1895 Nagant Revolver Club

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I sent an email to Wolf a week or so ago. They told me to expect it sometime mid-year. I hope the response Noid got is more on target than the response I got.
 
1944 Tula here, arsenal re-work so no collector value. Part of finnish history though, which was my main reason for buying it (not that it was ever popular as a sidearm here :)).

Great news if and when Wolff ammo becomes available. Hope we get some of that in here also.
 
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Hey Gang,

Just got a Tula 1938 this evening. It's in pretty nice cosmetic condition and the bore and cylinder look very good. The trigger pull is heavy but not as bad as I expected. I am looking forward to trying it out, at least in single action.

Unfortunately, I just had surgery on my ankle and won't be able to get to the range for a few months. :cuss: Major Bummer!! Oh well, at least the weather will be warm by the time I can play with it.

Regards, Jeff
 
I'm not a member of the club yet, but I have wanted to buy one of these little guns ever since I learned about them. With that in mind, I have a question for you guys: where did you get your Nagants? I don't think many gun stores would carry them, so I have to ask where you guys got yours. I assume the internet would be the most likely answer, but I don't know any specific sites. If anyone could point me to a specific site, it would be much appreciated.
 
I paid $75 at J&G Sales. But with added costs of shipping and FFL transfer fee it's in the ballpark. Besides, you'll be able to examine the piece before purchase.

Regards, Jeff
 
I paid $75 at J&G Sales. But with added costs of shipping and FFL transfer fee it's in the ballpark. Besides, you'll be able to examine the piece before purchase.

Regards, Jeff
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How was the gun you bought at J&G's?
 
jasper371,

If you have a Curio and Relics FFL, it's a tad high (since you can order direct from outfits like J&G sales, or Southern Ohio Gun and save on FFL fees).

If you don't, and are buying it locally, then it's not so bad as that amount can be less than FFL and shipping.

Then, there's the best thing about having it local, you can pick it up and handle it.

Seriously though, these are interesting revolvers.
 
Sandwich,

I'm not a member of the club yet, but I have wanted to buy one of these little guns ever since I learned about them.
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Well, not a problem. You will see that these guns are addictive, and there is a TON of knowledge to be had.

I don't think many gun stores would carry them, so I have to ask where you guys got yours. I assume the internet would be the most likely answer, but I don't know any specific sites. If anyone could point me to a specific site, it would be much appreciated.
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Many different sources: www.southernohioguns.com (prices are 69.95)
www.jgsales.com (74.95 I think)
www.empirearms.com (These guys have the SA Nagants)
www.centuryarms.com (These guys have the Target Models)
www.classicarms.com (Prices are 79.95)
Another good source is www.gunbroker.com. Just type in 1895 Nagant Revolver in the "search" function and you will see them. Only thing is, most of those prices are at the gun store retail level and after you pay FFL and shipping costs, you have a 200 dollar gun, when you could have one for much less than that.

To get around that, ask your local store to order one for you. Most gun stores should be happy to do just that. One thing though, the prices you will see on these sites are dealer prices and most shops might have a slight markup on them so they can pay their overhead bills. Just be aware of that. Another source is gunshows. I see these all over the place at gunshows.

Hope this helps!
 
Sandwich,

As I said in #80 above, it is in good shape. I'll add that the bore and chambers are bright, the rifling looks crisp and the trigger is heavy but fairly smooth. It shows some storage dings but the grips look almost new. It locks up tight when cocked. (Frankly, it looks a lot better than my S&W model 10 from the 1970's.) If it matters, the arsenal marks are clear and the serial numbers on the frame and cylinder match.

I may have lucked out with a good sample. The J&G Sales website has reviews by people who have bought each item. Mine seems to be on the better end. I always prefer to examine military surplus arms, if possible, but this experience sure worked out well.

Hope this helps.

Jeff
 
Sandwich,

As I said in #80 above, it is in good shape. I'll add that the bore and chambers are bright, the rifling looks crisp and the trigger is heavy but fairly smooth. It shows some storage dings but the grips look almost new. It locks up tight when cocked. (Frankly, it looks a lot better than my S&W model 10 from the 1970's.) If it matters, the arsenal marks are clear and the serial numbers on the frame and cylinder match.

I may have lucked out with a good sample. The J&G Sales website has reviews by people who have bought each item. Mine seems to be on the better end. I always prefer to examine military surplus arms, if possible, but this experience sure worked out well.

Hope this helps.

Jeff
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My fault, I should have read your post. Thanks for the additional info though, you have been very helpful, not to mention nice for overlooking my laziness. I have a question for you though: do you think this gun would be a good self defense gun for women?
 
Well, not a problem. You will see that these guns are addictive, and there is a TON of knowledge to be had.
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They are interesting little guns. One of things that most interested me about them is how the gap between the cylinder and the barrel is closed as you pull the trigger and fire. I think I will learn more as a go along too. I wonder if they have forums especially for the gun itself.

To get around that, ask your local store to order one for you. Most gun stores should be happy to do just that. One thing though, the prices you will see on these sites are dealer prices and most shops might have a slight markup on them so they can pay their overhead bills. Just be aware of that. Another source is gunshows. I see these all over the place at gunshows.

Hope this helps!
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You have helped me out a lot. Thanks for taking the time.
 
Sandwich,

No problem with the questions, that's what we are here for. Shoot, I am just glad to answer a question instead of asking one.
I have a question for you though: do you think this gun would be a good self defense gun for women?
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I think this is the worst pistol / revolver out there for Self-Defense. Let's put it in perspective, this revolver was obsolete before WWI hit. The Double Action pull on this approaches 25 pounds (at least on my models) and the SA barely breaks 12 (again, on my models). Throw in the lack of available self-defense ammo, lack of an option for speedy reloading, and the trigger and you will soon find that just about any other pistol / revolver is a better idea.

As for getting a C&R license, look here: http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/howtogetyourcurionrelicffl03/index.asp
 
Yeah, im probably just going to buy it from MGS. After shipping and the 25$ ffl fee the price comes out about even, and i'd rather pay a little more to inspect the gun first.

Going to the gunshow is also a possibility if i can find a calendar for them.
 
Sandwich,

Glad to help. I've asked a lot of questions and it is a pleasure to be able to contribute to the group.

I really don't think the Nagant is suitable for a woman's SD gun. The grip is comfortable for a woman's hand (at least for my wife's small hand) and the balance is nice. But the trigger for SD purposes is atrocious and I consider the caliber rather weak. I got it for historial interest and as an unusual plinker.

There's a ton of info on the forum regarding SD handguns for women. The basic considerations are: carry gun or home defense, ability to handle recoil, grip fit and comfort. Above all, letting the lady handle (and preferably fire) as many guns as possible.

(Don't assume you know what the lady will like. I made that mistake. I had a Taurus model 431, 3 inch barrel, in 44 special. This was a chunky and fairly heavy revolver. I didn't get a chance to shoot it much as my little 5 foot wife loved it and basically took it over. Further, she took some interns from her office shooting at our club. These were young girls in college who had never handled a gun of any type before. They all liked the Taurus better then the 22s or 38 specials, and they shot it well. I never would have guessed.):eek:

Regards, Jeff
 
Several months back, I took advantage of I/O's Gunboard special - got two more Tula's (Had one and two Izhevsks.) for $140 total, inc overnite, to my door. They have the import billboard on the barrel's underside. My first C&R use - I've had it for >2.5yr! Finally, a log entry. BTW, these two were really clean - clearly my nicest examples... so you CAN still get good ones.

Stainz
 
I think this is the worst pistol / revolver out there for Self-Defense. Let's put it in perspective, this revolver was obsolete before WWI hit. The Double Action pull on this approaches 25 pounds (at least on my models) and the SA barely breaks 12 (again, on my models). Throw in the lack of available self-defense ammo, lack of an option for speedy reloading, and the trigger and you will soon find that just about any other pistol / revolver is a better idea.
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Thanks for the info. The reason I asked was because my sister is clamoring for a pistol (she is 21), and I have a tough decision to make: should I give her a pistol that she won't hurt herself with and likely will never be used, or should I get her a practical self defense pistol. I know this seems strange, but it's complicated because:

1. My parents do not want me to get her a pistol, but she is 21 and can make her own decisions.

2. She does not want to take a basic pistol course, and I am uncomfortable giving her a pistol if she isn't trained. She is willing to go out with me and let me teach her, but I don't know how to teach someone how to shoot. I think it should be left to professional instructors.

3. When I bought my first pistol (a Bersa .380) so we could shoot, I told her I would give it to her when she turned 21, but I fell in love with the pistol and use it as my primary CCW, so I don't want to give it up, but I also can't afford a new Bersa for her. I still have to honor the agreement that I had with her though.

4. I want to look out for my sister's safety, and I don't know if giving her a pistol that would be practical for self defense would be a good idea, because she tends to do dumb things. I don't want her to do something stupid like pull it out if one of her friend's boyfriend is hitting her friend and have her shoot someone with it, or get shot with it. I don't know if I trust her judgment with a pistol.

5. On the other hand, I don't want to leave her with a false sense of self confidence in her pistol if it is not a good CCW if she decides to carry or needs to use it.

6. I have no idea whether she will keep it in a drawer and never use it, or if she will treat it as a real self defense piece. I am hoping that she will keep it in a drawer and never use it, but I have a feeling that she will use it as a CCW.

So basically my problem is that I have to decide whether I am going to give her a pistol to placate her or if I am going to get her a real self defense piece. As I think on it, I think I have no option but to get her a real self defense gun and train her how to use it. Sorry, most of this is just me rambling about what is going through my own head. That is why I was asking about the Nagant as a self defense piece. If you want to comment on what I wrote, please do so, I could use a different opinion.

By the way, I should also mention that this whole thing with my sister has nothing to do with my interest in the Nagant. I am still interested in it as a collector's piece and will be buying one no matter what I do with my sister. This problem has just been vexing me, that's all. Do I sound completely nuts?

As for getting a C&R license, look here: http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting...fl03/index.asp
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Thanks for the link. Somehow I was able to navigate my way through the ATF website and order the form.

Also, what is a "mall ninja"?
 
BullRunBear,

Sandwich,

Glad to help. I've asked a lot of questions and it is a pleasure to be able to contribute to the group.

I really don't think the Nagant is suitable for a woman's SD gun. The grip is comfortable for a woman's hand (at least for my wife's small hand) and the balance is nice. But the trigger for SD purposes is atrocious and I consider the caliber rather weak. I got it for historial interest and as an unusual plinker.

There's a ton of info on the forum regarding SD handguns for women. The basic considerations are: carry gun or home defense, ability to handle recoil, grip fit and comfort. Above all, letting the lady handle (and preferably fire) as many guns as possible.

(Don't assume you know what the lady will like. I made that mistake. I had a Taurus model 431, 3 inch barrel, in 44 special. This was a chunky and fairly heavy revolver. I didn't get a chance to shoot it much as my little 5 foot wife loved it and basically took it over. Further, she took some interns from her office shooting at our club. These were young girls in college who had never handled a gun of any type before. They all liked the Taurus better then the 22s or 38 specials, and they shot it well. I never would have guessed.)

Regards, Jeff
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I'm glad you're willing answer my questions, and once again, thank you.

As for the Nagant as a SD gun, what I posted to tinygnat should give you more info on why I asked that question. I probably should have just explained it when I asked, but oh well.

As for SD guns in general, she has fired quite a few guns in quite a few calibers. I think either a .380 ACP or .38 special would be best for her, but I have not seen her fire a 9mm yet. As for recoil, it is up in the air. She can handle a Ruger GP100 with .357 magnum, but can't handle a .45 and thinks the .380's recoil is snappy in the Bersa. I think we will have to shoot more before we decide on a caliber.

Thanks again for the info.
 
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