Need a new pocket knife

[hso]

Folks,

He's in the UK and the law there says no locks and blade lengths of 2.5" or less (unless he can show that he's engaged in an activity that requires a locking longer blade). Think of it as one of those "positive defense to prosecution" statements in laws here. The presumption of guilt exists until he demonstrates that he had a permissible reason to carry a longer or locking blade.

Of course the same rules exist in some U.S. cities as well.

 

[sm]

hso,
Thanks for reminding folks where the author of this thread is located.

Everyone-
hso and I my appear to be at opposite ends in regard to knife matters, we are not.
He understands my practical, minimalist perspectives, as he knows a lot of why I do share my perspectives, and he is one of a few that knows some things about me personally.

Now I ask for a bit more leeway if I may.

http://www.britishblades.com/forums/

doc jake,

First off I ain't no "colonial" I are a Southern Boy - there is a difference.. *wink*

You are not the only UK member or member 'Restricted" by legislation, Fosbery is another, and my buddy Spinner in New Zealand is as well - just for starters.

British Blade forums has some super nice members, great moderators and one Sub-forum shares British Laws.

Yes. I am in the Southern United States and I am a member of that forum.
I lurked for a short time, after finding it, and wanting to better research and learn about the UK and Restrictions.

I really and truly am angered by such Legislations in the UK NZ and other countries.
I wanted to educate myself in many areas - one being how UK got into the fix they are, and learning from such History, to better recognize and defend against the same enemy - Tyranny here in the USA.

I care dammit!
Internet is Global - and it is quite rude to not include our brothers and sisters in other countries when we post.

UK, NZ and other countries contribute so much to THR, and other US Internet Fora. Thank you.

So I don't really give a rat's butt what TEEM SEEL 37.5 recommends for a knife this week.
I don't give a bull chip about what some hot babe in less clothes than material my handkerchief has, used for a tac-tickle knife doing back flips to take out the hordes of mutant ninja zombies in the latest movie.

I want to know my enemy - Tyranny- that restricts knives in the UK, NZ and elsewhere.
I want to know how to fight and beat the SOB in my country, and in my locale.
Know the scent, the tract, habits, and how to better prevent, and defeat Tyranny.

TEEM SEEL 37.5 cannot get the newspaper off the porch or mail from mailbox without a Bat-Belt and 82.9 pounds of guns, knives, tack-tickle gear and 30 round AR mags.

They would not know Tyranny if he walked up and said "boo" and if he did they would wet their pants.

Mentors & Elders I speak of.
Some were/are Ladies and Gents that had time in places where Restrictions were dead serious.
If the guard at the checkpoint did not like something - they shot you on the spot.

Fighting for Freedom with a small pen-knife .
These folks had to get from point A to point B, and there was a checkpoint in between.
Information to save lives and preserve freedom, and they had a small pen-knife they concealed and hoped was not found on person.

Preserving and Fighting Freedom - and what information they had, saved lives.
Police, and Military watching checkpoints, railway stations, folks on the street, eating in an establishment....

Maybe they had a small Beretta tip up automatic pistol, that they were deadly proficient with, or maybe not.
That small pen-knife was that valuable a tool!

When they used the knife, they were very discreet in presenting and using.
Maybe doing nails, cutting a thread or food prep with others as other countries do unlike the USA.
Under the watchful eyes of uniformed and plainclothes Police of the State.

Police turns his back and it takes him 17 seconds to reach the corner, turn so the sharp pen blade finishes inserting information in the inseam of clothing written in pencil sharpened d by that knife, or cloth written upon with fountain pen. Cloth does not "crinkle" and make a sound when patted down and searched.


In a dark ally after dark, the person in plains clothes (Police) that has been following all late afternoon, enters; the second inset back door that exits into the alley, he passes, eyes still focused on the person he is following.

Too late! Two figures emerge, one holds the follower, the second inserts a sharp stick, or sharpened pencil, sharpened by a very small pen knife and the half of brick hammers the stick into ear, or jugular vein ...

Tyranny lost ,Freedom won that round - mindset, tactic and equipment - the Triad of survival, again proved true.

History is a great teacher and I damn sure miss some Mentors.

 

[hopkin]

Doc jake, do you know the law for a general carry knife is under 3"/76mm, not 2.5"?

I won't recommend knives as this thread on British Blades has them all:
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26459

I have a Spyderco UK penknife and love it. They're out of production and have gone up in price recently.

The knives I see most are SAKs, stockman knives (various brands) and then Spyderco UKPK or Fallkniven U1 among the people who like knives as more than tools but don't want to go for the very expensive ones.

 

[doc jake]

SM,
My sincerest apologies sir. Only wish we could have sent you some more Whitworth rifles back in early 1862.
I know you “miss some mentors”, however have you considered that some of us consider you a mentor.
To be honest I wasn’t aware that the law allowed up to 3 inch blades. Opens the field up some more. While I do like knifes of all types, and yes I have a few modern ish ones (very early Chris Reeves shadow, won it in a competition) for general every day carry I’m in complete agreement with SM’s post. Better to have a plain knife that if people do see won’t draw attention, rather than a trip to the local police station while they check your details.
Think I will be visiting local junk shops and car boot sales for the next few weekends to see what I can find. I will of course post pictures when I do find it.
I would add as someone who twice had to surrender legally owned firearms, all it takes for you to lose any freedom to a government is complacence. When we lost the right to own certain types of rifles over here I heard fellow shooters saying “it’s ok it’s not my discipline, better not get involved it will only draw attention to us”.

 

[sm]

doc jake,

Seriously, great to have met you here on THR!
Umm...if'n you run across some Tim-Tams you ain't gonna be needing...*grin*


Do check out the forum I linked to earlier, I find the civil discussions most informative.
Not just the legal, and various interpretations and how some real life incidents have been dealt with, also some great leather working tips, and other knife information.

There a lot of similarities of what occurred in the UK and what is happening here.

Best Regards,

Steve

 

[Il Duca]

Case XX makes some fine knives that would fit your criteria.

 

[sixgunner455]

Case 62032 is a two bladed jackknife, just a bit longer than the Peanut, gives more handle to hold onto.

SAK Executive - again, just enough bigger than the Classic to get usefulness points from me. Pocket Pal, too.

But really, anything along these lines will do what you need to.

 

[eliphalet]

Stockman's come in several sizes, and are hard to beat for everyday carry, one's been in my pocket daily since the 60's. A three bladed knife is my choice and I sharpen one blade with a steep angle to use for jobs that are hard on a blades edge and two that are kept razor sharp for other work. Case make a good knife, Buck used to and in many eyes still does, I am just not much of a fan of the steel now used even though one is in my pocket as I write this. Impeccable customer service is why.

 

[Stainz]

I discovered the Buck #503 'Prince' - finally - at a local Wally World - great deal for $25. Certainly doesn't 'print' in the pocket like my usual 110 did. A more useful blade, to me, than my old friend, a #301 Stockman. I still like Bucks! Of course, another EDC these days, at least since last spring, is the Spyderco s30V Native - a $40 bargain from that same dratted source. These less than 3" knives are 'sufficient' for my knife duties... but I just miss the 110 in my pocket... it was a workhorse, even if a bit of overkill for opening the mail, slicing fruit, etc (It is relatively easy, with a clean record, to get a CCL in Alabama... a .38 or .44 in the pocket is much more 'comforting' in some areas!).

Stainz

 

[lookshigh123]

How about Victorinox Swiss Pocket Knife..