No Quarter
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Bond Arms Texas Defender Derringer in .45 colt/.410 -
Range results after several hundred rounds of practice and learning the trigger...
RBCD ammo - 120 grain bullet at 2000 fps - Made specially for Bond Arms short barrel derringers. All shots dead center to POA horizontally and vertically 7-10 yards - both barrels print within 3 inches of each other consistantly.
.410 000 buck - Dead Centered to POA "pattern" about 4-5" across of three nice holes in the target at about 7-10 yards. Shot pattern is arranged diagonally across the 10 ring.
Would absolutely tear the living hell out of a human being's chest.
255 .45 colt, LRN - little bit less accurate than the RBCD ammo. this gun lacks the rifling to really atabilize a heavy bullet. The rounds would still hit the target everytime, but some rounds were keyholing a bit. Lighter bullets like Silvertips work better and don't keyhole - of course with a big ol' .45 round, keyholing can't be bad for whatever you'd use this pistol for defensively.
I have shot milk jugs full of water with the RBCD stuff and it obliterates them. I've also done the same with watermelons and got explosive results. .45 colt LRN and buckshot also put a seriously hurt on phonebooks and water jugs.
I do not have a chrony, but would suggest that the RBCD stuff is really smoking out of that short little barrel. The buckshot zooms along well enough as well. I 've shot the 255 grain stuff into dried out and tough-as nails fence posts and it zooms right through with no trouble at all. Blows big chunks of wood everywhere.
Recoil is invigorating but not uncontrollable! Gun does have some thump to it, but nothing you can't handle if you've shot .44 mags. Follwup shots are not a problem.
So - my not so technical review of a firearm that most consider obsolete and difficult to use. FWIW, I do a lot of shooting for practical purposes - Actually drawing the weapon and firing as quickly as I can. I can draw this weapon from my pocket, cock it on the way up to firing position, and get a round off as fast as any pocket pistol I've ever owned. I can also "point shoot" this weapon without a real sight picture and hit my target everytime. Unlike my ADC derringer, this gun is easy to cock with one hand. With a two hand hold, it's also easy to get the second round off very quickly. I carry it everday in an Uncle Mikes Pocket Holster and it carries very well.
It is dead reliable and, after I have taken the time to practice with it, has proven to be minute-of-bad guy's-chest accurate.
Limited in capacity and not so fast to reload, but a compromise I have decided to take based upon the relative increase in power over the standard mousegun calibers. I carry it as a backup or primary depending on dress and feel COMPLETELY competant and confident in it and my ability to use it if necessary.
No Quarter
Range results after several hundred rounds of practice and learning the trigger...
RBCD ammo - 120 grain bullet at 2000 fps - Made specially for Bond Arms short barrel derringers. All shots dead center to POA horizontally and vertically 7-10 yards - both barrels print within 3 inches of each other consistantly.
.410 000 buck - Dead Centered to POA "pattern" about 4-5" across of three nice holes in the target at about 7-10 yards. Shot pattern is arranged diagonally across the 10 ring.
Would absolutely tear the living hell out of a human being's chest.
255 .45 colt, LRN - little bit less accurate than the RBCD ammo. this gun lacks the rifling to really atabilize a heavy bullet. The rounds would still hit the target everytime, but some rounds were keyholing a bit. Lighter bullets like Silvertips work better and don't keyhole - of course with a big ol' .45 round, keyholing can't be bad for whatever you'd use this pistol for defensively.
I have shot milk jugs full of water with the RBCD stuff and it obliterates them. I've also done the same with watermelons and got explosive results. .45 colt LRN and buckshot also put a seriously hurt on phonebooks and water jugs.
I do not have a chrony, but would suggest that the RBCD stuff is really smoking out of that short little barrel. The buckshot zooms along well enough as well. I 've shot the 255 grain stuff into dried out and tough-as nails fence posts and it zooms right through with no trouble at all. Blows big chunks of wood everywhere.
Recoil is invigorating but not uncontrollable! Gun does have some thump to it, but nothing you can't handle if you've shot .44 mags. Follwup shots are not a problem.
So - my not so technical review of a firearm that most consider obsolete and difficult to use. FWIW, I do a lot of shooting for practical purposes - Actually drawing the weapon and firing as quickly as I can. I can draw this weapon from my pocket, cock it on the way up to firing position, and get a round off as fast as any pocket pistol I've ever owned. I can also "point shoot" this weapon without a real sight picture and hit my target everytime. Unlike my ADC derringer, this gun is easy to cock with one hand. With a two hand hold, it's also easy to get the second round off very quickly. I carry it everday in an Uncle Mikes Pocket Holster and it carries very well.
It is dead reliable and, after I have taken the time to practice with it, has proven to be minute-of-bad guy's-chest accurate.
Limited in capacity and not so fast to reload, but a compromise I have decided to take based upon the relative increase in power over the standard mousegun calibers. I carry it as a backup or primary depending on dress and feel COMPLETELY competant and confident in it and my ability to use it if necessary.
No Quarter
double barrel something. Trisha is tough! She PRACTICES with it!
