My kid came home with a school questioneer.

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I would hope parents would raise a stink over stuff like this. Yes it is easy to teach your own child the right and wrong of a survey like this. But if you raise enough stink you are helping OTHER children whose parents lack the moral fiber to respond correctly, and making America stronger tomorrow.
 
Are there any guns in your home? Aside from firearms, yes--13. A glue gun, a flare gun, a caulking gun, two staple guns, two waterguns, a heat gun, four airguns, and (I think) a rubber-band gun.

Does anyone smoke in the home? No, but the backyard and car are open territory.

Does anyone drink alcohol in the home? Accidentally swallowed some Listerine once when my parents told me we were moving from Washington, DC to Oklahoma City:eek:

Send the questionnaire back. My guess is that the teacher will reply to all questions with "No." When they do, ask them in the most innocent voice you can muster, "Why not?" :confused: :neener: :evil:
 
I sat my 10yr old down and we read all the posts.
I explained to him that it is not the schools buisness what goes on in our home. That school is to teach the 3 r`s.
Thanks guys/gals.
 
I' d send back my own questionnaire, asking that all school personnel that might come in contact with my child answer the same questions, plus, I'd ask for a detailed criminal background check on all of them be made available for my perusal, as well as all of the teachers and administrators disciplinary files. That would probably shut them up.
 
These are all classic "risk assessment" questions.

Simply put, they are trying to determine if your children are "at risk".

They're also commonly encountered in pediatrician's offices, I've discussed it here: http://geekwitha45.blogspot.com/2003_09_14_geekwitha45_archive.html#106394472759797959


As a result of all this, and after discussing it with spouse, we've enacted House Policy #8:

-With the sole exception of people bearing warrants, (or otherwise legally authorized) we will deny ownership or posession of firearms. Period. This includes Doctors, schools, insurance agents, social(ist) workers, and snoopy busybodies.

-With an eye towards not arousing suspicions in the above, we won't make a significant stink about it, although a general sense of being affronted shall be conveyed in such a way that does not tip out hand.

-The kids will be taught Firearms Safety Rule #5: (Don't touch without explicit permission and parental presence) and Firearms Safety Rule #6: (We don't talk about Mom & Dad's Real Guns to anyone)
 
"While I do not agree with your point of view, you presented it well and wrote an excellant paper". She received an A+ for her paper.

Those are the greatest papers ever. i have written two of those. That deserves a far better grade than an A+
 
I'm confused.

How is
"While I do not agree with your point of view, you presented it well and wrote an excellant paper". She received an A+ for her paper.
a good thing? The girl wrote a good paper, she gets an A+ as it should be. Why does the teacher take the opportunity to even mention her point of view?
 
"I will be happy to answer your qesitions in person. Be reminded, we are a nudist family, and our religon forces us to be nude, and all visitors as well. Failing to do so would be racist and meanspirited, as well as unfeeling and insensitive. Please keep this in mind, as our religon also does not allow us to answer any personal questions via mail or phone. Please call ahead, so we can prepare for you...."
 
I agree with you Caliburn. The teacher raelly had no place even expressing wether or not she AGREED with the students paper. BUT, schooling has gotten to the point where giving a fair grade at all is pretty impressive. I agree, its sad.
 
Boy am I glad my son goes to private Christian school! You guys have some great responses.
My son's instructors don't have to send a questionaire though. They know, or should know, what my position is. My son has been shooting since he was 7 and he can hit what he shoots at. Those who work with my family, most of them anyway, know where we stand. They also know what I am willing to do to any who harm my family. I have never had a problem, and no one messes with my children.
I guess if I received such a questionaire I would just write a short note that this information was a private family matter and further inquiry was inappropriate.
We live in California, and although I have a habit of calling it the PRK, I would have to say that the vast majority of people I know are pretty conservative. What you folks in free America hear about are, by and large, the liberal socialist residing in the large metro areas like LA and San Francisco. When you think of California, remember there are many of us here who are very conservative and are fighting on the front lines for freedom in a liberal, socialist state.
Bob
 
Are there any guns in your home? Enough to equip the Albanian army.

Does anyone smoke in the home? Actually, I go outside to do that.

Does anyone drink alcohol in the home? Yes, but only to excess.
 
Does anyone drink alcohol in the home? Yes, but only to excess.
That sounds familiar... you wouldn't have swiped it from a M*A*S*H episode?

When I was a junior in high school, my physics teacher had a bachelors degree in... P.E. No kidding, it's kinesiology (sp?) with a minor in education. I thought that was reason enough to home school my kids.
 
My daughter goes to a private Christian school. Two observations made me quite happy:

In fifth grade, each child selected a historical figure to write about and dress as. Many of the boys chose famous generals and frontier figures, and their costumes included (toy) guns. Nary a word was said by the school administration or teachers.

I saw my daughter's teacher get out of her car and noticed an NRA decal in the window!
 
I have four kids: 10, 8, 6, and 3. I fear greatly the day when I am going to receive something along these lines from one of their teachers. I do not think I am going to react very well. Actually, from having read this entire thread, I think I probably will react better than I would have had I not read it.

Thanks!

I think it's tough being a parent these days if you're actually awake to what's going on in the world around you. It would be so much easier to just know nothing. :banghead:
 
Answer to Question #1 = 4 or 5 bullet holes in the paper.
Answer to Question #2=4 or 5 burn holes in the paper from a lit cig.
Answer to Question #3= Spill some Jack Daniels on the paper (for color and odor).
 
I used to listen to Rollye James, Late night talk radio Libertarian out of Philadelphia, and she summed it up easily.

Teach my kids HOW to think! Not WHAT to think!
 
heh

any guns? caulking guns?
any one smoke? only after we set them on fire,why?
alcohol? only to douse people with before we smoke them.
 
The Devil is making me think of this one...

Take some old brass, cleaned as to not leave a trace...

Walk around the exterior of the school near the teacher's classroom on a Sunday evening. Just casually let them sprinkle out of your pocket. Don't leave prints... let them wonder..... :fire: :evil:

After living in and escaping California and there school system, I have a very high contempt for their ability to teach. They were too busy in everyone else business but teaching.... We had to home school ours to get them to read and recon... Outcome based education:banghead:
 
Might be part of the "new" DARE that incoporates
Drug and violence (say guns, boys and girls) resistance education.

Saw a similar attitude handed out in my stepson's class as "coloring materials" when he was about 9 or so:

The standard pictogram pot leaf with a "ban" circle around it,

The bottle of pills with a big "NO" on it...

The "ban handguns" symbol.

Had a talk with him about it... he agreed drugs were bad (more because of illegality, permanent metabolic damage and content assurance than any government imbued moral high ground), and said that the people who were pushing to ban guns "were pretty dumb".

Makes you wonder how many parents never check their kids homework, huh?
 
Oracle:

The house policies shift and morph over time and our whim, but some common threads run through them:

-We DON'T DO PHONE SOLICITATION. Take our number off your list, be off, and have a nice day.

-You DON'T GET OUR SSN's, Phone #, zip code, or anything other than the bare legal minimum necessary to conduct our transaction. This means you get cash, or a card and a signature on paper.

-We DO NOT sign for credit cards on electronic pen pads. I will happily scribble something that is blatantly scribble, however, so as to make your boss happy.

-We DO NOT CONSENT TO ANY SEARCH, EVER. If you had just cause, you'd have a warrant, otherwise you're just fishing. In any event, it's never in OUR interest to consent. Ever.

-We don't sign anything that isn't a contract, in which there is an exchange of value. Without an exchange of value, the value to me is...what? (People sign stuff all the time indemnifying some other organization against something, for NO GOOD REASON) If there isn't a clear value to me in signing the document, I don't sign it.


and the master house policy is:

Our policy is that your policy is not allowed to be Our problem.


As I've stated in the past, a policy is at best an implementation of a principle, and the moment the context shifts, the policy/procedure is no longer valid, and the outcome is likely to be perverse.

Well founded principles can be applied to any context, through awareness and good judgement.

The principle that underlies most of these policies is simply that of being aware of what your enlightened self interest actually is, and that promiscuously granted consent to BS left and right (the way most people do it) really isn't in your best interest.

Our society and legal system is setup to protect you when consent is with held, but this amounts to nothing if you obediently hand out consent as is it were meaningless ritual.

In general, people want to get along peacably, and have been conditioned to be non-confrontational. All sorts of problems have cropped up as a result.

The heart of the problem is that too many folks don't know how to "hold their own", which is to say, to actually Confront another, in a polite, sane, effective manner, without bluster. Too many believe that to Be Confrontational is to be irrational, and to be riding the edge of violence and illigitimate use of force.

This is not so at all.

Sigh.

It's almost as if people need to practice some key phrases, like, "I'm sorry, I have a problem with this." or "This isn't working for me".

We've probably all sat through too many business meetings with reflexively nodding heads, followed later on in the hall with muttering about problems with what everyone just agreed to. The most refreshing (and rare) meetings are when someone other than me* has the 'nads to politely say, "this is nuts!".


*as for me, my resume actually contains the phrase "Professional Heretic", so they pretty much expect that sort of thing from me.
 
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