littlebubba
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The best home defense combination would be the dog AND the shotgun.
nearsighted newbie needs help
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KingContraryMan
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Jim
I'm also visually impaired, legally blind, worked in blind workshops, been to the state rehab for the blind, received SSDI until I got a good paying job. (I just didn't feel right sitting at home and drawing a check, but that's a different topic). I can see good enough to get around, but at night forget it. I couldn't see the far sight of my 1911 when I brought it home and started practicing with it. This was a big disappointment.
My visual conditions are congenital. I didn't see anywhere in you posts if yours are, but even if they're not, I'm sure you've learned to adapt. A lot of the posters here don't realize how your other senses take over in situations like this.
As far as not being able to identify the mailman from the pizza guy from a bad guy, I know the sound of the UPS truck. I know, without seeing the details of the mailman's face, that it's him from the way he walks, or the shape of his truck.
I trust my gut. Big time. I have to rely on my instincts, and I do. I've become so perceptive over the years most of my family and friends ask for my assessment of others. I seem to have acquired a sixth sense sometimes and can spot someone with bad intentions a mile away. That's not to say I haven't been fooled. I have. And I learned.
When it's dark, or if I'm asleep, I have a dog. This is very, very important to me and I depend on her. I know her bark, she knows her job. I can tell by the tone of her barks if she's bored or alarmed, if someone's just passing by or if someone's on the property. I cannot stress enough to you to get a dog. You don't have to get a huge, lumbering pitbull or similar. I have a Welsh Corgi, small and extremely intelligent. She's my eyes and ears, night and day.
I have the 1911. I got some dayglo paint and painted the sights, yellow on the outsides of the fronts, orange on the insides, orange on the far sight. At daytime it's amazing. At dawn or dusk, even better. At night, I use a separate, hand-held LED tactical flashlight, in the Harries position. In this hold, the light of the LED flashlight hits the far sight, lighting it up. I've practiced this hold until it's a natural motion. I keep the flashlight and 1911 at the bedside at night.
I also have a shotgun, nothing fancy, just a Remington 870 with the HD shells. I keep it within a few feet of my side of the bed.
Hope some of this helps. Use every tool you can, get a shotgun and a good dog. My very best, good luck and I'll be pullin' for you.
steve
I'm also visually impaired, legally blind, worked in blind workshops, been to the state rehab for the blind, received SSDI until I got a good paying job. (I just didn't feel right sitting at home and drawing a check, but that's a different topic). I can see good enough to get around, but at night forget it. I couldn't see the far sight of my 1911 when I brought it home and started practicing with it. This was a big disappointment.
My visual conditions are congenital. I didn't see anywhere in you posts if yours are, but even if they're not, I'm sure you've learned to adapt. A lot of the posters here don't realize how your other senses take over in situations like this.
As far as not being able to identify the mailman from the pizza guy from a bad guy, I know the sound of the UPS truck. I know, without seeing the details of the mailman's face, that it's him from the way he walks, or the shape of his truck.
I trust my gut. Big time. I have to rely on my instincts, and I do. I've become so perceptive over the years most of my family and friends ask for my assessment of others. I seem to have acquired a sixth sense sometimes and can spot someone with bad intentions a mile away. That's not to say I haven't been fooled. I have. And I learned.
When it's dark, or if I'm asleep, I have a dog. This is very, very important to me and I depend on her. I know her bark, she knows her job. I can tell by the tone of her barks if she's bored or alarmed, if someone's just passing by or if someone's on the property. I cannot stress enough to you to get a dog. You don't have to get a huge, lumbering pitbull or similar. I have a Welsh Corgi, small and extremely intelligent. She's my eyes and ears, night and day.
I have the 1911. I got some dayglo paint and painted the sights, yellow on the outsides of the fronts, orange on the insides, orange on the far sight. At daytime it's amazing. At dawn or dusk, even better. At night, I use a separate, hand-held LED tactical flashlight, in the Harries position. In this hold, the light of the LED flashlight hits the far sight, lighting it up. I've practiced this hold until it's a natural motion. I keep the flashlight and 1911 at the bedside at night.
I also have a shotgun, nothing fancy, just a Remington 870 with the HD shells. I keep it within a few feet of my side of the bed.
Hope some of this helps. Use every tool you can, get a shotgun and a good dog. My very best, good luck and I'll be pullin' for you.
steve
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9MMare
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I'm totally thinking the shottie too, but why the light? Are your eyes so bad that you think you wont see movement?
For home defense, because I live alone, and far enough from neighbors, the only identifying I intend to do is verbal. If they dont respond, ANYONE who doesnt respond or leave immediately, will be shot. (Yes, I pray no one deaf accidentally breaks into my house). Because absolutely no one else belongs in my house uninvited and is considered a deadly threat. (My family is aware of this and know to announce themselves...and also live 3000 miles away).
9MMare
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Does the paint show up in full darkness? I've wanted to get Trijiicon sites put on my M&P and it's nearly impossible to find someone to put them on. Trijiicon will, but I have one defensive weapon and dont want to send it away.
If light is an important consideration, you might want to consider motion detector light switches tor each room, with directional lights shining away from the area you would be in, toward the intruder. Turn them on before bed and they would activate when someone enters it's field of operation. They also make motion sensing audible indicators. Just something to consider.
blindjim
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Gee folks… I’m sorry I’ve been distracted elsewhere in the process of buying, waiting on, selecting, and installing my newest latest greatest, “keep the bad guys out and me safe” kit’, arranging exterior motion sensitive flood lighting, selecting a Home Security Alarm system which will be omonitored system initially, and several other concerns, as well as some physically debilitating issues I’ve been enduring of late. So a lot is on my plate.
KingContraryMan
Wow. Thanks a lot. An auto in 45 cal is the next item on my list. Likely a 45 ACP in 185g SMJ… railed w/light. Sig? Glock? Colt? No… can’t wait that long… and want new pieces.
Sights aren’t my first choice to acquire a target with, in fact fixed or moveable rears with fixed front posts simply are behind me now.
I appreciate your input.. great idea on the high contrasting effect of painting fronts and rears like you did. Outstanding.
My condition is not congenital. Mine was an unbeknownst sacrifice I made during my military service. No RP exists in my family on either side for generations. I used to compete in several shooting sports, though long guns were my forte. I involved myself in other sports as well…. And on quite high levels. My eyes began going south prior to my discharge. Within a few years of my discharge I was considered LB. Haven’t driven in 20+ years. Should have stopped driving 25 years ago probably.
You are right on how other senses pick up on things, though it is because we use them. It’s simple practice. Forced practice to be sure, but practice nonetheless. It don’t come automatically like my current fresh Mossberg & boys 930 ‘SPX’ (cough cough… there’s a story there as well in what is adv’d and what is real & available.. and it’s suprising too… perhaps more on that later on).
Being familiar with my domicile helps a lot.
19&41
Tanks… didn’t know about the MD which make noise! I’ll Google some for them.
Sky Light makes a remote thingy that works (reportedly) from 100ft away. It will turn on/off lights within or without the house via a pocket clicker. $20 gets you the transmitter and receiver! Plug whatever 1000 watt item or less into the receiver which I assume plugs into the outlet itself, and violin! Lights! Whether you don’t want to enter a darkened house when you arrive, or light one up for whatever reason late in the night, say for some intruders? These could be Halogen floods too I suppose. Hmmmm.
Chamberlain systems, (garage door opener folks), makes a 4 zone completely wireless announcer which works w/PIR detectors. Let’s you know someone is outside… and where. It makes a different noise for each zone! $139
GE makes a Simon XT portable 40 zone entirely wireless, monitored alarm (or not… your choice) home security system. You can incorporate Heat sensors, smoke detectors, flood sensors, cameras, access sensors, motion detectors, glass break detectors, sirens (in & outside), which can use a cell phone call outdevice vs. hard line call out, and has a battery backup good for a full day’s work if the lights go out. Depending on how it is outfitted the homes interior could be setup to indicate any alarm notification there is, save for the IRS calling and saying they are auditing you… or notice of divorce proceedings are about to commence, which I’m sure can be quite alarming too!
The XT outfit speaks it’s indications. Kitchen door is compromised… intruder detected (ala PIR) in living room, Utility shed, Guest bedroom window opened!... etc. Safemart.com
Cameras & a DVR, are a MUST for me too so there goes another fistful of duckets.
Naturally, I’m adding all the above as the days pass. My intent is to make it quite clear… I’ll no longer be either naïve & trusting where my safety and property are at risk, nor am I AN EASY TARGET… and with any luck, the perp will just get arrested for trespassing.
God willing, no shells will be loosed here. That’s my main goal.
So far I’ve decided too on adding a dog, though that is well down the road,
On the which shell is best frontier, I’ve chosen single ought buck, 2.75. Which maker? Gonna start with good old Federal, then try some others. Whomever wins will fill my 930 to the top.
Tactical Light solutions?
My only area still foggy to me is the lighting situation. I’ve become aware of several brands, and seen some uh, accounts of them on Youtube, yet none were to very convincing and some were just severely biased.
Of course my needs are for targeting acquisition so a tight tunnel of light with ‘some’ spill is required…. Power? I’d say so far, 180 lums is about the least I’ll go with.
Where to mount it? I’m guessing the forend, or hanging off the magazine tube so my off hand will operate it.
Something simple… on off… 200 lumens or so, mo’ is better, but I’d say under 300. Too much light in close, affects me too as the reflection itself can be deleterious to my own sight picture.
So far, Streamlight, FEnix, Olight, and Coast, have all been mentioned on these pages and elsewhere, and seem the top contestants. I left out surefire as it’s simply to ‘spensive!
On this tactical mounted lighting arena, I’m a dummy still. Seen a Surefire setup with 180 lumens which wasn’t bad, but it’s $300 price tag was!
Saw a streamlight with modes, and 180 which wasn’t too far off.
I think I understand LED is the way to go, and CR4 is the latest emitter tech?
Any who, any ideas on lighting up my newest deterrent/defender would be truly well received, and greatly appreciated.
Tanks!
KingContraryMan
Wow. Thanks a lot. An auto in 45 cal is the next item on my list. Likely a 45 ACP in 185g SMJ… railed w/light. Sig? Glock? Colt? No… can’t wait that long… and want new pieces.
Sights aren’t my first choice to acquire a target with, in fact fixed or moveable rears with fixed front posts simply are behind me now.
I appreciate your input.. great idea on the high contrasting effect of painting fronts and rears like you did. Outstanding.
My condition is not congenital. Mine was an unbeknownst sacrifice I made during my military service. No RP exists in my family on either side for generations. I used to compete in several shooting sports, though long guns were my forte. I involved myself in other sports as well…. And on quite high levels. My eyes began going south prior to my discharge. Within a few years of my discharge I was considered LB. Haven’t driven in 20+ years. Should have stopped driving 25 years ago probably.
You are right on how other senses pick up on things, though it is because we use them. It’s simple practice. Forced practice to be sure, but practice nonetheless. It don’t come automatically like my current fresh Mossberg & boys 930 ‘SPX’ (cough cough… there’s a story there as well in what is adv’d and what is real & available.. and it’s suprising too… perhaps more on that later on).
Being familiar with my domicile helps a lot.
19&41
Tanks… didn’t know about the MD which make noise! I’ll Google some for them.
Sky Light makes a remote thingy that works (reportedly) from 100ft away. It will turn on/off lights within or without the house via a pocket clicker. $20 gets you the transmitter and receiver! Plug whatever 1000 watt item or less into the receiver which I assume plugs into the outlet itself, and violin! Lights! Whether you don’t want to enter a darkened house when you arrive, or light one up for whatever reason late in the night, say for some intruders? These could be Halogen floods too I suppose. Hmmmm.
Chamberlain systems, (garage door opener folks), makes a 4 zone completely wireless announcer which works w/PIR detectors. Let’s you know someone is outside… and where. It makes a different noise for each zone! $139
GE makes a Simon XT portable 40 zone entirely wireless, monitored alarm (or not… your choice) home security system. You can incorporate Heat sensors, smoke detectors, flood sensors, cameras, access sensors, motion detectors, glass break detectors, sirens (in & outside), which can use a cell phone call outdevice vs. hard line call out, and has a battery backup good for a full day’s work if the lights go out. Depending on how it is outfitted the homes interior could be setup to indicate any alarm notification there is, save for the IRS calling and saying they are auditing you… or notice of divorce proceedings are about to commence, which I’m sure can be quite alarming too!
The XT outfit speaks it’s indications. Kitchen door is compromised… intruder detected (ala PIR) in living room, Utility shed, Guest bedroom window opened!... etc. Safemart.com
Cameras & a DVR, are a MUST for me too so there goes another fistful of duckets.
Naturally, I’m adding all the above as the days pass. My intent is to make it quite clear… I’ll no longer be either naïve & trusting where my safety and property are at risk, nor am I AN EASY TARGET… and with any luck, the perp will just get arrested for trespassing.
God willing, no shells will be loosed here. That’s my main goal.
So far I’ve decided too on adding a dog, though that is well down the road,
On the which shell is best frontier, I’ve chosen single ought buck, 2.75. Which maker? Gonna start with good old Federal, then try some others. Whomever wins will fill my 930 to the top.
Tactical Light solutions?
My only area still foggy to me is the lighting situation. I’ve become aware of several brands, and seen some uh, accounts of them on Youtube, yet none were to very convincing and some were just severely biased.
Of course my needs are for targeting acquisition so a tight tunnel of light with ‘some’ spill is required…. Power? I’d say so far, 180 lums is about the least I’ll go with.
Where to mount it? I’m guessing the forend, or hanging off the magazine tube so my off hand will operate it.
Something simple… on off… 200 lumens or so, mo’ is better, but I’d say under 300. Too much light in close, affects me too as the reflection itself can be deleterious to my own sight picture.
So far, Streamlight, FEnix, Olight, and Coast, have all been mentioned on these pages and elsewhere, and seem the top contestants. I left out surefire as it’s simply to ‘spensive!
On this tactical mounted lighting arena, I’m a dummy still. Seen a Surefire setup with 180 lumens which wasn’t bad, but it’s $300 price tag was!
Saw a streamlight with modes, and 180 which wasn’t too far off.
I think I understand LED is the way to go, and CR4 is the latest emitter tech?
Any who, any ideas on lighting up my newest deterrent/defender would be truly well received, and greatly appreciated.
Tanks!
That Simon Xt sounds like it would perform the functions of any pir unit of the type I suggested. Make sure to inquire with current users about the monitoring organization and their reliability and make sure whatever alarm system you get has a good backup power system in the event of power outages. The robbers sometimes take advantage of such events.
klutchless
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I picked up a H&R 20ga youth model for 50 bucks and just screwed a 110 lumen wal mart light to the forearm with two bent hose clamps.Load it with rem #4 Bought a slip over shell holder with the recoil pad (helps with stock length at the range) keep it loaded with #4 and two slugs.Not the prettiest most tacticool thing in the world but it works and I have about 110 dollars in it and is KISS to the max.KEEP IT STUPID SIMPLE until you can do it in your sleep because chances are you will be when you need it.Beware you will get some head turning taking this rig to the range to practice.
klutchless
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Dang I should have read the above post before I put up that response.
Hocka Louis
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Jim;
I am sorry for the conditions u r bearing. I really hate hearing such junk. U shouldn't have to put up with this and be defensive at this point in your life.
So, a short-barreled 20 gauge pump shotgun with a light-holding forearm that simply activates that light sounds to me to be the ticket. Sadly, the forearm and light which is tough, small, and doesn't eat much energy (super-bright LED's) will cost as much as the darn basic gun.
Others here can be of more help in getting that forearm but I recommend a Mossberg shotgun.
I am sorry for the conditions u r bearing. I really hate hearing such junk. U shouldn't have to put up with this and be defensive at this point in your life.
So, a short-barreled 20 gauge pump shotgun with a light-holding forearm that simply activates that light sounds to me to be the ticket. Sadly, the forearm and light which is tough, small, and doesn't eat much energy (super-bright LED's) will cost as much as the darn basic gun.
Others here can be of more help in getting that forearm but I recommend a Mossberg shotgun.
blindjim
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Well, all the info I put into my last post is ongoing and upcoming. Lights cameras, floods, sirens (inside & outside)… and oh, yeah… the 930 (reportedly ‘SPX’), is also a done deal… I couldn’t figure out how to post pics of it yet though. The sights don’t look right and the stock is normal… no pistol grips, pick rail though. Will likely have Mossberg exchange the barrel and land a std SPX front sight… or not.
I’m amazed at just how little gun sellers actually know about guns today. Having been out of, and sworn off the gun circle for over 30 years, I find that arena just as pitiful as are so many other previously professional or professionalized, business areas.
I’m gonna start calling them gun sellers… not gun dealers…. And likewise with other vendors… even some of the pro areas aren’t too pro any mo from what I’ve seen and to keep my paranoia in check, I’ve gotta believe they ain’t taking advantage just because of my terrible vision! Or are they? It suere happens a lot. Carpenters. Electricians. Landscapers, etc. Once it’s determeined I’m short on sight, things get left out, forgotten, and overlooked routinely regardless the uh, ‘pro’. But it ain’t me, right?
Any who….
Is it true that so long as your mounted llight has an LED emitter (or more) and of decent build, they wil withstand the shock of repeated use?
I need a tunnel of light without donuts or rings, and right at 200 or better lumens. Simple on/off sw is fine… maybe a lower setting of light output for when all is done…. Maybe.
Tanks.
I’m amazed at just how little gun sellers actually know about guns today. Having been out of, and sworn off the gun circle for over 30 years, I find that arena just as pitiful as are so many other previously professional or professionalized, business areas.
I’m gonna start calling them gun sellers… not gun dealers…. And likewise with other vendors… even some of the pro areas aren’t too pro any mo from what I’ve seen and to keep my paranoia in check, I’ve gotta believe they ain’t taking advantage just because of my terrible vision! Or are they? It suere happens a lot. Carpenters. Electricians. Landscapers, etc. Once it’s determeined I’m short on sight, things get left out, forgotten, and overlooked routinely regardless the uh, ‘pro’. But it ain’t me, right?
Any who….
Is it true that so long as your mounted llight has an LED emitter (or more) and of decent build, they wil withstand the shock of repeated use?
I need a tunnel of light without donuts or rings, and right at 200 or better lumens. Simple on/off sw is fine… maybe a lower setting of light output for when all is done…. Maybe.
Tanks.
KingContraryMan
Member
Tactical flashlights.... boy there's a whole 'nuther universe. I even found a Flashlight Forum!
I'm sure there are guys here who know tons about them, yourself included... I don't, I just know I'm much better off these days with the continual perfections of the LED. I remember a teacher in college telling us that when they finally figure out how to make a white LED, things would start changing fast. The very idea of hanging a TV on the wall like a picture was simply amazing to envision in 1990.
For me, I just use a cheap LED flashlight by a brand called Serengeti, you can pick up a 2-pack on Fleabay for 35 bucks or so. 160 lumens, doesn't seem very bright, but with 3 new AAAs it's quite amazing and no donuts or rings when it's extended to it's farthest focus adjust. It's got 3 settings, 1/2 power, full, and strobe.
I'm sure there are guys here who know tons about them, yourself included... I don't, I just know I'm much better off these days with the continual perfections of the LED. I remember a teacher in college telling us that when they finally figure out how to make a white LED, things would start changing fast. The very idea of hanging a TV on the wall like a picture was simply amazing to envision in 1990.
For me, I just use a cheap LED flashlight by a brand called Serengeti, you can pick up a 2-pack on Fleabay for 35 bucks or so. 160 lumens, doesn't seem very bright, but with 3 new AAAs it's quite amazing and no donuts or rings when it's extended to it's farthest focus adjust. It's got 3 settings, 1/2 power, full, and strobe.
blindjim
member
19&41
Simon XT….
The machine itself has a full UPS/Battery backup component, fully up to speed after the first 24-48 hrs. The device itself, is what makes the announcement to the control panel/remote keypads, the voice message (s), Kitchen door is open… Office window is open… While it contacts HQ via Cell network informing them of same… thereafter, I’m contacted at my various contact #s… and if no response, they’ll send in the LEOs.
That’s the level for 19.95 @ mo.
For 29.95 @ mo, I can dial into the system from anywhere and see what’s up personally, watch a camera installed in the house, arm or disarm the system so others can entyer. Work, and leave without me giving away my pass code.
Up to 40 xones and/or sensors of varying types can be installed and all is connected/checked/controlled by wireless Ultra HF network. And it’s entirely portable… should I move… sell, etc.
Hocka Louis
Sorry. Didn’t mean to sound like a vic… it’s apparently just my time in the barrel.
KingContraryMan
Hey! Tanks! That’s a good idea for the $$$ I’m sure.
As for product knowledge, well, I’m sure learning fast about who does what and for how much… the part I don’t know is how well, how long, are the spots of info I need … I think.
I believe I got took on the 930 SPX buy. I asked for an SPX… An SPX was reputedly ordered by the gun ‘seller’ via their distributor, but I found out today my 930 TM (printed/engraved) into the barrel, says nothing about SPX… anywhere on it! Nada.
Doesn’t Mossberg engrave the specific model #s onto their barrels entirely? Shouldn’t a 930 SPX…. Say “930 SPX” RIGHT ON IT?
Mine does not.
It reads: 930 TM…. And looks somewhat like one of the SPX versions … non PG… NON Ghost ring… Non Fiber optic winged front post sight… but does have 18.5 barrle…. Mag tube extension… front sight is fixed/welded and tall with tall ears… Rear sight is adj… but no more than a normal peep sight with elevation and windage adj., which do me absolutely no good. and it has a Pick Rail atop the receiver… das eet! $668 out the door from , well I’ll not say just yet as some investigation is supposedly ongoing by the seller to verify which model it really is.
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I will personally call Mossberg tomorrow to verify if they leavel info off their guns as a policy.. Perhaps things have changed in a few decades. Used to be whatever model # of gun I bought, regardless the maker, the model # was engraved onto the gun barrel… and some even put the serial # right there too!
Engraving costs must have gone up since then. A lot.
On the light frontier I’ll probably default to sure or stream.. and blow off Fenix, Coast, etc.
Simon XT….
The machine itself has a full UPS/Battery backup component, fully up to speed after the first 24-48 hrs. The device itself, is what makes the announcement to the control panel/remote keypads, the voice message (s), Kitchen door is open… Office window is open… While it contacts HQ via Cell network informing them of same… thereafter, I’m contacted at my various contact #s… and if no response, they’ll send in the LEOs.
That’s the level for 19.95 @ mo.
For 29.95 @ mo, I can dial into the system from anywhere and see what’s up personally, watch a camera installed in the house, arm or disarm the system so others can entyer. Work, and leave without me giving away my pass code.
Up to 40 xones and/or sensors of varying types can be installed and all is connected/checked/controlled by wireless Ultra HF network. And it’s entirely portable… should I move… sell, etc.
Hocka Louis
Sorry. Didn’t mean to sound like a vic… it’s apparently just my time in the barrel.
KingContraryMan
Hey! Tanks! That’s a good idea for the $$$ I’m sure.
As for product knowledge, well, I’m sure learning fast about who does what and for how much… the part I don’t know is how well, how long, are the spots of info I need … I think.
I believe I got took on the 930 SPX buy. I asked for an SPX… An SPX was reputedly ordered by the gun ‘seller’ via their distributor, but I found out today my 930 TM (printed/engraved) into the barrel, says nothing about SPX… anywhere on it! Nada.
Doesn’t Mossberg engrave the specific model #s onto their barrels entirely? Shouldn’t a 930 SPX…. Say “930 SPX” RIGHT ON IT?
Mine does not.
It reads: 930 TM…. And looks somewhat like one of the SPX versions … non PG… NON Ghost ring… Non Fiber optic winged front post sight… but does have 18.5 barrle…. Mag tube extension… front sight is fixed/welded and tall with tall ears… Rear sight is adj… but no more than a normal peep sight with elevation and windage adj., which do me absolutely no good. and it has a Pick Rail atop the receiver… das eet! $668 out the door from , well I’ll not say just yet as some investigation is supposedly ongoing by the seller to verify which model it really is.
.
I will personally call Mossberg tomorrow to verify if they leavel info off their guns as a policy.. Perhaps things have changed in a few decades. Used to be whatever model # of gun I bought, regardless the maker, the model # was engraved onto the gun barrel… and some even put the serial # right there too!
Engraving costs must have gone up since then. A lot.
On the light frontier I’ll probably default to sure or stream.. and blow off Fenix, Coast, etc.
blindjim
member
I've got to give all the people here a lot of credit in helping me out with some of these concerns.
I've got to thank Mossberg as well for their input and assistance.
Thanks sincerely.
Today I resolved some items regarding the outfitting of my 930 SPX I picked up on the 1st. Mossberg is going to let me get a OEM PG stock in exchange for my own.
I also chose some other items to help improve on an already decent gun, by deciding on some Nordic Components, like a 2 rnd MAG tube ext... Barrle and tube brace w/rail. Maybe the reciever bolt handle too.
chose a Streamlight TLR2X AND mounting rail from Flashlight Distributors. 200 lumens... Simple light.
I'm deciding on a hand held rechargeable for GP... Fenix... Coast... Olite... not sure yet.
Also got most of my new home intruder alert devices in place. The Simon XT arrived today too, despite the 5 inches of rainfall we had so far today. More is expected through the weekend..
So, it's all about done for now, apart from running a few hundred rds of 3 in ammo thru this SG. I read where using 3 in expressly for the first several hundred rounds can eliminate mishaps with chambering.
Going forward a 45 auto will be the likely choice real soon. By who? Beats me. It should be interesting picking out one though.
I think I'm going to like getting back into shooting now. It's a cinch I'll not be entering any more competitions, or matches though.
thanks for all the help again.
I've got to thank Mossberg as well for their input and assistance.
Thanks sincerely.
Today I resolved some items regarding the outfitting of my 930 SPX I picked up on the 1st. Mossberg is going to let me get a OEM PG stock in exchange for my own.
I also chose some other items to help improve on an already decent gun, by deciding on some Nordic Components, like a 2 rnd MAG tube ext... Barrle and tube brace w/rail. Maybe the reciever bolt handle too.
chose a Streamlight TLR2X AND mounting rail from Flashlight Distributors. 200 lumens... Simple light.
I'm deciding on a hand held rechargeable for GP... Fenix... Coast... Olite... not sure yet.
Also got most of my new home intruder alert devices in place. The Simon XT arrived today too, despite the 5 inches of rainfall we had so far today. More is expected through the weekend..
So, it's all about done for now, apart from running a few hundred rds of 3 in ammo thru this SG. I read where using 3 in expressly for the first several hundred rounds can eliminate mishaps with chambering.
Going forward a 45 auto will be the likely choice real soon. By who? Beats me. It should be interesting picking out one though.
I think I'm going to like getting back into shooting now. It's a cinch I'll not be entering any more competitions, or matches though.
thanks for all the help again.
KingContraryMan
Member
As far as choosing a .45 Jim, the recommendations would be endless
I'm not a collector, I just wanted one good, reliable auto so I bought the Springfield 1911 Mil-Spec in stainless. I looooove that thing!
I'm not a collector, I just wanted one good, reliable auto so I bought the Springfield 1911 Mil-Spec in stainless. I looooove that thing!
blindjim
member
KingContraryMan
1911 Springfield. It sure fits what you were looking for, I’ll guarantee that!
I think I’ll toss this one around for a while. I’m prone to revolvers anyhow. That said, I enjoy them both and feel an auto a very good choice for around the house. For around anywhere I suppose.
Primarily, I love what that caliber does. In ACP or LC. Albeit I’d drop down on the ACP weight some from 240 to under 200. Quicker to shoot and regain the target IMHO.
I’ll go with something more slimlined than the Springer if I go auto.
1911 Springfield. It sure fits what you were looking for, I’ll guarantee that!
I think I’ll toss this one around for a while. I’m prone to revolvers anyhow. That said, I enjoy them both and feel an auto a very good choice for around the house. For around anywhere I suppose.
Primarily, I love what that caliber does. In ACP or LC. Albeit I’d drop down on the ACP weight some from 240 to under 200. Quicker to shoot and regain the target IMHO.
I’ll go with something more slimlined than the Springer if I go auto.
Just saw this yesterday. I use the Laserguard that activates in a similar manner and it works well.
http://www.crimsontrace.com/tabid/632/Default.aspx
http://www.crimsontrace.com/tabid/632/Default.aspx
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Jim - I understand and sympathize with your eyesight (-6.5 left/-7.25 right).
On one side of the bed is a wall rack with a 12 ga. side-by-side w/double triggers, meaning I can fire both barrels at the same time. One side is 00 Buck and the other is #4 Buck (49 pellets total). I drop that and grab an AK with a 40 round banana in it. 
I also have an old .38 in a nearby drawer.
Jim - I understand and sympathize with your eyesight (-6.5 left/-7.25 right).
On one side of the bed is a wall rack with a 12 ga. side-by-side w/double triggers, meaning I can fire both barrels at the same time. One side is 00 Buck and the other is #4 Buck (49 pellets total).
I drop that and grab an AK with a 40 round banana in it. I also have an old .38 in a nearby drawer.blindjim
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eeK!? Is a real understatement man!
I’d not want to encounter any of those weapons. Ready or not.
“Crime is to be expected since humans are never perfect. But the failure of Justice may be more damaging to Society than the crime itself.” - - Clarence Darrow
As much wisdom is contained within those words, I think Chuckie was a bit off target for today’s dynamic…. Perhaps in his day as well. There was far less then than there is now.
Today’s crime has altogether new perpetrators & categories… like girls doing the breakins… girls doing the robberies… violence.. and nonsenseical things such as just for fun! …just for status… just as a dare! … and I don’t thin Chuck saw nearly the atrophy drugs have infested our society with quite so vividly becoming the issue it is today.
In a valueless society, price is king. Money is the end all and be all. Formerly priceless qualities such as integrity, character, truth and honesty are left to wither and die on the vine for they are encumberances to the fast track of life. Those well oiled rails that carry swiftly those of less er credit, those without grit, perseverance, and faith to their own avaricious ends, are the self same means to a society bent towards atrophy and selfish rewards.
So long as we are able to tolerate it, enable it to be lucrative, and unable to commit to reforming our perspectives on it, and our methods of adjudicating it, crime will both endure and grow, with great pleasure.
I’d not want to encounter any of those weapons. Ready or not.
“Crime is to be expected since humans are never perfect. But the failure of Justice may be more damaging to Society than the crime itself.” - - Clarence Darrow
As much wisdom is contained within those words, I think Chuckie was a bit off target for today’s dynamic…. Perhaps in his day as well. There was far less then than there is now.
Today’s crime has altogether new perpetrators & categories… like girls doing the breakins… girls doing the robberies… violence.. and nonsenseical things such as just for fun! …just for status… just as a dare! … and I don’t thin Chuck saw nearly the atrophy drugs have infested our society with quite so vividly becoming the issue it is today.
In a valueless society, price is king. Money is the end all and be all. Formerly priceless qualities such as integrity, character, truth and honesty are left to wither and die on the vine for they are encumberances to the fast track of life. Those well oiled rails that carry swiftly those of less er credit, those without grit, perseverance, and faith to their own avaricious ends, are the self same means to a society bent towards atrophy and selfish rewards.
So long as we are able to tolerate it, enable it to be lucrative, and unable to commit to reforming our perspectives on it, and our methods of adjudicating it, crime will both endure and grow, with great pleasure.
"I’m looking into motion detectors I can place in the yard which will indicate an alarm condition inside by some sort of enunciator, slient or audible or both. And a monitored system perhaps following that."
Back in '08 when gas prices hit 4 bucks I got a "Voice Alert" wireless alarm. It came with a base unit and one IR detector I mounted in a tree next to my car in the driveway (wife gets the garage). The base unit will handle 4 detectors.
Never did catch anyone but it trained her dog to go berserk when I got home from work since I feed him at night.
Back in '08 when gas prices hit 4 bucks I got a "Voice Alert" wireless alarm. It came with a base unit and one IR detector I mounted in a tree next to my car in the driveway (wife gets the garage). The base unit will handle 4 detectors.
Never did catch anyone but it trained her dog to go berserk when I got home from work since I feed him at night.
klutchless
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A smith and wesson m&p is a great choice for a .45 the one I picked up came with two mags and night sights for 380 bucks but it was used.You can find them all over the place online for around 400 and most are nib.
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Jim -- The advice already posted here is a treasure trove. I have to add only my best wishes in your pursuit of prudent security. Keep up the good fight.
Regards,
Derry
Regards,
Derry
blindjim
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I was about to pull the trigger on a Chamberlain 4 zone outfit that fit that bill. The new one is 8 zone. The older one used to sell everywhere for $139 - $149…. Now everyone has risen their prices, and or, are selling the new model ‘ala cart’ Base unit and one sensor, $60 - $71. Some have the extra sensors… some do not.
I did manage to find some at Wal mart though.. not sure which model though.. 4 – 8? Beats me. Likely the 4 zone unit. $60 for base + one sensor (I believe). $32 for ea sensor. Reviews on the Chamberlain setup have placed it well into the “not junk works as adv’d.” category.
It makes a different sound for each zone. Other’s are fancier, using as many as 8 and your own voice to indicate which area is being activated. That one goes for $199 + ship I think.
As for outside motion detectors which use interior enunciators, I’ve decided to go with Motion detecting Cameras. MD Cameras & DVR which notify you with photos or text message to a cell when an event occurs. And/or with an email. Fully Networked. Browser enabled viewing. Sector addressed monitoring. Any TV or PC monitor works for previewing. Upgradable 500GB HDD with 264 compression, and aVI/Divx Set to record periodically, daily, at detected events. PTZ cameras controlled by joy stick on DVR… or by USB mouse. Store video info anywhere… Cloud, Flash, USB, or NAS drives, etc. supplied cameras range, 30 ft day or night. Color & Black & white. Max resolution 1268 x 720.
Plug & play outfit security in a box! Everything but a display is included. $599 by Security Labs out of IN, available at Home Depot.
The cameras aren’t anything to be hot & heavy about, but for now they’ll do. The flexibility and connectivity and upgradeability of the DVR, and the added support for 4 more alert devices like heat, water, smoke,.motion. sound, end of time, Letterman, etc. are a big plus for me.
Able to change the camera types, PTZ… SOUND… more LEDs for night vision… IR cameras. upgrade the DVR. Interact with the system from anywhere! Be notified about an event anywhere! Sounds good to me.
klutchless
Great news. Tanks. I’ll look into that one. I like SW.
I’ve yet to buy a weapon online. Haven’t a clue how to go about it. It seems I should have done that with my SPX buy.
Derry 1946
You know? I believe you!
I finally got a night’s sleep without jerking awake grabbing the SPX and sliding off the bed & onto the floor and easing out of the bedroom into the darkness..
For even more peace of mind, I added half of the items today I will need to attach so I can secure a reasonable light, mounting kit, barrel and mag tube support brace, and a + 2 mag tube extention… all from Nordic Components.
AS for the lighting, that’s coming from betterflashlight dot com, from them I’ll be adding a Streamlight TLR 2X as they begin to release some new x series models. The light holder is a Streamlight FL holder too I think. The X series bumps up the output to 200 lumens.
The OEM O.F. Mossberg PG butt stock should be here this week.
The Alarm sys is up and logged on. Currently being monitored ala a 3rd party.
Flood Lights will be burning by weeks end if the rain quits for a day or so.
I suppose science has progressed past a clean T Shirt, some string, a small paint brush or two, a nickel washer, and some 3-n-One oil as a shot gun cleaning kit, right?
Notes online say OFM greases ‘em up prior to shipping ‘em out. Mine is almost completely dry! Inside and out. I can not detect any excess grease, lube, jelly, nada. It’s as dry as a demo in a gun shop. Maybe too dry is my thinking.
I’m figuring to lube that action some… something lite though. WD 40?
Any ideas on cleaning, kits, lubes, etc. Sure would be appreciated. Tanks.
I was about to pull the trigger on a Chamberlain 4 zone outfit that fit that bill. The new one is 8 zone. The older one used to sell everywhere for $139 - $149…. Now everyone has risen their prices, and or, are selling the new model ‘ala cart’ Base unit and one sensor, $60 - $71. Some have the extra sensors… some do not.
I did manage to find some at Wal mart though.. not sure which model though.. 4 – 8? Beats me. Likely the 4 zone unit. $60 for base + one sensor (I believe). $32 for ea sensor. Reviews on the Chamberlain setup have placed it well into the “not junk works as adv’d.” category.
It makes a different sound for each zone. Other’s are fancier, using as many as 8 and your own voice to indicate which area is being activated. That one goes for $199 + ship I think.
As for outside motion detectors which use interior enunciators, I’ve decided to go with Motion detecting Cameras. MD Cameras & DVR which notify you with photos or text message to a cell when an event occurs. And/or with an email. Fully Networked. Browser enabled viewing. Sector addressed monitoring. Any TV or PC monitor works for previewing. Upgradable 500GB HDD with 264 compression, and aVI/Divx Set to record periodically, daily, at detected events. PTZ cameras controlled by joy stick on DVR… or by USB mouse. Store video info anywhere… Cloud, Flash, USB, or NAS drives, etc. supplied cameras range, 30 ft day or night. Color & Black & white. Max resolution 1268 x 720.
Plug & play outfit security in a box! Everything but a display is included. $599 by Security Labs out of IN, available at Home Depot.
The cameras aren’t anything to be hot & heavy about, but for now they’ll do. The flexibility and connectivity and upgradeability of the DVR, and the added support for 4 more alert devices like heat, water, smoke,.motion. sound, end of time, Letterman, etc. are a big plus for me.
Able to change the camera types, PTZ… SOUND… more LEDs for night vision… IR cameras. upgrade the DVR. Interact with the system from anywhere! Be notified about an event anywhere! Sounds good to me.
klutchless
Great news. Tanks. I’ll look into that one. I like SW.
I’ve yet to buy a weapon online. Haven’t a clue how to go about it. It seems I should have done that with my SPX buy.
Derry 1946
You know? I believe you!
I finally got a night’s sleep without jerking awake grabbing the SPX and sliding off the bed & onto the floor and easing out of the bedroom into the darkness..
For even more peace of mind, I added half of the items today I will need to attach so I can secure a reasonable light, mounting kit, barrel and mag tube support brace, and a + 2 mag tube extention… all from Nordic Components.
AS for the lighting, that’s coming from betterflashlight dot com, from them I’ll be adding a Streamlight TLR 2X as they begin to release some new x series models. The light holder is a Streamlight FL holder too I think. The X series bumps up the output to 200 lumens.
The OEM O.F. Mossberg PG butt stock should be here this week.
The Alarm sys is up and logged on. Currently being monitored ala a 3rd party.
Flood Lights will be burning by weeks end if the rain quits for a day or so.
I suppose science has progressed past a clean T Shirt, some string, a small paint brush or two, a nickel washer, and some 3-n-One oil as a shot gun cleaning kit, right?
Notes online say OFM greases ‘em up prior to shipping ‘em out. Mine is almost completely dry! Inside and out. I can not detect any excess grease, lube, jelly, nada. It’s as dry as a demo in a gun shop. Maybe too dry is my thinking.
I’m figuring to lube that action some… something lite though. WD 40?
Any ideas on cleaning, kits, lubes, etc. Sure would be appreciated. Tanks.
Derry 1946
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Jim -- this website and the Colt Forum both have tons of great advice on how to clean, store, and preserve your firearms (depending on the finish and type). Just use the search feature. I have seen posts that advise against WD-40, and there are certainly many products specifically for guns. I hear a lot of great things about Renaissance Wax (aka Ren Wax), although I have not tried it myself yet. Also, the folks at your local gunshop will probably be happy to tell you what they know about gun care and maintenance.
BTW, without my glasses, I am legally blind, and my Dad has macular degeneration. He's an artist, so you can imagine what that's like. We are fortunate to live in a day and age when there are many tools to compensate for what nature takes away.
Regards,
Derry
BTW, without my glasses, I am legally blind, and my Dad has macular degeneration. He's an artist, so you can imagine what that's like. We are fortunate to live in a day and age when there are many tools to compensate for what nature takes away.
Regards,
Derry
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Derry 1946
Tanks. I'll snoop around here and the web on the 45 cal options and the gun cleaning designs for todays guns.
I sue all sorts of gizmos and such, from software, to talking scanners & caller I. D. units. So I can apprciate where you are coming from. Kudo's to your Dad.
Everyone has some challenge. Sone are on the inside, and some are exposed for everyone to see... but if and when we can see these obstacles, then we can make the efforts to set them aside and mitigate the damage or trouble they cause us.
Good luck.
RE: My local gun store? lol.
It wouldn't take too long for them to tell me what they know about guns ingeneral.
The place I bought this most recent 930 SPX, my last gun purchase in 30+ years will be the last gun I buy from them, very likely. Excepting were I to stumble in there and onto some killer deal.
They are very nice people... really. But simply not knowledgeable about their fire arm products.
Not IMHO, well at least in the area of OF Moss & sons products. And, they're exceptionally high priced... and admittedly so by at least one account… and now two. They strike me as a ‘bowling alley’ for guns... a shooting range primarily, guns and accessories sales thereafter. I understand there is one person there which actually knows a lot about guns, but I've yet to meet him. A lady there did do her best to help me throughout, so I'll give her that. She was quite nice, and pretty professional.
Definitely nice enough folks.. just not your true gun joint.
There are some quite knowledgeable sorts around this area on these matter. I found out a few so far.
BTW... unwilling to wait for the latest greatest Streamlite light cannon TL 2x, yet to be released, I went with the Cheaper Than Dirt offering, Leader light assembly, 200 lumen.. solution. $58 incl'd ship.
Given the reviews being predominately very positive, with a small section being a bit frustrated, albeit none said it was outright junk, I hope I get a stud … not a dud. It seems the remote pressure sw can be trouble at times. Op error? Or poor QA? We’ll see. AS it eats batteries alive, I’ll see about a 123 charger & some 123 rechargeable batteries..
klutchless
BTW … tanks again, on the SW M&P models. Nice call.
I also like the idea of a single stack clip ordinarily as most double types can be a real handful of gun and make one feel like their barely hanging onto it. Routinely the standard 1911A frame. An M&P 45 does sound very interesting.
I suppose that does it then for this thread… all of those posting here have my deepest sentiments of appreciation, and gratitude. Thank you.
Tanks. I'll snoop around here and the web on the 45 cal options and the gun cleaning designs for todays guns.
I sue all sorts of gizmos and such, from software, to talking scanners & caller I. D. units. So I can apprciate where you are coming from. Kudo's to your Dad.
Everyone has some challenge. Sone are on the inside, and some are exposed for everyone to see... but if and when we can see these obstacles, then we can make the efforts to set them aside and mitigate the damage or trouble they cause us.
Good luck.
RE: My local gun store? lol.
It wouldn't take too long for them to tell me what they know about guns ingeneral.
The place I bought this most recent 930 SPX, my last gun purchase in 30+ years will be the last gun I buy from them, very likely. Excepting were I to stumble in there and onto some killer deal.
They are very nice people... really. But simply not knowledgeable about their fire arm products.
Not IMHO, well at least in the area of OF Moss & sons products. And, they're exceptionally high priced... and admittedly so by at least one account… and now two. They strike me as a ‘bowling alley’ for guns... a shooting range primarily, guns and accessories sales thereafter. I understand there is one person there which actually knows a lot about guns, but I've yet to meet him. A lady there did do her best to help me throughout, so I'll give her that. She was quite nice, and pretty professional.
Definitely nice enough folks.. just not your true gun joint.
There are some quite knowledgeable sorts around this area on these matter. I found out a few so far.
BTW... unwilling to wait for the latest greatest Streamlite light cannon TL 2x, yet to be released, I went with the Cheaper Than Dirt offering, Leader light assembly, 200 lumen.. solution. $58 incl'd ship.
Given the reviews being predominately very positive, with a small section being a bit frustrated, albeit none said it was outright junk, I hope I get a stud … not a dud. It seems the remote pressure sw can be trouble at times. Op error? Or poor QA? We’ll see. AS it eats batteries alive, I’ll see about a 123 charger & some 123 rechargeable batteries..
klutchless
BTW … tanks again, on the SW M&P models. Nice call.
I also like the idea of a single stack clip ordinarily as most double types can be a real handful of gun and make one feel like their barely hanging onto it. Routinely the standard 1911A frame. An M&P 45 does sound very interesting.
I suppose that does it then for this thread… all of those posting here have my deepest sentiments of appreciation, and gratitude. Thank you.
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