My take on the most beat up question in CCW

[txhoghunter]

So what's the magical shot placement spot to stop a threat immediately?

Everyone's talking shot placement but nobody is giving details. Is it a secret?

Central nervous system....but aim center mass, the CNS is a very hard target, especially in a dynamic environment

 

[rozziboy18]

40mm

j/k i was always taught to carry as big of a firearm and cal as you fell comfortable carrying......so long as it is above 380.

 

[mustang_steve]

My thing about the Glock26 sized .380 is practically every .380 on the market is single-stack and the grip is so short, that you're lucky to get 7 rounds in the magazine.

Being able to fit 10/12 rounds in a single pistol gives quite an improvement in capacity, at least that's my thinking behind that statement.

It'd be nice if Glock figured out how to get their .380 domestically amde just enough to pass BATFE criteria....reciever and slide perhaps?


Thanks about those updates on teh .380 Glock models....I want both of them now.....darn you GCA, we need rid of this sporting purposes bullarky.

 

[NMGonzo]

My thing about the Glock26 sized .380 is practically every .380 on the market is single-stack and the grip is so short, that you're lucky to get 7 rounds in the magazine.

Being able to fit 10/12 rounds in a single pistol gives quite an improvement in capacity, at least that's my thinking behind that statement.

It'd be nice if Glock figured out how to get their .380 domestically amde just enough to pass BATFE criteria....reciever and slide perhaps?


Thanks about those updates on teh .380 Glock models....I want both of them now.....darn you GCA, we need rid of this sporting purposes bullarky.

bersa thunder plus 15 rounder

 

[shep854]

There's also the Beretta 84 "Cheetah", that uses a 13rd double-stack mag. It looks like a slightly shrunken 92. Whatshername in "The Matrix" used one.

 

[ForumSurfer]

My thing about the Glock26 sized .380 is practically every .380 on the market is single-stack and the grip is so short, that you're lucky to get 7 rounds in the magazine.

Being able to fit 10/12 rounds in a single pistol gives quite an improvement in capacity, at least that's my thinking behind that statement.

But it would be the same size as a 19 (or 26 if so desired) with no more capacity. Given the fact that a 19 has little recoil to begin with, what benefits are there? It only exists because certain countries won't allow a higher caliber.

 

[mustang_steve]

You're looking at it form a perspective of what works for you. 9mm has far higher muzzle pressure than .380, which means regardless of the operational design of the breech, it will have more aggressive recoil characteristics.

I was looking at an improvement on the .380, not a replacement for the 9mm. However, go ahead and play the caliber game...while we're at it, why use a 9mm when a .44mag S&W snubby isn't much bigger?

 

[Caliper_Mi]

I was looking at an improvement on the .380, not a replacement for the 9mm. However, go ahead and play the caliber game...while we're at it, why use a 9mm when a .44mag S&W snubby isn't much bigger?

Because the .44 has significantly less ammo capacity than a 9mm?

I guess if 9mm is too much recoil for a guy to handle, then a 380 in the same frame is a good idea. But, in general all you gain is a slightly smaller grip and a bit less recoil compared to a caliber already regarded as having very controllable recoil. Probably why we don't see too many on the market...

 

[mustang_steve]

Of course I was kidding on the 44mag snubby, although I know someone that does use one as everyday carry (and had to make many clothing compromises to make it work).

I do see the point, I suppose it's due to how much snappier I feel 9mm is. I do have to re-align my sights when firing, which slows me down a bit. Snappier recoil is harder to control without significant amounts of training, which my concern is most of the defensive forearms owners do not do.

We the internet shooters seem to be better about it (or say we are)...but I feel we are in the smallest minority here.

I know I go through about 1500 rounds of 9mm and about 250 rounds of .25acp a year on my two carry weapons. the .25 I'm already well beyond capable at defensive ranges..it's just a box of ammo every now and then to be sure I don't lose familiarity with it, since it's accuracy is very grip dependant...and it slide bites, so I need to keep my callous up.

The 9mm I'm starting to get really good at, but it's been a long road with it....perhaps if I didn't start with an ultra-light pistol to begin with, I'd have it down by now. There was much trial and error to learn how to not get a numb hand when shooting it....once the hand goes numb, accuracy goes to hell since I can't rely on mucle feedback anymore.