My wife put my shotgun in the bath

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I'm honestly very surprised the Mossberg is so fragile
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They're not, Zun. That's why I'm finding this thread more and more comical and less and less believable. Hell, let's be honest. I stopped believing it two pages ago.

rich
 
They're not, Zun. That's why I'm finding this thread more and more comical and less and less believable. Hell, let's be honest. I stopped believing it two pages ago.
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Water + bluing = Rust. God didn't make this equation too complicated. The Mossberg is easy to open because it's got an aluminum reveiver. Steel on steel seems to swell and take up space. Lots of the folks up in Alaska treat their guns like shovels, if it works, don't do anything to it. Mossbergs are really finicky with the shell stop and interrupter getting rusty and sticky. A few passes on the Arkansas stone and some wire brushing clears that right up. Gun functions again, customer is happy.
 
pbblaster and soak the entire action

i remember a thread a while back of a guy repairing a rem 1100 that went thru a flood
 
Water + bluing = Rust. God didn't make this equation too complicated.
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Wrong, Badge. You left out the oxygen and time part. Steel submerged fully in water has little free oxygen and thus takes time to rust. It's a slow process. Unless he's one of those traditionalists who "take a bath every month whether they need it or not", it's going to be mighty hard to dip a gun into water and have it rust solid over night.

I once had a customer bring an old Western Field 550 into my shop for "servicing". He had found it in the trunk of a wrecked car that had sat in a junkyard for a decade or more. The wood was mostly rotted away and the mag tube had rusted from the inside. It was loaded with some old Federal paper shells that were rotted, too. It took about two hours of cleaning and polishing but most all of it was perfectly serviceable. I replaced the mag tube and spring, the ejector, the stock, and cut the rusted muzzle off the gun for him and as far as I know, he's still using that gun to this day.

I've had customers that have dropped their guns (not just Mossbergs) into lakes and ponds and went back and retrieved them the next day. One day's soak in water won't even ruin the stock if it's good quality wood. Hell, I've seen shells that fired after being submerged in water for hours.

Unless that woman fully degreased his guns, hung them up and sprayed them alternately with vinegar and salt water, there is practically no way it could be rusted solid over night.

rich
 
Seriously? You have a serious marital issue that you need to address. That is far more important than any damage done to the Mossberg, because this is something that will eitehr cost you someone you love, or will cost you a LOT of money, or both. Concentrate on the big thing while you put some Kroil on the small thing and let it sit.

Mike
 
NG never said if it was loaded or not, I'd get a wooden dowel and approach it from the barrel side. If the bolt will take recoil- it ought to take a few stout blows from a hammer through the dowel.

As for your other problem. I'd sleep very very lightly. If I was foolish enough to sleep in the same house in the first place.
 
NG never said if it was loaded or not
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What he *did* say, Dry, was the part that no one seems to be noticing.

He said the bolt was halfway open....all he needs to do is strip it. There's no need to ram the bolt backward, pound it on the ground, dowel it etc. Simply remove the barrel, pop the trigger group pin out, and everything else will fall out.

I still say he's pulling your collective legs, though.

richard
 
It I were you, I'd try and find a gunsmith with an ultrasonic cleaner. That will clear all of the water from the internal areas.
 
Take it from a navy vet, that was married to a nut.
I had 10 years in and my wife took my daughter to her parents and told me if I did not get out that, that was the end. I got out.
A year later she ran off with an old boyfriend from high school.
I would have been retired at 38.
I did not take the advice of my father and friends, and stay in the military(where I was happy).
If she is doing these things now, it will only get worse.
There are many,many more good women out there.
The spread is about 4 to 1, dump her fast.
 
He said the bolt was halfway open....all he needs to do is strip it. There's no need to ram the bolt backward, pound it on the ground, dowel it etc. Simply remove the barrel, pop the trigger group pin out, and everything else will fall out.
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Just by going by what he says, if the bolt is jammed halfway open, it won't fall apart. To get the bolt all the way back would take some effort. I'd normally believe that this was a troll, but since I'm just peeking at 1's and 0's right now, I'll take it at face value.

Would like to see picture of gun, though.
 
NG, I guess it is a good thing, for her anyway, that you couldn't chamber a shell in that scattergun. :D Thank God I have never had to deal with an issue like this, but the Kroil and Break-Free ideas sound plausible to me. Personally I would refrain from using diesel or transmission fluid, but I have never needed to, and never tried it, so I can't say that it would cause damage.
 
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if the bolt is jammed halfway open, it won't fall apart.
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But there's only one receiver part on that gun that's screwed on and that's the ejector. The rest are all held in by the positions of the other parts. The halfway open bolt unlocks the barrel so if you unscrew the barrel attach nut, the barrel comes out. If you pop the trigger group pin out....and rust won't stop it from coming out because it's attached to an aluminum piece and a plastic piece....the trigger group, which is plastic and can't rust, pops out. With the trigger group out, the shell stop and interrupter, both attached to nothing and only held in by the trigger group, pop right out. With the bolt halfway open, the bolt carrier is in the strip position and only held in by the trigger group and shell stops so it pops right out. With the bolt carrier and barrel off, there's nothing holding the bolt in the gun. With the bolt out, the shell lifter isn't fastened into place....squeeze it and it pops out.

The only possible thing that would explain the bolt being frozen halfway open like that with rust is if the bolt rusted on both the right and left sides and the shell lifter rusted. With those two parts rusted, the shell lifter would gall as it tried to slide over the bolt. It's a lack of leverage situation. Strip it down and remove the bolt carrier and the bolt can be pushed out the front of the receiver, though. You have all the leverage you need that way.

If that gun were left in a mud hole for a few weeks and honestly rusted stiff in that position, it would still be strippable as I said.

richard
 
With the bolt halfway open, the bolt carrier is in the strip position and only held in by the trigger group and shell stops so it pops right out.
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Yeah, we're assuming the bolt carrier is far back enough. I'm assuming you're not posting the disassembly instructions for me. The OP says that the bolt is halfway open. I'm assuming that this means that the shell is halfway extracted... thus about 1.5" of bolt movement. I don't have my Mossy here, but I don't think that's far enough yet for it to fall apart.
 
Sounds like the perfect excuse to upgrade your gun and wife at the same time.
 
I still say he's pulling your collective legs, though.
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NG VI has been a member here since December of '07 with almost 2000 posts and no signs of shenanigans in the past ... I seriously doubt he's lying.

Also, in retrospect, HE never said anything about rust, just that he cannot get the slide open (several of us later inferred that it was rust or some other water caused problem).

I suspect she did more to this shotgun than just toss it into the tub.
 
If you have any pipe cleaner, dip it in some grease and see if you can't squeeze some in there. If you can at least get the action moving, you can get it working. Take it apart and do a good job cleaning and oiling the parts. Then go out and buy a safe that she can't open.

If you cannot do that, then the only thing that is going to save it is a good gunsmith.
 
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