Mainsail
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Unless you've NEVER cleaned or dry-fired your guns, this is not true.akodo said:
ND last night. Listen and learn.
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blackcash88
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To all the people who treat ALL guns as loaded ALL the time, even after a physical, visual, etc inspection who practice dry fire, drawing from concealment, etc at home...
What do you point the firearm at in your house which you are willing to destroy? Do you guys REALLY have backstops inside your house?
What do you point the firearm at in your house which you are willing to destroy? Do you guys REALLY have backstops inside your house?
RobMoore
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well, akodo, like I posted before, there are some things I do with loaded guns, some things I only do with an unloaded gun, and some things I don't do with either (pointing them at someone is one of those....unless they deserve it, then I want it to be loaded)
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Guys,
Can it on the "loaded/unloaded" snit. If you want to argue legalistic BS talking points, do it somewhere else or I will ask the mods to pull every post from this thread exept the original.
Arguing terminology is what five year olds do when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar (or certain Democratic Presidents who get caught with something else in the cookie jar). It is juvenile and trite. It shows a lack of respect for the basic concept at hand, instead putting more ephasis on how it is verbally or textually rendered.
This originally being my thread I will end your discussion by stating, unequivocally, that all firearms are to be treated as if they are loaded, condition-checked or not. There. A no-frills, easy-to-understand, flat-out statement of the basic concept without a bunch of useless, time-wasting, pointless, trite, and otherwise senseless arguing over how it should be said or written. If you don't like the terminology, tough. Get over it and go do something more productive.
So, again, take it somewhere else or I will have the mods pull your posts completely out of this thread. If I can't get that done, I kill the thread myself. I will not have something this serious sullied by a couple of pissant hotheads with nothing better to do than argue a non-point.
Got it?
Brad
Can it on the "loaded/unloaded" snit. If you want to argue legalistic BS talking points, do it somewhere else or I will ask the mods to pull every post from this thread exept the original.
Arguing terminology is what five year olds do when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar (or certain Democratic Presidents who get caught with something else in the cookie jar). It is juvenile and trite. It shows a lack of respect for the basic concept at hand, instead putting more ephasis on how it is verbally or textually rendered.
This originally being my thread I will end your discussion by stating, unequivocally, that all firearms are to be treated as if they are loaded, condition-checked or not. There. A no-frills, easy-to-understand, flat-out statement of the basic concept without a bunch of useless, time-wasting, pointless, trite, and otherwise senseless arguing over how it should be said or written. If you don't like the terminology, tough. Get over it and go do something more productive.
So, again, take it somewhere else or I will have the mods pull your posts completely out of this thread. If I can't get that done, I kill the thread myself. I will not have something this serious sullied by a couple of pissant hotheads with nothing better to do than argue a non-point.
Got it?
Brad
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RobMoore
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You can't act like your above the argument, then toss in your own opinion on it.
There are more polite ways of keeping "your" thread within the confinds of your intent than calling people childish.
There are more polite ways of keeping "your" thread within the confinds of your intent than calling people childish.
Stevie-Ray
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For God's sake, when a proprietor at a gun show takes out a gun from under the counter, he normally checks it, verifying that it's unloaded, and immediately hands it to you, or more often than not, lays it on the counter where it is immediately pointed at one or more people along the counter. That doesn't much sound like a loaded gun; it sounds more like an unloaded and verified unloaded gun. If you're me, you check it again and then proceed to check out the feel. Personally I aim it at the rafters to see how it "points" for me.
Point is, that gun is probably pointed at 2 or 3 people after it comes out from under the counter. Loaded? I would hope not.
When you buy a gun and take it home, do you check which way it's facing in the box and orient the box to make sure that the barrel is pointing down as you are carrying it out to your car? After all it is a loaded gun, right?
When you ship your guns back to a manufacturer for warranty work, do you mark your gun boxes telling which end the barrel is pointing, so that nobody gets in front of it? All guns are always loaded, right?
All guns are always loaded, until you verify that they are not. I might add to all interested parties in case you are showing off your latest acquisition to friends.
To remain rigid in All guns are always loaded! is preposterous. I'm sure as hell glad I don't believe that, or my Redhawk would never come clean, which, incidently, would be a firearm to any cop if the cylinder is open or not.
Point is, that gun is probably pointed at 2 or 3 people after it comes out from under the counter. Loaded? I would hope not.
When you buy a gun and take it home, do you check which way it's facing in the box and orient the box to make sure that the barrel is pointing down as you are carrying it out to your car? After all it is a loaded gun, right?
When you ship your guns back to a manufacturer for warranty work, do you mark your gun boxes telling which end the barrel is pointing, so that nobody gets in front of it? All guns are always loaded, right?
All guns are always loaded, until you verify that they are not. I might add to all interested parties in case you are showing off your latest acquisition to friends.
To remain rigid in All guns are always loaded! is preposterous. I'm sure as hell glad I don't believe that, or my Redhawk would never come clean, which, incidently, would be a firearm to any cop if the cylinder is open or not.
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Yeah, really, Brad. Who died and made you lord of the dance, aka moderator? You made a post and that's all. This is NOT "your" thread. You do not own it.
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RobMoore said:
And my point gets hammered home, with perfect example, on the first reply.
Mods ... Lock It. I will not have something this important run into the ground because a bunch of legalistic ninnies have nothing better to do than argue semantics.
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