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Thanks! My buddy couldn’t believe how interested my wife was either haha! She loaded several magazines while we took little breaks to talk and stuff. She’s already pretty good at using the gun on her own now.

I do recommend that as new shooters that you and your wife take a shooting safety or a hunter’s safety course, whichever might be available in your area. Safety and education help negate regret and sorrow. Going shooting with an experienced friend is good for familiarization but that does not take the place of nor qualify as a safety course given by a trained professional.
 
My buddy at work and his wife are in their early 60s and just now decided to take the plunge for similiar reasons. Plinking is now their "date night" activity! They chose to go with a bolt action .22 rifle, a .38 revolver, and a 9mm compact pistol- all emininently practical choices for their age and neighborhood.

Cant go wrong with a 10/22.

Im not a big shotgun fan, and Ive yet to find a girl who could tolerate more than a few 12/20 gauge rounds as well. Dont overlook the .410, it has plenty of energy and defensive rounds are more common nowadays than those for the 20ga. due to the popularity of the Taurus Judge and S&W Governor .410 revolvers. My youngest daughter fires 3" .410 slugs and buckshot from her smoothbore Enfield all day long and loves it!

Might also be worth considering a .22 pistol, 9mm automatic, .38/.357 revolver, or even an AR15 or AR9 instead of a shotgun. Each has its advantages and disadvantages, but my daughters shoot all of the above with proficiency- and they hate big bore shotguns.
 
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Ok, first off, welcome to the community.

As to training, check for Hunter Safety courses near you--don't get hung up on the title, they are more about firearms safety. CHL classes are offered in a number of places, and some of those will rent you pistols for the shooting part--those classes are good even if you are not getting a pistol anytime soon. Additionally, less upon safety, but more upon accuracy, check out Appleseed. They can teach you all sorts of things about your rifle and what it can do.

If you are part of several happy States, having that CHL can speed up the background check time for when (not if) you go shopping for that second 10/22 (since the wife like the one you bought, it's not "yours" anymore [:)]).

There are all kinds of things you can add to a 10/22, stocks, heavy barrels, doodads and geegaws galore. (There's an outfit that makes a stock that makes your 10/22 look like an MG42 [:)].)

Now, if the neighbor brings out an AR, you may really get hooked [:)]

Oh, and in our present time, you may be seeing scarcity, but, you are probably right at the tipping point where buying .22lr ammo by "the brick" (big box of ten boxes, for 500 rounds) will be to your advantage. Going box-by-box is a good way to find the right specific ammo that works best with your 10/22. (Note, if you buy a second one, it will probably "like" a different ammo.) Once you know the kind, having a brick means only needing to carry the one box.

Speaking of carry, you probably ought start shopping around for a carry case--soft or hard side. Had a buddy who would get used guitar cases and replace the innards with interlocking foam inserts, and leave all the stickers on the outside. His neighbors were really impressed with all the guitars he had [:)]

You might want a silicone impregnated "sock" that rolls over your rifle while it's in storage in your locking cabinet.
This one is from Midway: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/939460228 (caution Midway will tempt you with many, many things you do not currently know you want very badly [:)] ditto Brownells, Nachez, BassPro, etc.) Also, do not click on the Ammunition/Rimfire tab {:)]
 
Ok, first off, welcome to the community.

As to training, check for Hunter Safety courses near you--don't get hung up on the title, they are more about firearms safety. CHL classes are offered in a number of places, and some of those will rent you pistols for the shooting part--those classes are good even if you are not getting a pistol anytime soon. Additionally, less upon safety, but more upon accuracy, check out Appleseed. They can teach you all sorts of things about your rifle and what it can do.

If you are part of several happy States, having that CHL can speed up the background check time for when (not if) you go shopping for that second 10/22 (since the wife like the one you bought, it's not "yours" anymore [:)]).

There are all kinds of things you can add to a 10/22, stocks, heavy barrels, doodads and geegaws galore. (There's an outfit that makes a stock that makes your 10/22 look like an MG42 [:)].)

Now, if the neighbor brings out an AR, you may really get hooked [:)]

Oh, and in our present time, you may be seeing scarcity, but, you are probably right at the tipping point where buying .22lr ammo by "the brick" (big box of ten boxes, for 500 rounds) will be to your advantage. Going box-by-box is a good way to find the right specific ammo that works best with your 10/22. (Note, if you buy a second one, it will probably "like" a different ammo.) Once you know the kind, having a brick means only needing to carry the one box.

Speaking of carry, you probably ought start shopping around for a carry case--soft or hard side. Had a buddy who would get used guitar cases and replace the innards with interlocking foam inserts, and leave all the stickers on the outside. His neighbors were really impressed with all the guitars he had [:)]

You might want a silicone impregnated "sock" that rolls over your rifle while it's in storage in your locking cabinet.
This one is from Midway: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/939460228 (caution Midway will tempt you with many, many things you do not currently know you want very badly [:)] ditto Brownells, Nachez, BassPro, etc.) Also, do not click on the Ammunition/Rimfire tab {:)]

I’ll check into the hunter safety classes, sounds like a good idea.

I’m getting a Ruger PC carbine 9mm rifle soon, just waiting for it to come in. Then we’ll have two rifles to shoot for my wife and I.

I shot my buddy’s AR15 and I like it, but I prefer the other rifles more.

My gun seems to like CCI ammo. The few malfunctions I had were with the cheaper box ammo. But those shot pretty well also for being cheaper ammo. I picked up some more CCI ammo, it should be here next weekend.

I picked up a Ruger 10/22 carrying case. It’s pretty nice, fits the gun well, room for a scope, etc. I have a separate bag for ammo, hearing protection, magazines, etc.

I’ll look into the sock. I need to get a good scope now, as it’s a lot easier hitting targets with my buddy’s rifle with a scope than mine with the stock open sights.
 
That's a great choice. I have one from the mid 80s with a birch stock. It was my 2nd gun. Fun and cheap to shoot. Enjoy!
 
I’m getting a Ruger PC carbine 9mm rifle soon, just waiting for it to come in. Then we’ll have two rifles to shoot for my wife and I.
Yeah, that's the other "gateway" [:)]

I shot my buddy’s AR15 and I like it, but I prefer the other rifles more.
And that might be down to configuration, too. You can have an AR any way you want it, which means, no two are the same.

My gun seems to like CCI ammo.
That's good to know. And, price of the ammo is not an indicator of quality. Eley TenX is spendy, but not a panacea of perfection. I have four different .22lr and they each prefer a different brand and load (I have a cheat sheet to keep track).

I picked up a Ruger 10/22 carrying case. It’s pretty nice, fits the gun well, room for a scope, etc. I have a separate bag for ammo, hearing protection, magazines, etc.
Excellent

I’ll look into the sock. I need to get a good scope now, as it’s a lot easier hitting targets with my buddy’s rifle with a scope than mine with the stock open sights.
It will be sore tempting, by price, to get one of the 1" rimfire "tip-off" scopes. They have their place in the scheme of things. And, for your use, really, an inexpensive 3-9 might suit you just fine (browse Midway, Brownell's, Natchez for various options).
There are plenty of options in red dots. Give Holosun a good look.
 
Yeah, that's the other "gateway" [:)]


And that might be down to configuration, too. You can have an AR any way you want it, which means, no two are the same.


That's good to know. And, price of the ammo is not an indicator of quality. Eley TenX is spendy, but not a panacea of perfection. I have four different .22lr and they each prefer a different brand and load (I have a cheat sheet to keep track).


Excellent


It will be sore tempting, by price, to get one of the 1" rimfire "tip-off" scopes. They have their place in the scheme of things. And, for your use, really, an inexpensive 3-9 might suit you just fine (browse Midway, Brownell's, Natchez for various options).
There are plenty of options in red dots. Give Holosun a good look.

What’s the big difference between the red dot and standard scopes? I was thinking of getting a red dot as they’re smaller and not as bulky. But I also liked my buddy’s rifle with the standard scope on it, very easy to hit targets with it.
 
What’s the big difference between the red dot and standard scopes?
Two main differences. One, the red dot (typically) does not magnify, second, instead of having to find crosshairs, you are given a red (or green) dot (which might be a horse shoe or a chevron or the like).

The lenses in a telescopic sight have to focus the image and have some fairly rigid geometrical rules on where that geometry is located. Your eye needs to be in the range of that geometry. That area is referred to as the "eye box" and is the area fore and aft and left and right of the scope where you get a clean clear image of the target. If you are too far left/right or front/back (or combinations of those) the scope image will be distorted or obscured.

Mount up behind the same scope a few thousand times and it will be reflex as to where to put your cheek to get your eye in just the right spot. (Which is very much assisted by the height of the rings mounting the scope and where on the action the scope is mounted, too.) As you have seen on your buddy's rifle, getting the right spot makes it pretty effortless. This is not always the case--I know some folk who have scopes set up that only they can use.

Now, the crosshairs, these are referred to, technically, as the reticule. They can be in all sorts of configurations, fine hair; thick-thin; single post; two post; three post Mil-dots, and on and on. What is important is that they are something your eye has to focus upon to superimpose the target upon (this can get way extra technical in which focal plane the reticule impinges upon--that's a different topic). The cross hairs gain you something over "iron" sights--there's only the one thing to focus upon other than the target, and not three (front sight, rear sight, target).

So, because of the magnification, what you can see around the target is limited. Term of art is "Field of view." If it's a paper target, only being able to see xx feet eight side of a target is not too huge a deal. But it can be a thing if you are trying to scan something less discrete. Like, that tree three down from the fence post.

A red dot skips a bunch of that. You are looking through a tube. Your eye will notice the tube and your brain works to center that on your vision without conscious effort (we humans are cool that way). A dot is presented in the center of that tube, and it hovers there without regard to where you are behind the optic (and you will naturally try and center it). It has no real "focus" (other than any astigmatism in your vision), so you don't have to pick it out in the field of view. That makes it fast.

You get a red dot that you put on the target and that's where the rounds go. It's really reflexive. For "fieldcraft" it has a distinct advantage, you can shoot both eyes open. There's no lag as your shooting eye changes focus.

It can get off the rails complicated, sadly. There are all sorts of arguments about how big the dot ought to be. (It's not a lot of help if the dot is bigger than the target, for instance.) Some of the dots use a chevron, not a dot, and have ranging information stadia in them, too. This can clutter the view, and the stadia are very much limited to ammo type and other features. Also, for those with astigmatism (an irregularity of cornea that can blur focus, sometimes imperceptibly) that round dot can be a star or a sunburst or sawblade shape. This is not insurmountable, but it can take practice.

Now, this is long and detailed (and only an inch deep at that). For 2¢ get the same scope and rings as your buddy has, and start there on the 10/22. Getting the scope adjusted to point where the rounds go is a good way to use ammo, too. Decent link: https://www.opticsplanet.com/howto/how-to-choose-and-use-a-boresight.html
If you want to spend a dime or two: https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-...hter-kits/magnetic-boresighter-prod79734.aspx

Now that 9mm carbine will likely just love a red dot.
 
I will toss this suggestion in regarding shotguns: You may want to consider a gas operated semi-automatic shotgun along the line of a Remington 1100. The 1100 is one of the softest recoiling shotguns out there. It is very easy to control and followup shots are fast and accurate. The operation is not all that much different than your 10-22 except for the detachable magazines versus tube fed magazine.

I started hunting with a pump shotgun at 15 years old - I'm now 65. If I was looking for something my wife could handle in HD mode, I would not hesitate to have a gas operated semi-auto shotgun (Rem. 1100 or similar) in 20 gauge for her.
 
We won’t be hunting, just target practice and potential home defense. I know the .22 isn’t the best home defense option, but both my wife and I can shoot it easily and after searching for shotguns for a while with no luck, I figured a good first gun would be a .22.

You have to start somewhere, and the 10/22 is a great place to start.
The worst thing you could do as a new shooter is get too much gun, get beat up by the recoil and then say "forget it."
You've made it this far without a gun, and if, god forbid, something did happen and you needed it, it's a lot better than having no gun.

You have to crawl before you walk. You and your wife both will become more comfortable with guns in general. Don't step up in power until you're ready.
Most of us who shoot .44 magnum handguns and 3" magnum shotgun shells, didn't start out with those. We started with .22s and smaller stuff.

Welcome to The High Road.
 
I will toss this suggestion in regarding shotguns: You may want to consider a gas operated semi-automatic shotgun along the line of a Remington 1100. The 1100 is one of the softest recoiling shotguns out there. It is very easy to control and followup shots are fast and accurate. The operation is not all that much different than your 10-22 except for the detachable magazines versus tube fed magazine.

I started hunting with a pump shotgun at 15 years old - I'm now 65. If I was looking for something my wife could handle in HD mode, I would not hesitate to have a gas operated semi-auto shotgun (Rem. 1100 or similar) in 20 gauge for her.

Thanks for the recommendations. The 1100 is a bit too pricey for me, but I checked out the 1187 and v3 and those look pretty cool too. Lower recoil would be good for my wife as well as myself really haha! I like the 1187 with walnut stock, looks pretty cool.
 
Two main differences. One, the red dot (typically) does not magnify, second, instead of having to find crosshairs, you are given a red (or green) dot (which might be a horse shoe or a chevron or the like).

The lenses in a telescopic sight have to focus the image and have some fairly rigid geometrical rules on where that geometry is located. Your eye needs to be in the range of that geometry. That area is referred to as the "eye box" and is the area fore and aft and left and right of the scope where you get a clean clear image of the target. If you are too far left/right or front/back (or combinations of those) the scope image will be distorted or obscured.

Mount up behind the same scope a few thousand times and it will be reflex as to where to put your cheek to get your eye in just the right spot. (Which is very much assisted by the height of the rings mounting the scope and where on the action the scope is mounted, too.) As you have seen on your buddy's rifle, getting the right spot makes it pretty effortless. This is not always the case--I know some folk who have scopes set up that only they can use.

Now, the crosshairs, these are referred to, technically, as the reticule. They can be in all sorts of configurations, fine hair; thick-thin; single post; two post; three post Mil-dots, and on and on. What is important is that they are something your eye has to focus upon to superimpose the target upon (this can get way extra technical in which focal plane the reticule impinges upon--that's a different topic). The cross hairs gain you something over "iron" sights--there's only the one thing to focus upon other than the target, and not three (front sight, rear sight, target).

So, because of the magnification, what you can see around the target is limited. Term of art is "Field of view." If it's a paper target, only being able to see xx feet eight side of a target is not too huge a deal. But it can be a thing if you are trying to scan something less discrete. Like, that tree three down from the fence post.

A red dot skips a bunch of that. You are looking through a tube. Your eye will notice the tube and your brain works to center that on your vision without conscious effort (we humans are cool that way). A dot is presented in the center of that tube, and it hovers there without regard to where you are behind the optic (and you will naturally try and center it). It has no real "focus" (other than any astigmatism in your vision), so you don't have to pick it out in the field of view. That makes it fast.

You get a red dot that you put on the target and that's where the rounds go. It's really reflexive. For "fieldcraft" it has a distinct advantage, you can shoot both eyes open. There's no lag as your shooting eye changes focus.

It can get off the rails complicated, sadly. There are all sorts of arguments about how big the dot ought to be. (It's not a lot of help if the dot is bigger than the target, for instance.) Some of the dots use a chevron, not a dot, and have ranging information stadia in them, too. This can clutter the view, and the stadia are very much limited to ammo type and other features. Also, for those with astigmatism (an irregularity of cornea that can blur focus, sometimes imperceptibly) that round dot can be a star or a sunburst or sawblade shape. This is not insurmountable, but it can take practice.

Now, this is long and detailed (and only an inch deep at that). For 2¢ get the same scope and rings as your buddy has, and start there on the 10/22. Getting the scope adjusted to point where the rounds go is a good way to use ammo, too. Decent link: https://www.opticsplanet.com/howto/how-to-choose-and-use-a-boresight.html
If you want to spend a dime or two: https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-...hter-kits/magnetic-boresighter-prod79734.aspx

Now that 9mm carbine will likely just love a red dot.

Thanks for all the info! Will have to decide which way to go on the scope for the 10/22.
 
Congratulations and welcome to the addiction (and the forum)! I'll echo what's been said already about getting some professional training, the hunters safety class is a good place to start. Excellent choices so far, I think you'll really like the PC carbine. I have one with a Burris Fastfire sight, and it works great. It's very much like the 10/22. Of course, you'll need to put in the Glock magwell when you get it so you can then go get a Glock! I suggest a G19. ;) One magazine, two guns. Awesome! Let the enabling begin...:D
 
Couple of thoughts ...
  • When you get your Ruger PC Carbine, consider putting the Glock magazine adapter in it. Then shop around for the Glock 9mm double-stack pistol of your choice -- G17, G19, G26 -- because they can share magazines with the carbine.
  • For your semi-auto shotgun, Remington 11-87s are good, but if you dig a little deeper in your pocket -- maybe $100 or so more -- you can get a Beretta A300, which is an absolute workhorse of a shotgun.*
*Not available in 20-gauge, but it's a pretty soft-shooting 12-gauge.​
 
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Good to hear you guys had fun.
I think you and your wife will enjoy shooting that Ruger PCC 9 carbine as much as I do.
The ghost ring / peep sights are fantastic. I mentioned this in another thread here, my friend came over with his 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter last week, to shoot at my house. They were nailing beer cans at 25yds with my Ruger PCC 9 rifle.

In regards to self defense with either rifle - the 10/22 or PCC 9.

Keep 2 magazines or more, loaded (in advance) separate from your gun but in easy accessible place near the rifle for home defense.
You don't want to be fumbling with loading a magazine in an emergency.

Having 2 loaded magazines, allows you to quickly clear any issue with one of the magazines, by simply replacing it with the 2nd magazine in the gun.

I talked to my Brother In-Law a couple weeks ago about the guns and ammo I sent him and the family. He mentioned that he had "...hidden the ammo in the basement."

I mentioned that he really needs to load a couple magazines and have them handy. He said "I never thought of that!!!"
 
cdahl383 - one thing I haven't read here about the various optics is "alignment". You probably already know this but it never hurts to have a reminder that all optics have to be adjusted for each firearm. If you swap it out to another gun, you have to realign it. That being said, it is also likely that the store that sold you your guns has what is called a "bore sighter". This is a laser device that is inserted into the barrel and can approximate the dot or reticle to point of impact. You still have to test it with actual shooting at a given distance but bore sighting should at least have you on the target.
As Nightlord mentioned .38 Special/.357 Magnum revolver, I would like to add this - I don't advise getting a "snubbie" (under 3") as the flash and noise will be worse than a longer barrel. I chose a 4" .357 myself as it had better balance than the 6" version. And, with a revolver as compared to semi-auto pistol, it is less likely to jam making it more "user friendly". You are limited to 5-6 shots compared to most standard size pistols but the 38/357 have a larger variety of bullet weights and types than 9mm, 10mm, .40, and .45 ACP. You can also get a rifle (lever action) that can use the 38/357 to go with the revolver - 2 guns, 1 ammo.
I did. :evil:
 
Good to hear you guys had fun.
I think you and your wife will enjoy shooting that Ruger PCC 9 carbine as much as I do.
The ghost ring / peep sights are fantastic. I mentioned this in another thread here, my friend came over with his 14 year old son and 16 year old daughter last week, to shoot at my house. They were nailing beer cans at 25yds with my Ruger PCC 9 rifle.

In regards to self defense with either rifle - the 10/22 or PCC 9.

Keep 2 magazines or more, loaded (in advance) separate from your gun but in easy accessible place near the rifle for home defense.
You don't want to be fumbling with loading a magazine in an emergency.

Having 2 loaded magazines, allows you to quickly clear any issue with one of the magazines, by simply replacing it with the 2nd magazine in the gun.

I talked to my Brother In-Law a couple weeks ago about the guns and ammo I sent him and the family. He mentioned that he had "...hidden the ammo in the basement."

I mentioned that he really needs to load a couple magazines and have them handy. He said "I never thought of that!!!"

I have two 10 round magazines loaded right now. Just need to pop them in the gun and it’s ready to go. I keep everything locked up in our gun cabinet in our bedroom. Can get to it fast but kids can’t get into it.

I just ordered 1000 more rounds of CCI .22lr so I’ll be set for a little while haha!
 
I just ordered 1000 more rounds of CCI .22lr so I’ll be set for a little while haha!
You will be surprised how fast that will go! Never, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NEVER wait until your last box before buying your next brick!
I NEVER wait until my last brick (500 rds) before I order my next CASE! (5,000 rds)
I shoot smallbore metallic silhouette competition, so I practice a lot!
 
You will be surprised how fast that will go! Never, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NEVER wait until your last box before buying your next brick!
I NEVER wait until my last brick (500 rds) before I order my next CASE! (5,000 rds)
I shoot smallbore metallic silhouette competition, so I practice a lot!

Haha yeah it goes fast!
 
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