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My friend was suspended over an image of a gun: CA

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My friend was suspended in a Los Angeles high school for having a purse that had an artistic piece from Andy Worhol on it. The image is of a gun. Here is the purse:

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She was suspended for "defiance" because she refused to allow the purse to be confiscated. The school says the purse is contraband because it "implies violence" which is against the dress code. She is wondering if there is anything she can do about this. It's asinine.
 
Contact the ACLU and/or your state chapter thereof. They get a bad rap around here, but they're great for dealing with irrational administrators when the 2nd Amendment isn't the issue.
 
If it is clear that she violated the dress code and then refused to comply with school authorities to correct the problem then she is guilty. Was she aware of the school dress code/policy prior to bring this to school? I'll bet it was probably her attitude than the purse that got her in trouble. Sometimes when you are right, you have to still keep your cool.

Personally, I think the idea is stupid. But there are schools where you cannot:

A. Wear a shirt with a gun manufacturer's name.

B. Point your finger at a student. (it is supposedly demeaning) (or, your finger might go "off")

C. Wear a jewlery chain longer than what is necessary to fit around your neck. (A girl was suspended for wearing a Tweetie Bird neckless from elementary school because the chain was too long.

Finalyy, you friend does have some rights. Perhaps she should contact an attorney and confront this silliness.
 
Following the recent BATFE ruling that a finger is indeed a machine gun,(Atkins Accelerator) you should not, under any circumstances, point it at anything you do not wish to shoot.
 
My friend's little girl (8th grade) recently was faced with somewhat of the same problems.

The young liberal female teacher wanted to use the book "Color Purple" with those young kids, and then later told the kids the "the only reason for the 2nd Amendment was to allow the Army to have guns".

My friend's went to the school about the book. When the assistant Principal, who was backing the teacher, was asked if he read the book he said, "No, I started to but I stopped, it was really too filthy for me".:confused:

The little girl started to argue with the teacher about the 2nd Amendment but she was worried the teacher would "get her".

Damn I hate what our country has come to.:mad:
 
School Rules Imply Violence

Yes.

Think.

The school says you may not do [X].

You do [X].

The school tells you to leave.

You refuse.

They tell you more sternly, threatening [punishment].

You still refuse.

They send for . . . men with guns.

The men with guns tell you to leave.

You refuse.

The men point their guns at you.

You resist.

Now what?

The seeming "passive aggressive" stance of schools is, in fact, backed up with the threat of violence.

You're not allowed to represent violence in any way.

The schools (being part of the government) have a monopoly on that.
 
I wasn't going to post in this thread, thinking I didn't have anything of value to contribute to the OP, for I essentially agree with Hokkmike. However, it got me to thinking about my own daughter who is now 11. A year ago, I felt the strong need to home-school her and she balked at the idea, fearing that she wouldn't have the same opportunities to be with friends. A month or so after that, she told me it would be just fine if she were homeschooled when she got to high school. When I asked why the sudden change of mind, she, looking ahead at her perception of high school, said that she feared the gangs and so on. She feared the violence from other students because she knows that the school can't, or won't, take action in time to protect her.

I downplayed her fears mainly by telling her that we have a few years yet to make a final decision and I'm more financially able to home-school.

It's stories like these that make my resolve stronger in taking my girl out of these institutions of mass idiocy as soon as possible.
 
In my school, kids have been suspended for having mere drawings of guns or a gun in their notebooks.
 
[SARCASM]Personally I think it's great they have all these rules now. I mean, think of all the school shootings that have been avoided because of it! Back in the "good ol days" you could actually bring guns to school! Think of all the school shootings we had back then. Nowadays people are completely safe and there haven't been any school shootings! Oh wait, maybe that's backwards...[/QUOTE]

They keep blaming the wrong things. Don't blame the kids though, you know, the ones pulling the trigger...you might hurt their feelings or self esteem! Raise monsters and you get monsters.
 
When I was in school, if someone wore/brought something "offensive" or "obscene" to school they'd make you cover it up - tape, turn the shirt inside out, etc. Confiscation seems somewhat extreme in comparison.

Of course, I also wore my Civil War reenacting uniform to school once for costume day, and if that didn't "imply violence" a drawing on a purse sure shouldn't.
 
Here's the thing.

If she stands up for herself, it'll make her a better person. You learn more about real life and about yourself by NOT kissing the school administration's ass. The only thing you learn from said ass-kissing is to have a slave mentality for the rest of your life.

Who CARES if she gets suspended? She should enjoy herself, go to the beach, then plaster the principal's house with toilet paper, shaving cream, and eggs. That's what real Americans do when suspended.:D

School is there to teach, but sometimes they don't know what they're teaching. And remember, soon, she'll be 18. Take advantage of the special legal status she enjoys now, while she can!

I'd be curious to know if a picture of Mao or Che on a t-shirt would "imply violence."

They do to me.
 
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Or private school. My sister has pictures of herself at the gun range slipped into the clear inserts on the top of her binders.

By the way, I saw that bag at a teenie-bop type store at the mall a few months ago. I kind of chuckled at it.
 
If it is clear that she violated the dress code and then refused to comply with school authorities to correct the problem then she is guilty.

Ohhhh you're makin' me angry.

See, guns don't imply violence. Images of guns don't imply violence. I've never used a gun inviolence, and neither have I seen one (first hand) used in such an application. They're usually associated with celebration, recreation, and physical excellence in discipline - just like a basketball, a hotdog with a soda, and a jetski are.

It's all in the mindset of the administration, and how they want to apply ambiguous rules. The "if they obeyed the rules, they'd not be in trouble" mentality infuriates me, because it's ignoring the fact that hte rules are not only flat out wrong, but are being applied in a fashion to squash unpopular political statements - that is, anything but Leftist agenda.

Using the same reasoning behind banning this purse, a Che t-shirt would be fine, but one which simply said "Che was a murdering totalitarian-wannabe with a hatred for American ideals" would get you suspended - despite the veracity of the statement. It's simple, unbridled thoughtcrime persecution. "We don't want anything which encourages thoughts contrary to our beliefs to be allowed in the school, and that includes an image of a gun being used in a non-violent fashion." The fact that it's a Warhol painting is just icing on the cake, and quite ironic.

This girl is being hung out to dry. If I were the parent, I'd withdraw her from school and let her home school herself (if she's up to it). If I were the student, I'd refuse to comply and tell my parents I'd want to do same. There is no working within a system like this, where the most innocuous actions are taken and misconstrued to imply malicious intent. The best thing you can do in such a situation is withdraw yourself from their institution and let them decay from the inside through their own wrong-headed devices while trying to preserve as much of what as good in yourself as you can.
 
In my school, kids have been suspended for having mere drawings of guns or a gun in their notebooks.

Yep. Folks, THINK of how far we've regressed, socially, in the last mere 10 years! When I was a kid in 1nd - 5th grade, my friends and I would routinely get together during free time and draw huge battles. We would draw side-scrolling 'video games' out on paper, taping one sheet of paper to the next, complete with epic levels of bloodshed and violence "implied". We would bring these drawings to school and share them with each other; we would work on them at home, and we would act out some of the stuff with each other as boys are apt to do. We would show them to our teachers. Not once did any of us get in trouble.

Things have changed, drastically, and not for the better, since Columbine. I fear that unless we can get some honest, moral people back into the education system at the top (administrators and various board members) - all the way up to the DoE, we are as a country - in a word - f*cked. At a certain point, the constitution will provide little guarantee against the horde of "democracy", and we will have our rights stripped from us in the name of politically correct post-modernism and European-centric progression. And then we, both individually and as a culture, will likely die at the hands of foreign invaders, because there will be no backbone left to support our muscle. We'll just fall in on ourselves.
 
SCHOOLS???

when I went to Wentworth inst.in Boston we used to bring guns in to remake them.I took machine tool class.the teachers helped us.to many schools have gone political and socalist.if I had my daughter harased I would take her out and home school her and when they came to see why she was not in school I would tell them the school was to communistic for me to allow my child to be indocterated.such a scene might shock them.:cuss: :fire:
 
With due respect I doubt she was suspended for having a picture of a gun on her purse. She was probably suspended for her atitude and her refusal. Just like in the miltiary, refusal to comply (noncompliance) is a serious matter in schools. it basically undermines everything if it's allowed.

she should have relinquished it, then talked it out with the dean, AP, or principal with her parents. they may still have forbade it, but it would be politely and mainly because the picture of the gun is a distraction much like coming to school in lingerie would be.
 
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