting in our archives and we thought it

www.athlonoutdoors.com

 

[HighRoadRover]

Two P320's - flawless, thousands of rounds.

1911s? The SFT9 has been flawless but round count is only a couple hundred. DW Valor 9mm has been great but has had a few Failure to Feed and double-feeds -- can say it is good for a 1911, but not as good as the P320s.

The response from a true 1911 guy when a 1911 has a failure to feed or extract is: "a proper 1911 operator clears them so fast that firing is uninterrupted and he cannot recall afterwards that they happened".

 

[D.B. Cooper]

Chuck Taylor’s article on his reliable gun:

Glock 17 Survives 18-Year, 250,000-Round Torture Test Including 6 Months in Ocean

The following Glock torture test piece was written in 2007. It's been sitting in our archives and we thought it

www.athlonoutdoors.com

Interesting article. 10k rounds without cleaning. However, I find the claim of a 750-round function test -40˚F dubious. According to the author, this was done in Kenai, AK. I've live not far from there for the past 18 years. In that time, the coldest I've ever experienced was -35˚F for ONE night. In eighteen winters. (JINX!) So, I have to question the veracity of that claim. Furthermore, there is no author attributed to the article, so I have to ask what else was exaggerated.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

The response from a true 1911 guy when a 1911 has a failure to feed or extract is: "a proper 1911 operator clears them so fast that firing is uninterrupted and he cannot recall afterwards that they happened".

Stand-up comedy at its best.

 

[Buzznrose]

Interesting article. 10k rounds without cleaning. However, I find the claim of a 750-round function test -40˚F dubious. According to the author, this was done in Kenai, AK. I've live not far from there for the past 18 years. In that time, the coldest I've ever experienced was -35˚F for ONE night. In eighteen winters. (JINX!) So, I have to question the veracity of that claim. Furthermore, there is no author attributed to the article, so I have to ask what else was exaggerated.

I’m not sure why his name is missing, but this story is pretty famous. The author is/was Chuck Taylor

Chuck's Glock Takes A Salt Water Bath. - Free Online Library

Free Online Library: Chuck's Glock Takes A Salt Water Bath. by "Handguns"; Sports, sporting goods and toys industry Sport, sporting goods and toys industry

www.thefreelibrary.com

A story about him after his passing by Massad Ayoob. I’m not sure why he is not named the author…

R.I.P. CHUCK TAYLOR |

I do understand your question on the temp in AK…I lived 8 years at Eielson AFB and never heard of 40 below south of Anchorage.