Neck sizing problems with 30-06 brass

Status
Not open for further replies.
Lennyjoe

Lennyjoe

Member
Joined
Dec 24, 2002
Messages
8,278
Location
Southwestern Ohio
Got an issue that I figured you'd all could help me with.

Here's the issue. Im using once fired Winchester brass in a Lee Single stage press and Lee RGB 30-06 dies. I have cleaned the cases and lubed them accordingly. When I go to size and deprime the brass, the die will only let the neck go in about 1/4 of the way. First I thought I had the deprimer pin too low but thats not the case. I tried to take a pic but dont have a good enough cam so here's the best one I got.

f589c5e9.jpg


Question is, how far down the neck do I need to go? Im assuming most all the way to the taper of the shell.

I have been reloading shotshell and now pistol rounds but just started trying out rifle rounds.

Standing by for words.....................
 
Last edited:
General rule of thumb is you want at least a caliber-width of neck grip on the bullet. You're close, but not quite there.
 
My buddy just got done doing some .270 and his dies wont size the neck at all. Brass wont go in high enough to size the neck. Im beginning to wonder if it aint my Lee single stage press.
 
How are you verifying that it's only going 1/4 of the way in? Is there visible resizing of the neck when you extract the case?
If so, I'd keep incrementally screwing the die in and resizing the case. It should basically work it's way down the neck as you screw it in closer and closer to the point at which it would bump the shoulder back and full size.
 
There is visible evidence of resizing. But it seems like I have to put quite a bit of pressure on the press to get that far. Almost to the point where the press is gonna distruct.

I have it now to where it will resize half way down the neck.

I am gonna pull apart the die, clean and lube, reset and then see how that works out.
 
If you're exerting that much pressure and the brass isn't getting crushed, there's something in the press itself that's getting in the way (brass soft, steel hard). ;)
 
I am lubing the cases due to the dies being RGB instead of carbide.

I have tried Remington and Winchester brass with the same result.

Heading out to the reloading bench now to see whats up.

More to follow............
 
Actually, I wouldn't lube the outside of the neck at all. It'll build up in the die and dimple the shoulders on the cases.
 
I don't believe he was trying to neck size with a FL die. I believe he was a rookie who didn't know what he was doing. :) After a few thousand more pulls of the handle, he'll have it all figured out. :)
 
Quote: After a few thousand more pulls of the handle, he'll have it all figured out.

Or maybe not!

After several million pulls on the handles, I still seem to learn something new everytime I go in the shop and start "pulling"! One of them is that 30yrs experience is different than one years experience 30 times. Sometimes, I can be really forgetfull !
 
I was using the older dies but it was doing the same thing with the carbide lee dies my buddy was using on his .270

Either way, I prepped 50 rounds and will powder and bullet them tomorrow.
 
And another question that I don't understand...I load .30-06 on a regular basis. I have never encountered the problem that he seems to have incurred. I full size my cases. Is it that he is just neck sizing them or are they getting stuck in the die? When lubing my cases I use a RCBS pad and I also run a lubed brush into the neck.
 
I full size as well. The fact was the case wasnt going all the way up into the die. Lube seems to cure that.

I have come a long way in the last 3 weeks.

FYI, I have shot over 100 of my reloaded 30-06 rounds and nothing has come apart yet. :)
 
So, who makes carbide dies in .270? Also, still seems to me that you're f.l. and not neck sizing. If you want to neck size only, why not just get neck-sizing dies?
 
You only need to lube the sides of the case, not the neck, and especially not the shoulder.

You can full length resize brass without lube- it just takes a little harder pull on the handle- unfortunately unlubed brass has a tendancy to stick in the die wich is made worse when you rip the rim off the case trying to unstick it, hence the reason for lubing cases.

If you use a Lee collet neck sizing die, you will not need to lube anything- the only contact the brass has with the die is a collet which squeazes the neck around a mandrel. Its a very handy die to have if you are only shooting the brass in one gun and that gun happens to be a bolt action :cool:
 
You only need to lube the sides of the case, not the neck, and especially not the shoulder.
Click to expand...
You do need to lube the inside of the case necks, unless you're using a carbide expander button. You're correct about the outside of the neck and dimpling. I've run cases through without inside neck lube before, but they require much more force to pull out from the die and I don't think it does the brass much good.
 
Lennyjoe,

I'm not being a smart a**, but I'd like to suggest you buy a stuck case removing kit. RCBS sells them for aroud $12. If you ever stick a case in a sizing die, this kit will remove the case in about five minutes. Please don't ask me how I know this. I embarass easily. Good luck and God bless.

Bob

P.S. Everyone I know eventually stick a a case in a die, EVERYONE.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

C
  • Locked
30-06 on Dillon 550B?
Replies
6
Views
1K
dmazur
D
R
  • Locked
Bullets very loose in neck after resizing
2 3
Replies
60
Views
12K
Redbearded1
R
S
  • Locked
Real dumb question (please go easy on me!)
Replies
21
Views
833
<SLV>
S
magnatecman
  • Locked
How do you neck size for .204 Ruger???
Replies
12
Views
1K
helotaxi
H
E
  • Locked
neck sizeing revisited again
Replies
5
Views
508
243winxb
243winxb
Back
Top