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MR73, strengths and drawbacks

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Orkanen, Sep 1, 2019.

  1. PzGren

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    Nill is, of course, offering grips for the in Germany quite common MR 73. On a side note, Korth revolvers are also very common in Germany. Back in 1969 the Hebsacker catalogue listed the Korth Sport at DM 569 in .22 l.r., while the Colt OMM in .22 l.r. was listed at DM 742 and the S&W Masterpiece / M17 at DM 533.

    On another sidenote, a guy in France had offered these original Manurhin 73 grips in Germany a while ago for 55 Euro plus shipping. He also has a lot of other parts.

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  2. Orkanen

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    I check Ebay now and then, but no luck finding stuff like that. Got other sources?
     
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    Send me a PM or email and I will let you know the contact info of the French vendor.
     
  4. bc1023

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    Well if you want one of the best revolvers in the world, it’s not going to be cheap. :)
     
  5. Orkanen

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    I found an affordable one here.
     
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  6. Apuesto

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    Which holsters work the best for a manurhin MR73? I found my S&W L frame holsters are a little loose and the K frame holsters too tight.
     
  7. Orkanen

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    I have a holster from Akah called "Top Gun". It's made for K frames but fit is good. They seem to sell everything a hunter needs, and then some. Perhaps getting it new and wearing it in made a difference? You'll probably have to bring the gun with you when trying holsters. I bought mine with the gun.
     
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    FWIW, some of the low cost beater MR73s available were used by cops in Africa.
     
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    That price is very good. The Manurhin PP Sport was developed out of the Walther PP and came in two different barrel lengths and with different attachments. They are good entry level match pistols and very good plinkers, not even the Single Action Only version have a trigger that comes close to real match pistols, like the Hammerli International. A spare mag with the extension is worth northward of $130.

    Their quality is good and the guns are accurate. I have a few of them, short and long versions.
     
  11. Apuesto

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    New to me, surplus 4" Manurhin. I found some "home made" grips on ebay. To my eye they really suit the gun and look much nicer than the rubber grips that came with the gun. manurhin 4.jpg
     
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  12. Orkanen

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    Is comfort of grip also acceptable while shooting fully loaded Magnums?
     
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  13. PzGren

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    I doubt that. I really like the old Korth grips that were used from 1969 on and had been manufactured by Nill, who had opened shop that year. However, when I use my .357 Magnum reloads with the Korth Extra ammo, they are punishing and I use bigger Nills.

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  14. Orkanen

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    This is also why I still haven't replaced my Trausch grip. It may not be good looking but it's still a good grip.
     
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    When we go the extra mile and buy a premium revolver, we shouldn't do it for looks but for performance. Trausch grips may look "funky" and ride up your shirt when you carry concealed but they perform.
     
  16. Apuesto

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    I’ll answer it like this, I’m asking the gentleman to make me another set for my 5 1/4” barrel MR73 and throwing out the Trausch grips.

    I think it depends on your shooting technique - I like to hold a gun gently, two handed grip, and let the gun roll in my hand under recoil. I don’t like the Trausch grips as they do not allow me to shoot like that.
     
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  17. Orkanen

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    I'll certainly have to look into that. I've never really understood why early revolvers have such small grips to begin with.
     
  18. Orkanen

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    It seems Apuesto has found someone who makes grips worth while.
    PzGren may have a good source on that regard, at least on the patridge sight.
     
  19. Apuesto

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    LOL, we must have posted at the same time.

    I cannot help but remember that I had a similar comment from the BMW motorcycle forum when I changed my handlebars! I think like handlebars on a motorcycle, the effectiveness of grips on a handgun is really dependent on both physical features (size of hands) and shooting style of the shooter. I took a friend who does cowboy shooting with me to the range to let him shoot my Manurins. He was very impressed by the revolver but also didn't like the grips. But I'm sure the guys of GIGN like them.

    Generally I like smaller grips that are hard and smooth. I avoid grips with and aggressive checkering. I normally cover such checkering with a clear layer of varnish. But I'm pretty sure there are many many people who won't like what I like.

    Ps. The BMW Motorrad guys are really annoyed with me. I hope you guys won't be! ;)
     
  20. Apuesto

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    If you like your Trausch grip, you may not like the smaller/hard grips. I was taught to let the revolver rotate in my hand under recoil, and was taught to shoot in a Weaver (two handed) stance. I suspect in Europe things are done differently?

    You must get a grip that suit you. If I look at PzGren's picture of the Korths, I think I would prefer shooting with the grip at the bottom. I like that it is smooth and the back is more rounded. The more round the back of the grip, the more I can let it roll in my hand.

    This is a pic of my 500 Linebaugh. Short barrel, no porting. I shoot a 440 grain bullet. Look how round the back of the grip is. If I let it roll in my hand, it doesn't hurt too much! :rofl:

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  21. Orkanen

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    We're taught to hold with a straight arm, 2 fingers around the grip, firmly but not tight, and not apply pressure to the grip with the thumb. If 2 handed grip, second hand fingers wraps around first hand fingers in a push pull manner, elbow slightly angled and shoulder slightly forward. I usually place my index finger on the trigger guard. Shooting with right hand, left foot is placed shoulder distance apart and back at around a 30° angle to right foot, 2 hand grip, right foot is placed half a foot length back from left foot. Magnum shooting is strictly with a 2 hand grip.
    I find shooting .44 Magnums uncomfortable, and according to what you write, most likely because of how I hold the gun. My friend's Blackhawk has, as far as I recall, a smooth grip. I've shot 5 rounds with it, that's it. My adult son also tried it and almost hit his forehead. So for now, I'll stick to my .357, perhaps get myself a smooth grip with no thumb support and try get a hang of what you're talking about. A friend of mine has a beaver tail soldered to his 586 and a rubber grip, which should give you an idea of how we learn to shoot.
     
  22. PzGren

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    That is an interesting technique! I have been a shooting coach for decades but am still learning. I always taught for accuracy to hold a gun with about 60% of your strength to lock the wrists and a little more strength for rapid fire to control recoil and make fast follow up shots possible. Handstrength is important in handgun shooting sport to keep an even hold on the gun. When you look at Miculek, he does not look like a classic athlete but his massive forearms speak of his hand-strength that keeps the revolver like in a vice.
     
  23. Apuesto

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    It's fairly common in the SAA world. SAA grips are designed to allow the revolver to rotate. I started adopting a more gentle grip to save my wrists and then found that my accuracy started improving a lot.

    Obviously, the "gentle" in a gentle grip is a relative term. Your grip must be sufficiently firm to keep control of the firearms, but no white knuckle stuff or fighting the recoil.
     
  24. Orkanen

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    Among the many things people do wrong with larger calibre weapons is compensate for recoil, reducing accuracy immensely. You claim to have fixed that. I'd love to see your technique on slow motion video.
     
  25. Apuesto

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    Ok, but my face and stomach stays hidden! :rofl:

    No, not me. SAA (Single Action Army) revolvers are designed to rotate in your hand. The more gentle the grip, the more they will rotate and not hurt your wrist. Nobody that shoots big calibers will hold onto grip hard.

    Remember, a 460 S&W mag generates 4 times the muzzle energy of a 44 mag. The recoil in my 500 Linebaugh and 500 Wyoming Express feels even worse than a 460 S&W. I kid you not, if you could fit Trausch grips to them you'll severely injure your wrist, if not suffering a fracture. It's like somebody hitting you in the palm with a baseball bat.

    I can shoot 44 mag the whole day long. Even mild loads on the 500 L I'm done after 5 shots.
     
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