Words I never thought would come out of my GF's mouth

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xenophon

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Sorry for the long post, but I think you'll like it.

Ok, so a little background. I got my first handgun about a year ago. Living with the girlfriend and of course it was brought into the apartment despite her objections. She says she hates guns and never wants to see it. A bit of arguing about the benefits of having one, but she won't hear it. So I'm with an anti-gunner. A pretty bad one too, it took a lot of arguing to keep that gun in the apartment just to give you an idea.

Over the next couple months, I try to work on her, invite her to the range just to try it out. Nope, she still won't even touch it or learn how to even operate it. I tell her stories of women using firearms for self defense off and on, but much to no avail. This was about the time the WI CCW law was going through the Legislature, so of course she noticed me working hard to get that passed.

So about 9 months later, she's to the point where she'll let me clean it in front of her. Ok, a little bit of progress, but she still won't touch it. Invitations to range are still turned down, but apparantely her girlfriend is with a guy who just joined the police academy and she said she would only go to the range if her other anti-gun friend went with her so we could all go together. A little more progress, I just need to get her friend that lives an hour and a half away to make the trip up here.

So a couple more months pass, of course the WI CCW didn't pass. BAH. Anyways, just last night I get home from work and we're just sitting around watching tv. I was reading my new glock reference guide book next to her. She looks at my book and says the following: "You know, if CCW passes in WI next year, I want to get my permit and a gun." :what: Of course, I pinch myself to see if I'm awake. "What did you just say?" I ask her. And she says "I want to get my permit if CCW passes in WI ever".

I didn't act surprised at all, I was just too dumbfounded. I asked her why the sudden change. She said she was watching an episode of Beverly Hills 90210 (syndication which she watches religously) and in the latest episode, one of the girls was being stalked or something and was given a revolver by her boyfriend, and at one point in the show, got cornered in a room by the bad guy rapist and used the gun to protect herself.

I guess a light bulb finally went on in her head and my lectures about why self defense is important and one should always be prepared finally clicked. Thank God for 90210, California actually did something good for a change.

So I ask her if she wanted to use my Glock 19 (my only gun) when she gets her permit, and she said no, she wanted to go pick one out herself :evil: . Of course, this is all depending on WI passing CCW, but at least that gives me the rest of this year to get her to the range and some training. 90210, who would've imagined.........

On a different note, when I was visting my sister in FL last month, when I told her about my gun she said "You know, I want to get one of those, I would get a permit and would probably carry if I had one of those." This coming from a girl who was a very liberal, snobby, sorority girl a few years back, who never in a million years would I have thought would have wanted to own, let alone carry a firearm. Just goes to show you never know.

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90210 had a favorable portrayal of gun use? I may have to reconsider my judgements of that show!

However, I can't help but feel that it's... odd she would take that warning to heart while essentially ignoring your own. :neener:

Congratulations about the conversion, though.
 
WOW.
Of course you'll have to rush out and buy a new .22 "training" pistol worthy of keeping forever, since you'll have (maybe) two newbies to show the ropes, what with cheap ammo and low (if any) recoil, just to have "On Hand" when WI CCW does pass.
Then, a gun shop excursion or two, to get the female toe in the water as it were and to see what's available at what prices, etc...
Good luck X.
 
I didn't act surprised at all, I was just too dumbfounded. I asked her why the sudden change. She said she was watching an episode of Beverly Hills 90210 (syndication which she watches religously) and in the latest episode, one of the girls was being stalked or something and was given a revolver by her boyfriend, and at one point in the show, got cornered in a room by the bad guy rapist and used the gun to protect herself.

She's basing her decision on something she sees on a (overtly (as opposed to network nooz)) fictious TV show?
 
However, I can't help but feel that it's... odd she would take that warning to heart while essentially ignoring your own.
Yeah I know, I just don't know what goes through the minds of some women ;) Er, correction, ALL women.
Of course you'll have to rush out and buy a new .22 "training" pistol worthy of keeping forever, since you'll have (maybe) two newbies to show the ropes, what with cheap ammo and low (if any) recoil, just to have "On Hand" when WI CCW does pass.
Ah yes, the joys of shopping, now I have a good excuse to go do that, good point!
She's basing her decision on something she sees on a (overtly (as opposed to network nooz)) fictious TV show?
I guess to each their own...but whatever get it done. She doesn't watch the news (despises it). I know it's a fictious TV show, but the situation portrayed in the show (rapist cornerning a women) could be related to real life, no?

x
 
That's a great turnaround! You handled it well and didn't force it. Luckily she "saw" how a gun can be used and didn't find out the hard way.

My wife bought her first gun a few months back, a Ruger MK II pistola. Very important to let them pick it. Now she wants a CCW and a gun for that!
 
Now how are you going to convince her that if she did ever shoot a BG, he would not actually go flying back 6 feet in the air? :scrutiny:
 
Good for her, as eyeryone needs protection; especially
the female gender! I've told this story many times over,
and its posted here amist the files of THR. This time I
will only hit the highlight reel.

I started with handguns around 1969 or 1970? Buying
a few here and there as my funds would allow. Some
where in the very early 70's (maybe 72 or 73, I can't
remember) I invited my lovely wife to the range which
really wasn't a range so to speak; just a good long
clearing with an adequate backstop, away from roads
or residential areas. At this point, she had never cared
much about firearms in general. Case in point, after a
brief period of hesitation she accepted my offer. Once
there, I coaxed her into trying out a few of my guns
that I had brought along. One was a really new 70's
vintage 6" barrel Colt Python. All the handloads I had
were kind'a warm; but not excessive. They were the
much coveted 146 grain Speer JHP's, traveling right at
1200-1250 fps. I allowed here to take control of the
Colt, as I gave the command to load six rounds and
holster. When the line (nobody present but me and
her) was clear, I gave the command to move forward
(from about 80 yards, up to about 50) and commence
firing. After the first pull of the trigger, when the flames
came roaring out of the barrel; I thought she was going
to throw the new Colt down on the ground!~:uhoh:
Needless to say, after she was involved in a terrible
and horriffic car-jacking on Oct. 13th, 1994 her views
have changed; and she carries a firearm religiously
everyday. GOD IS GREAT! Many thanks to him, she
wasn't seriously injured. So, back to what I said-
ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS NEED PROTECTION!

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
 
Well, kelTec has some designer colors, and some older Smiths and Springfields had colorful frames....:p
Well done. My wife was moderately anti when we started dating - she is on her 2nd permit and 7th handgun, finally found one she loves...right here...
 
Reality strikes people in different ways. Some dailey, some never at all. There is no accounting for what the trigger is.
 
Mine occasionally has a bout of anti-logic, but all it takes is a couple of seconds of logic from me and she's like "You, know... that's true..."

I've noticed MUCH progress in gun awareness... I live in the PRK, and I go to a CSU school... yet, many classmates I have talked to see the folly in gun control. I had one tell me today he was upset about CCW laws in california. I asked what kind of gun he had, and he replied that he had none...

His words: "I don't care for guns, but it's not MY gun, and it's not MY life. If a man wants to carry his gun, then by god let him carry it."

Amazing, I tell you.

If I'm seeing progress in a school that's a bastion of liberalism, I know that the situation in america at large is improving.

James
 
lee n. field

She's basing her decision on something she sees on a (overtly (as opposed to network nooz)) fictious TV show?
my thought EXACTLY.

xenophon, forget the gun issue for a moment - you REALLY need to have a serious talk with your woman about why she was unwilling to listen to you at all, over a period of months, when all the info resources and the object were under your shared roof, then suddenly reverses over a FRIKKIN' TV SHOW!?
 
Over many months he laid the foundation and he showed that all gun owners aren't nuts. Then one day a TV show hits the right chord and it was easy to come over to our side.

It was always an intellectual argument until she empathised with a charactor on TV.
 
Congrats on turning her away from the dark side. Be careful though, if she really starts liking guns a lot, yours won't be safe. She'll see one of yours that she likes and BAM, next thing you know, it's hers. I know, I've seen it happen.

Frank
 
She said she was watching an episode of Beverly Hills 90210 (syndication which she watches religously) and in the latest episode, one of the girls was being stalked
This is one of the scariest things about modern culture. The sheeple (no offence intended about your girlfriend here) culture does seem to have a near-religious preoccupation with its TV shows. The masses are led by a half a handful of ideologue scriptwriters.
 
xenophon, forget the gun issue for a moment - you REALLY need to have a serious talk with your woman about why she was unwilling to listen to you at all, over a period of months, when all the info resources and the object were under your shared roof, then suddenly reverses over a FRIKKIN' TV SHOW!?
Ah come on now, I did lay that groundwork down for many months. When a person is truly anti-gun, you can't convert them in 5 minutes right? Sometimes it takes time, and all of my logical arguments over a period of months, along with the exposure to my gun and my fighting for CCW imbedded in her brain and the final straw was seeing the tv show and thinking "wait a minute, what would I do if I was cornered in a room with just myself and a rapist??" And of course, I had sauteed her mind with my self defense ideology and she finally tied them together by seeing an example herself. Some people are auditory learners, she happens to be visual :)

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I saw the episode where Kelly (Jenny Garth) shot the rapist.

And I saw the episode where Brandon went to Dylan's house. Dylan
(Luke Perry)was in the shower and didn't hear the door, so idiot Brandon (Priestley) decides to break a window and get something or other out of Dylan's home. Or, maybe he was leaving something. Been awhile since I saw it...Anyway, Dylan hears the glass break as he leaves the shower, picks up his stainless Walther PPK/S and from a position of cover calls out to Brandon (whom he still hasn't seen) that he is armed and to intrude no further into his home.

Seems like pretty fair behavior to me so far, but Brandon erupts and tells Dylan that he shouldn't have had a gun because he might have shot his buddy, who was evidently on solid ground in breaking and entering. !!

Aaron Spelling, who produced, "Beverly Hills 90210", is deeply anti-gun, and I read a magazine interview where he bragged about the social positions he pushed on the show. That most definitely included being anti-gun. Also, the ugly gal (Gabriela Carteris?)who played the yearbook editor is an anti-gun activist. Thankfully, she left the show some time before the series ended.

I thought it was ironic that Dylan did the right thing, only to be lambasted for it by the liberal script writer. I'm glad the episode where Kelly drilled the rapist (she used an S&W Model 60, I believe) left a better impression in at least one female mind.

Most episodes of, "90210" that mentioned guns were not friendly to them. And one guy who pulled out a Buck No. 120 knife to carve a pumpkin at Halloween scared the liberal apple pie out of his date! In fact, I think that was Kelly again, and he later turned out to be the poster boy for one of the male/female abuse plotlines.

If I was Richard Nixon, I'd put Aaron Spelling on my "enemies" list. I'm glad that his "message" misfired some of the time!

Your girl may wish to subscribe to, "Women and Guns", which will reinforce her willingness to accept handguns as something a decent girl would willingly own. Their address is: Women and Guns", P.O. Box 488, Buffalo, NY 14209. Th editor is Peggy Tataro, daughter of Joseph P. Tartaro, Executive Editor of, "Gun Week", from the same fine publisher, Second Amendment Foundation.

Lone Star
 
Xenophon-

Just saw your last post. Did you really mean to say that you had "sauteed"
her mind?! Seems to me that the timeframe when her brain was fried was when she was ANTI-GUN.

Maybe you meant that you had "saturated" her mind? (Hee,hee!)

Lone Star
 
There really is a problem when fictional TV teaches someone about reality. If you think about it she ignored you (reality) for months, but just one episode of fictional TV convinced her. Those people truly are frightening. What else may they be learning by watching TV fiction?
 
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