My wife, our infant, and two charging pitbulls

[Atticus]

I like dogs...but these discussions get old. This is no different then sticking a gun in someone's face and then laughing about the gun not being loaded ..."yuk yuk, you a sissy, you afraid a unloaded piece a metal?"
Keep the freakin dogs restrained.

 

[ArmedBear]

i've been told my stance on dogs reveals my fear of them. it has nothing to do with fear. i dont jump at the sight of a dog, i simply will not allow them to attack me.

I understand. You won't allow yourself to be dis'ed by a dog. Your honor must be defended!

"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them."

John Wayne in The Shootist

 

[Lupinus]

AB-
It has nothing to do with honor. It has to do with liking all body parts right where they are and fully intact. I wont harm a dog that doesn't show it is about to attack. Dog shows that though and it better hope I don't have a weapon.

 

[ArmedBear]

AB-
It has nothing to do with honor. It has to do with liking all body parts right where they are and fully intact. I wont harm a dog that doesn't show it is about to attack. Dog shows that though and it better hope I don't have a weapon.

Don't worry. Showing compassion for confused animals won't make your penis shrink.

Hopefully, you'll figure that out by the time you're old enough to buy a handgun.

But I wasn't talking to you, anyway.

 

[DevLcL]

AB-
It has nothing to do with honor. It has to do with liking all body parts right where they are and fully intact. I wont harm a dog that doesn't show it is about to attack. Dog shows that though and it better hope I don't have a weapon.

Don't you mean "I hope I have a weapon"? jk

 

[GoBrush]

Wow long thread

guess I need to chime in

Throw a bunch of rotten meat out into your yard
maybe do it for a couple days then try the coyote call as mentioned you may get lucky!!

I love dogs as much as the other guy but it the damn things show up blast them.

Lets see dogs or FAMILY Hard question NOT blast the bast***s

1. If you try Animal control and dont get results
2. try my suggestion and dont get results
3. dont want to mess with your neighbors

Give the address of the store and description of the dogs and I am sure another THR member could arrange a meeting with the dogs and the bottom of a garbage can. JUST KIDDING you would be better handling with #1 or #2

Couldnt help myself

 

[carebear]

This is similar to when a bear (not the "Armed" or "care" varieties) is shot in "defense of life and property" up here.

The public debate seems to devolve into 2 (well 3 really) groups.

The first says you should be able to tell when a bear's charge is a bluff and when it isn't. Which is sort of true. Bear behavour is pretty well documented and available for research. Which is great. Until you get a bear that hasn't read the guidelines. Or changes its mind mid-charge. Or is insane.

The other group, to which I subscribe, says it's a case by case basis, but acknowledges that the consequences of NOT killing a bear charging with intent is an injured or dead human. If we are going to err, it will be on the side of the human every time. Note that is explicitly NOT the same as saying we'd kill every charging bear. I have my mental line, I'm sure most people have theirs.

As far as judging others, the behaviour of the human AND the bear prior to the charge are going to be considered. An apparently innocent person is going to get more leeway.















Oh, the third group is the weirdos who want to kill all bears on sight, attacking or not. Given my nickname, they worry me.

 

[Lupinus]

Don't worry. Showing compassion for confused animals won't make your penis shrink.

Hopefully, you'll figure that out by the time you're old enough to buy a handgun

Riiiight, now it goes to my fortitude? Up untill that you presented a decent argument, that put you in the idiot catagory on this one

You let two dogs run at you snarling if you want and wait till they are taking chunks out of you to make sure they are going to attack. Better yet wait till they have your infants head in their mouth while the other is attacking your wife, that is the basic scenerio we are presented with had the dogs attacked rather then submitting. I don't take chances unneeded chances like that with my life, and certianly not the health of my family. You just stand there looking at a guy about to stab you to on the odd chance he might just be messing with you? Nope not me, and I value the life of a human a lot more then I do that of a dog. Has nothing to do with fear, has to do with the desire not to stand there and be attacked while doing nothing untill I am already being injured when chances are good I could have avoided injury altogether.

 

[Lupinus]

The other group, to which I subscribe, says it's a case by case basis, but acknowledges that the consequences of NOT killing a bear charging with intent is an injured or dead human. If we are going to err, it will be on the side of the human every time. Note that is explicitly NOT the same as saying we'd kill every charging bear. I have my mental line, I'm sure most people have theirs.

My group too. A dog I know comes to me fine, a dog comes to me obviously wants to play fine stranger or not. It comes at me or my family growling or showing other signs of attack not fine and if it is shot. No gun? It gets a knife, one arm my be torn up but I'm alive and theres one dead dog at my feet. I see no need to wait till it is latched onto me, as far as I am concerned growling and charging is the start of an attack, not contact.

 

[Sean Cloherty]

I've had some of the same dog experiences I am reading about here and now don't feel so foolish to share them.

I was visiting relative in FL and as I walked out with my two year old in my arms a neighbors LARGE German Shepard (and I mean HUGE for a Shepard) charge across his own yard and leapt over the low hedge directly for me at top speed snarling and growling the whole time.

Time stood still for what was probably .25 seconds but felt like waaaay too long before I took action without even planning to do so.

I planted myself half sideways, baby in my far arm, squatted slightly and roared out who knows what at top bloodcurdling volume. I surprised myself and the dog who stopped in his tracks and looked warily at me. Seeing a successful result, my second growl was a bit more voluntary and the dog yelped and ran to its owner who had just come out of the house.

He began to apologize to me but I felt sorry for scaring the dog and also more than a little ridiculous and red-faced.

I am happy that no one was hurt. However, I am concerned that going animal was my first respons and the fact that I had a loaded .45 on my hip didn't even enter into my consciouness until AFTER the danger was abating. If the dange was two-legged, I probably would have had that on my mind from the outset. I guess I am more trusting of our four-legged friends.

 

[carebear]

My "unpredictable" incident was with a military working dog (I know, not a typical situation to begin with).

I was visiting his handler at her work and she took me to the kennels to show me her Belgian Malinois. Beautiful dog, can't remember his name (chili?). We stood at the door to his kennel (chain link) and she called him over. He got up and, looking right at me, trotted over tail and ears up, tongue out and kinda bouncy. When he was about 3 feet away he went from cute, widdle puppy into a full-on, ears back, snarling leap for my face and slammed into the gate. She used her voice commands to back him down but she hustled me out of there quickly.

I have no idea if I made some unknown move or what exactly triggered his change in response. My mental attitude and posture was the same as I use with all friendly looking dogs, googly "good boy", because she was always saying what a sweetie he was.

Whatever happened, it was not of MY conscious volition. Something unbeknownst to me triggered the dog and, had there been no fence, I'd be missing a face.

I am not prepared to leave my or other's safety up to the will and decision of a thinking animal. Especially one that starts out showing aggressive, not playful aggressive (yes, I can usually tell the difference), intent.

 

[oh blanky]

I can't believe I brought Blanky out of ignore for that bit of tripe.

I'm not the one looking for excuses to shoot animals that may or may not even be pits, that are showing signs of submissive behavior that anyone with the least amount of familiarity with dogs would recognize, and who have done no harm to any one other than a mild unwarrented sphincter pucker.
But I'm the nutjob.

I'm done here
If any of you can put aside your irrational bigoted hatred of a particular breed of dumb animal long enough to actually make an intelligent comment,
Something not along the lines "if they look at me wrong I'll kill em.I don't care it they are a Chiuaua", feel free to PM me

Good Night

Of course, you did fail to answer the question great and powerful dog whisperer.

 

[pax]

If you've got a personal problem with another member, take it to PM or email. Don't inflict it on the rest of us!

Closed.

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