Movie Pet Peeves
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saspic
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Because water flows downhill? Lots of modern cities are on rivers since, way back when the first people thought, "This would be a good place for a village," they needed drinking water.
As far as those knifes constantly "shiiiing"ing in the air, Roger Ebert has an entry about that in his movie glossary with "special" laws that only happen in films. http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=GLOSSARY
Here's a couple more: Magic Bullets
If someone is firing a machine gun at someone's upper body, any bullets which do not hit them will make a ninety-degree turn in the plane of their body and kick up dust at their feet. BRANNON MOORE Seattle, WA
Who got shot?
When two characters struggle for a gun, one shot will go off. Then nobody moves for a few seconds, and we can't tell which one got shot. Finally, one character dramatically drops dead.
TIM ZABLOCKI, HACKETTSTOWN, N.J.
saspic
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Hey, I found it!
Ca-Chuck! Rule
All movie guns will need to be "cocked" before firing, and the sound made is always the "ca-chuck" sound made by a pump shotgun. Bad guys will never cock their guns until the last instant before firing at the good guys, and the ca-chuck sound will always alert the good guys in time for them to duck. In some movies, such as "Runaway," this rule even applies to revolvers. Tom Helderman, Grand Rapids, Mich. (Published: 4/4/04)
Ca-Chuck! Rule
All movie guns will need to be "cocked" before firing, and the sound made is always the "ca-chuck" sound made by a pump shotgun. Bad guys will never cock their guns until the last instant before firing at the good guys, and the ca-chuck sound will always alert the good guys in time for them to duck. In some movies, such as "Runaway," this rule even applies to revolvers. Tom Helderman, Grand Rapids, Mich. (Published: 4/4/04)
Unsafe gun-handling by characters who should know better.
In one of the recent James Bond films, Bond (Pierce Brosnan) goes into the back room of a casino to have a meeting with some mafia-type (Robbie Coltrane).
Coltrane is surrounded by concubines. Bond gestures for them to leave by waving his gun at them (with his finger on the trigger).
Effective/uneffective cover:
A car door provides inpenetrable protection against gun-fire.
Yet a few shots fired into the rear of a car will cause it to explode.
And of course, its impossible to hit someone running up a ladder or along a metal walkway. (Presumably whatever they coat the metal with to cause all the sparks also attracts bullets).
And since several people brought up Starwars:
High-tech sci-fi blaster weapons that have inferior range, power and accuracy to present-day firearms.
Then there's the Startrek modification to gun safety: "Never point a gun at anything you are not willing to destroy. Unless they are annoying you, and its set to stun".
In one of the recent James Bond films, Bond (Pierce Brosnan) goes into the back room of a casino to have a meeting with some mafia-type (Robbie Coltrane).
Coltrane is surrounded by concubines. Bond gestures for them to leave by waving his gun at them (with his finger on the trigger).
Effective/uneffective cover:
A car door provides inpenetrable protection against gun-fire.
Yet a few shots fired into the rear of a car will cause it to explode.
And of course, its impossible to hit someone running up a ladder or along a metal walkway. (Presumably whatever they coat the metal with to cause all the sparks also attracts bullets).
And since several people brought up Starwars:
High-tech sci-fi blaster weapons that have inferior range, power and accuracy to present-day firearms.
Then there's the Startrek modification to gun safety: "Never point a gun at anything you are not willing to destroy. Unless they are annoying you, and its set to stun".
Lo.Com.Denom
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But that's what concubines are for ! If you accidentally shoot one, you've at least got some spare! 
For me, if a movie starts out with realistic gun-usage, then degenerates towards the end - that's worse. Why, at the end of "Way Of The Gun" does matey start hosing down the walls with automatic fire? And, IIRC, with one of those bottomless-magazines? Doesn't he want all that ammo?
For me, if a movie starts out with realistic gun-usage, then degenerates towards the end - that's worse. Why, at the end of "Way Of The Gun" does matey start hosing down the walls with automatic fire? And, IIRC, with one of those bottomless-magazines? Doesn't he want all that ammo?
Tears of the Sun
Jsut watched it again- overall a VERY good movie---
Pluses---for the most part they got the gun stuff pretty much right---Guns sound the way they should-- m-16s sound like M-16s, AKs sound like AKs---suppressed pistols/rifles make the right sounds (meaning you can hear the actions working, not just a pfffft like they usually use)...
Minuses--all come during the big firefight at the end---While Bruce Willis and the other Seals have all been armed with Berrettas (as should be)throughout the movie, at one point he clearly draws a Glock...Two of the guys have scoped M16s thoughout the movie, but all of a sudden, one has a scoped M-14(M24)...And the squad fires AT LEAST 3000 rounds in the firefight, but we never see any extra magazines, being carried (we'll forgive the fact that they never show anyone reloading, we'll assumethat's all done off-camera). The SAW gunner alone probably fires several hundred rounds.....
Oh well,if you don't sweat the details, its a very good movie, highly recommended
Jsut watched it again- overall a VERY good movie---
Pluses---for the most part they got the gun stuff pretty much right---Guns sound the way they should-- m-16s sound like M-16s, AKs sound like AKs---suppressed pistols/rifles make the right sounds (meaning you can hear the actions working, not just a pfffft like they usually use)...
Minuses--all come during the big firefight at the end---While Bruce Willis and the other Seals have all been armed with Berrettas (as should be)throughout the movie, at one point he clearly draws a Glock...Two of the guys have scoped M16s thoughout the movie, but all of a sudden, one has a scoped M-14(M24)...And the squad fires AT LEAST 3000 rounds in the firefight, but we never see any extra magazines, being carried (we'll forgive the fact that they never show anyone reloading, we'll assumethat's all done off-camera). The SAW gunner alone probably fires several hundred rounds.....
Oh well,if you don't sweat the details, its a very good movie, highly recommended
Balog
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Couple points about Private Ryan.
The issued scopes were supposed to retain zero after removal and reinstallation. Dunno how well they worked, but that was the theory.
You might be surprised how much it takes to melt a barrel. As I recall it didn't show any egregiously long bursts, but it's been awhile since I've seen it.
The issued scopes were supposed to retain zero after removal and reinstallation. Dunno how well they worked, but that was the theory.
You might be surprised how much it takes to melt a barrel. As I recall it didn't show any egregiously long bursts, but it's been awhile since I've seen it.
ZenMasterJG
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my favorite is when you see them rack the slide when they're about to get into a firefight or somthing, and then 45 seconds later thumb the hammer back to add emphasis, as in the original example.
mbs357
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What erks me the most is when they research so many other things so heavily, but forget about the guns.
They do this in games too.
They do this in games too.
If you know your opponent is on the other side of a wall but you don't know exactly where he is, you're not just going to fire a couple of shots and hope you get lucky. While they do seem to go over the round count a little, it's not that bad. In the first burst, he fires off what sounds like ~20 rounds to me, then there is an pause of several seconds while they show the hallway before he resumes firing. The next burst does sound like it goes over a little, maybe ~30 rounds. But with all of the editing and switching back and forth between the room and the hall, they are probably duplicating shots. He then changes the mag and fires of another ~30 shots (with lots more cutting back and forth) before he runs dry.
As for the rifle vs pistol scene, I thought that was very well done. Jeffers and Oberks are both highly trained and would have no problem returning fire at ~100 yards. They are even holding their pistols at the high angle needed to get that kind of range.
beaucoup ammo
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Good Fire Fight Potential Here
I received 8 tickets to an advance screening next Wednesday of "Domino...I Am A Bounty Hunter."
Mickey Rourke, Lucy Liu, Christopher Walken, etc...with the shows on the tube, this was bound to come down the pike.
Poster on the tickets has weapons aplenty!! Who knows..but it's free.
The wife and I can't go. If you live in SA and want to attend (281 & 1604) let me know...I'll get 'em to you.
Take Care
I received 8 tickets to an advance screening next Wednesday of "Domino...I Am A Bounty Hunter."
Mickey Rourke, Lucy Liu, Christopher Walken, etc...with the shows on the tube, this was bound to come down the pike.
Poster on the tickets has weapons aplenty!! Who knows..but it's free.
The wife and I can't go. If you live in SA and want to attend (281 & 1604) let me know...I'll get 'em to you.
Take Care
Phyphor
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Or worse,
when they just flick the damned revolver closed! Can we say "bent crane?" I knew we could!
when they just flick the damned revolver closed! Can we say "bent crane?" I knew we could!
Working Man
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The thing that really bothered me in "Way Of The Gun" was the 50 foot shot
by the father at the end with the 2" snubby.
I whole-heartedly agree.
by the father at the end with the 2" snubby.
I whole-heartedly agree.
my biggest pet peeve is on the show Wildest police chases on spike tv. I hate the narrator, but I really hate how you can hear sirens wail and tires screech when they are showing video from a helicopter! That and the editing they do to make it appear as if the police always catch the bad guy. There is a video of a BMW chase where the kids get away but the show makes it appear as though they are caught.
When movie actors get shot, they either die instantly or the suffer in silence until they get to make their final speech. They don't yell or scream in pain or flop around. Also, how did they manage to shoot a 6-gun while galloping a horse at full speed while pointing the gun to the rear and hit 2 Indians with every shot?
beaucoup ammo
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The Answer Is Obvious!
It was the extra "push" they gave the shooter..like throwing a baseball! Gives you that extra speed and accuracy!
Bill..TV underestimates the intelligence of their viewers..a sad commentary on how "they" view "us."
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It was the extra "push" they gave the shooter..like throwing a baseball! Gives you that extra speed and accuracy!
Bill..TV underestimates the intelligence of their viewers..a sad commentary on how "they" view "us."
Take Care
Dirty Bob
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Balog noted:
Re: the MG: I shouldn't have said "melt" What I meant was that the German gunners (was that an MG-42?) on D-Day were firing hellaciously long bursts at the landing craft. My commanding officer on the FFG I served on once did something similar -- playing Rambo on the bridge wing with an M-60, with belts linked together -- and the gunner's mates had to retire the barrel when he was done. :banghead:
Benicio's "mad minute" with the Galil in "Way of the Gun" seemed out of character, considering that "Parker" and "Longbaugh" had been competent with guns up to that point. I do love the scene where the bagman's foot is exposed at the corner, so they shoot the foot!
All my best,
Dirty Bob
I didn't know about the scopes, but would a sniper carry more than one and switch back and forth during a mission? If anything, I would have expected one to be carefully stored as a spare, and the other one left on the gun once a zero had been verified. Confused...
Re: the MG: I shouldn't have said "melt" What I meant was that the German gunners (was that an MG-42?) on D-Day were firing hellaciously long bursts at the landing craft. My commanding officer on the FFG I served on once did something similar -- playing Rambo on the bridge wing with an M-60, with belts linked together -- and the gunner's mates had to retire the barrel when he was done. :banghead:
Benicio's "mad minute" with the Galil in "Way of the Gun" seemed out of character, considering that "Parker" and "Longbaugh" had been competent with guns up to that point. I do love the scene where the bagman's foot is exposed at the corner, so they shoot the foot!
All my best,
Dirty Bob
The guns with unlimited ammo always trip me out. I'd love to have one of those.
A situation close to the original post happens in one of my favorite movies, though.
In John Carpenter's 1982 remake of "The Thing", a revolver of some type gets passed back and forth between the characters over the course of the film. Kurt Russel's character, MacReady, ends up with it. In scene involving a confrontation with several of the characters, Keith David's character, Childs, says, "He (referring to MacReady) ain't tying me up."
"Then I'll have to kill you Childs," says MacReady.
Childs responds, "Then kill me."
MacReady first points the gun at Childs at very close range and says, "I mean it." When Childs doesn't immediately back down, MacReady cocks the hammer on the revolver. After a few seconds, Childs swallows meaningfully and says, "I guess you do."
Immediately following this, Richard Masur's character, Clark, tries to rush MacReady from a different angle with a scalpel, and gets the shot to the forehead. Another lesson on why you shouldn't bring a knife to a gun fight.
I've never been able to tell what kind of revolver it is. Something like a S&W or a Colt, .357 or up. There's also a G3 type rifle wielded by a strung out Norwegian at the first of the film.
jmm
A situation close to the original post happens in one of my favorite movies, though.
In John Carpenter's 1982 remake of "The Thing", a revolver of some type gets passed back and forth between the characters over the course of the film. Kurt Russel's character, MacReady, ends up with it. In scene involving a confrontation with several of the characters, Keith David's character, Childs, says, "He (referring to MacReady) ain't tying me up."
"Then I'll have to kill you Childs," says MacReady.
Childs responds, "Then kill me."
MacReady first points the gun at Childs at very close range and says, "I mean it." When Childs doesn't immediately back down, MacReady cocks the hammer on the revolver. After a few seconds, Childs swallows meaningfully and says, "I guess you do."
Immediately following this, Richard Masur's character, Clark, tries to rush MacReady from a different angle with a scalpel, and gets the shot to the forehead. Another lesson on why you shouldn't bring a knife to a gun fight.
I've never been able to tell what kind of revolver it is. Something like a S&W or a Colt, .357 or up. There's also a G3 type rifle wielded by a strung out Norwegian at the first of the film.
jmm
wolf_from_wv
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Shredders... Police and DEA use them to blow locks. They explode on impact and kill everything in a ten foot radius...
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That doesn't sound to me like something I would want to shoot out of a shotgun... What happens if, "Oops, someone stop that before it rolls off the table..."? Maybe everyone else used them, and that is why he was "the last boyscout"...
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That doesn't sound to me like something I would want to shoot out of a shotgun... What happens if, "Oops, someone stop that before it rolls off the table..."? Maybe everyone else used them, and that is why he was "the last boyscout"...
RRTX
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That wasn't a glock, it was the HK Mk23/SOCOM that he had throughout the movie, a couple of the other guys had them too. Same goes for the guy with the M-14, he had it the entire time..remember he shoots the guy with the tracking device with it earlier in the movie. One more major mistake is that at least one of them has their aimpoint mounted backwards through part of the movie lol.
"In the old westerns I always got a kick out the way a guy would use the arm action of throwing a baseball when he fired the six shooter..maybe help that round get there faster! :O)"
I read in a film history that William S. Hart, who had been a real cowboy, would fire like that. All the other western actors who watched him figured, 'if that's the way they did it back then, that's the way we'll do it.' And so they did.
At least that's the story.
zastros
I read in a film history that William S. Hart, who had been a real cowboy, would fire like that. All the other western actors who watched him figured, 'if that's the way they did it back then, that's the way we'll do it.' And so they did.
At least that's the story.
zastros
Another one I just noticed while watching TV last night. What is up with these 'stealthy snipers' who want to assassinate somebody... then use a big red laser on their rifle?? I mean sheesh. Lasers are for fast target aquisition. Is it so hard to look down the scope and actually use the reticle? Did we not think that we might be giving our intentions away by putting a red dot on somebody right before we try and kill them?
Heh, it's just so dumb. Unless I'm missing something 'tactical' about it.
Heh, it's just so dumb. Unless I'm missing something 'tactical' about it.
MuzzleBlast
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Noisy horses.
Horses are very quiet animals. They only whinny when they are trying to locate each other, and nicker when they are greeting. If they really did make as much noise as they do in the movies, they would be very annoying to be around.
Horses are very quiet animals. They only whinny when they are trying to locate each other, and nicker when they are greeting. If they really did make as much noise as they do in the movies, they would be very annoying to be around.
mustanger98
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MuzzleBlast:
I understand horses will whinny when other horses, unknown/unidentified to them, are present. I recall in a Charles M. Russell painting there are these mountain men hiding down over a cliff trying to keep their horses from whinnying and giving them away. Or, and I know this being a horse guy, they'll whinny when they'd rather be in another pasture/lot with other horses they know are there. Some real cowboys on here can probably tell you about the reality of weaning time on a working horse/cow ranch too. That said, movies get editted to the point of being real annoying animalwise.
I haven't read that so I don't know, but I've done a little instinctive shooting and that ain't how it's done.
I understand horses will whinny when other horses, unknown/unidentified to them, are present. I recall in a Charles M. Russell painting there are these mountain men hiding down over a cliff trying to keep their horses from whinnying and giving them away. Or, and I know this being a horse guy, they'll whinny when they'd rather be in another pasture/lot with other horses they know are there. Some real cowboys on here can probably tell you about the reality of weaning time on a working horse/cow ranch too. That said, movies get editted to the point of being real annoying animalwise.
I haven't read that so I don't know, but I've done a little instinctive shooting and that ain't how it's done.
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