My house was broken into..........

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While it's wrong what he did, it wasn't illegal. Your wife gave him consent to search, so your consent was irrelevant, since she had possession of the premises, legally and rightfully (and the key). The problem is that the wife most likely felt intimidated and coerced and gave consent as a result....she says she was "forced" - I doubt it - more likely what happened is what always happens - the nosy cop says "Now you don't mind if I look in here, DO YOU?" Assumptive close, with the implication that you're doing something wrong if you don't consent. The correct answer is almost always, "No, thank you." But most honest people feel obligated to say yes, so they do. She gave consent, end of story (legally speaking). But that's an a-hole cop for you, for sure.
 
If the lawsuit falls through you should at least write up a public notification, such as a letter to the editor or classified so others will be aware that the local police like to turn victims into suspects.
 
She should have said she didnt know where the key was and ask you about it as it was your guns /property in the safe. Once he got the ok and the key trumps you saying no over the phone, he was looking for something illegal to. The most you could probably do is file a written complaint. I dont think he should have opened the safe once you told him not to.

As far as my house being a target? No I think this was a local kid with nothing to do it was just random nothing was/is missing

When I read that they didnt get past the kitchen I thought that it was a kid that got scared and ran. Then you said it had small foot prints which says that this probably was a kid. They may come back and not be as scared next time. People that do this have a weird agenda so you have to be careful. And if you had security cameras you would already know who did this. Best thing to do is get cameras and more ammo.

If possible if you have a safe is to hide it inside somewhere that is built in and hidden in the house. One idea is to get an old t.v. gut it out and hide the safe behind that. Crooks are to lazy to think about a heavy t.v. or even to try to move it.
 
yeah, i agree with the other guys about your wife. she is your wife, andd i am certain the police were very intimidating. it SUCKS that they would open the safe after you told them not to! but i dont know if you will have a legal leg to stand on or not. i hope you do! friggen jerk! i wonder how he would feel if someone ransacked his house, and violated him most prized posessions. i am sure he would get pi$$#@! but, then, maybe he would know how you felt.
 
of course they could just wanna make sure the burglary wasn't done by someone you know and that there wasn't a car full of your guns running down the road. could someone have found where you hide the key?
 
He thought what you had in a safe was a ton of ammo?

He'd s*** himself if he saw some folks inventory.


Sounds like "Officer Fife" only gets to see the single round he keeps in his front pocket :barf:

My kids have probably packed more ammo in cans than the Officer has ever seen!
 
Well thank god they risked their lives to clear your house and make sure the BG/BG's were gone so your wife wasn't hurt by anyone hiding until after they left. I guess they aren't complete a**holes. Other than yes I do understand why you would be upset and feel violated exactly what damages do you hope to recover, what damages did you occur? What do you hope to accomplish with getting an attorney? What do you hope to accomplish with contacting their commanding officers, if it is to educate them and have their CO re-enforce them on the rules of consent to search, than make sure that happens, if it is to get them fired/written reprimand based on your incident, I would assume as a firefighter you probably haven't done everything perfect at every scene you have went on. I would further be willing to go out on a limb and bet that someone watching you at a scene has felt "those firefighters aren't doing something right, to many of them standing around not doing anything", or some other complaint that might appear to be valid to uninformed others but not to other professional responders. Not sure where you are coming from, but as some one who has put his ass on the line both physically and financially for 20+ yrs after speaking to their CO's (for the education aspect), I would cut a brother a break (everyone screws up). Up to you.
 
Keep us posted - it sounds like your wife gave consent. I don't know how that plays out.

Did they in fact seize anything?

I am not very clear on the damages. If they didn't seize anything, I wonder what the lawyer will think about damages. I think - but I don't know - that you have to show that you were deprived of something, or in some way financially harmed to claim damages.

Mike
 
PremiumSauces said:
the nosy cop says "Now you don't mind if I look in here, DO YOU?" Assumptive close, with the implication that you're doing something wrong if you don't consent. The correct answer is almost always, "No, thank you." But most honest people feel obligated to say yes, so they do.

Got that one backwards, dude. If someone answers YES to the question you posted, then that means they DO mind and do NOT want the officer to "look around". If you say "No, thank you", then it means they do NOT mind, thereby giving consent.
 
You need the cops on your side, piss them off and you can be guaranteed to lose your goods.

Your wife screwed up because you didn't train her well enough on how to handle police. Its your screwup not the cops.

You should be thanking the policefor clearing your house and making sure your wife was safe.

Don't sue the cops for your mistake.
 
NOLACOPUSMC said:
Please sue, that is just what this country needs, another frivilous lawsuit.

Hmmm...based on your user name, you must be a cop in the MOST corrupt PD in the nation next to, maybe, NYC. Guess you're just fine with cops illegally using their authority to intimate people, right? Puh-leeze... :rolleyes:
 
No I am not OK with that, but it seems peole are getting a little riled up over nothing. You are calling the cop an *******, and you were not even there. It appears as though the wife gave consent obviously against the husbands wishes. How is the cop supposed to know that.?

Granted, the cop may have been a little pushy, but that is not illegal. The guy was legit with his safe, so no harm no foul. I would feel more violated by the little rascals that broke into my home than the cop who came to clear it and now has to do the paperqwork.

but hey, most of you seem to hate the police anyway, so who cares. Call us when you need it and we might come if we are not eating donuts, banging your wife, or violating someone;s rights.

FYI, I do not work for NOPD, and you are correct, they are WAY corrupt.
 
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but hey, most of you seem to hate the police anyway, so who cares. Call us when you need it and we might come if we are not eating donuts, banging your wife, or violating someone;s rights.

(Bleeped by Art) Real high road right there. :rolleyes:

Believe me, I'll only call you/911 when I need medical assistance for the downed intruder(s)...or the coroner to bring body bags. I do NOT EVER rely on the police to protect me and my family due to the LONG response times in so many areas. They are only there to show up after the fact and do a report in the VAST majority of cases. Sure, someone might get lucky and have a cop right around the corner, but I'm NOT going to rely on those odds. ;)
 
That sounds like a good plan. A lot of areas have long response times.

Suing is not always the answer.

You insulting me by assuming my association wityh NOPD and insinuating I had less than stellaer integrity deserved such a response.
 
I'd blame the wife. She gave him the key and that likely constitutes permission to search.

No idea WHY he felt the need to do it, but she OKed it.
 
Duke of Doubt said:
This forum needs a better "quote" system, or at least one we can use more often. I can't tell who is responding to whom.

That is easy, just put "=username of quotee" after Quote and before the ]
 
Nickotym said:
That is easy, just put "=username of quotee" after Quote and before the ]

Nope, that won't work. The first quotation mark needs to be AFTER the = sign. Should be:

[kwote="desired username"] COPY/PASTE TEXT [/kwote]

Quote intentionally misspelled so it would not show as an actual quotation.

That said, it's not really that great of a system because anyone can make anyone look like they said anything. I've seen it here and on other boards where members make up BS and quote as if another member said it. Especially if the original poster deletes a heated post that was quoted later on. No way to know...
 
in Ct we set aside a day each year to honor those men in blue who were proactive in saving lives and or stopping crimes.

i remember there was one honoree in 2005.....
 
Claude, I've been in CT for almost 3 years and I've never heard of that. What day is it? Is it the same every year?
 
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