New .223 autoloader?

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seems to me someone associated with SWAT magazine might get an early look at the rifle.

i hear the photographic light is real good in Tennessee this time of year...

;)


Kel Tek has paid for an add in a magazine so they must be planning on shipping it this spring
 
I was on the KTOG forum on Yahoo and found this post. I don't know if its true but here what was posted.....

QUOTE

"I called Cliff & bugged him 1st thing this morning; he was surprised to
hear that anyone knew about the SU-16 before the SHOT show!

He was able to confirm that it takes AR-15/M-16 mags, will have a MSRP
of ~$640, and is not yet available.

He also answered my question I posted here before: A Sub-40 in Glock
config can be changed over to S&W config as a quick "do it yourself"
project, but the bolt won't hold back on an empty mag in the S&W
config. Otherwise, I could send the whole thing in and have it
converted to S&W.

Now I just have to decide between buying a Sub-40, or trying to wait for
the SU-16..."
 
Called Kel-Tec

I talked with a woman in sales at Kel-Tec. She told me the following.

The SU-16 will be introduced at the Orlando Shot Show in February. The Guns & Ammo ad was premature. They expect it to be available to consumers in April.

It uses standard M-16/AR-15 mags and will ship with one ten-round mag.

Suggested retail price is $640. She didn't know or wouldn't tell what the dealer cost would be.

I asked whether the front sight was the same as on the Sub-2000, and she didn't know.
 
gun-fucious, the light is good here, indeed... and that fella with SWAT is my neighbor, his daughter and mine are best friends... I'll let ya know if he gets one...

Mikey D...
 
Folks,

Got this from KelTec about my enquiry concerning their new SU16 223 rifle:

>The new .223 SU-16 Sport Utility Rifle comes with unique
>features such as:
> -Integrated Picatinny rail.
> -Forend folds down to form a bipod.
> -The stock can store spare magazines.
> -The mechanism and stock can be rotated for added.
> safety or carry under extreme conditions.
> -Utilizes proven M-16 breech locking and feeding system.
> -Accepts AR-15 and M-16 mags.
>
>We have not yet decided to submit the SU-16 to California.
>Technically, this is not a folding rifle. When it is in the
>folded position, it is not folded but, disassembled. You must
>remove a pin to disassemble it (or, fold it) and it absolutely
>cannot be fired when disassembled. However, when it is
>disassembled (or, folded) it does measure less than 30".
>
>Because California has passed a new law allowing people to sue
>the manufacturer when a gun gets in the wrong hands and is used
>in a crime, it is very possible that we will not allow sales in
>California at all. It is still yet to be determined.
>
>Suggested retail is $640.00.
>We hope to begin shipping the new SU-16 in May of this year.
>Please contact your local dealers now for backorder information.
>
>Also new for this year is the P-3AT .380 cal pistol. It's just
>a tiny bit larger than our P-32. Expected ship date is also May
>at this time. Suggested retail is $305.00 for the "blued" model.
>
>Specifications for the new P-3AT and SU-16 are as follows:
>
> P-3AT / SU-16
>Weight unloaded: 7.3 oz / 5 lbs
>Length 5.16" 37"/26" open/closed
>Height 3.52"
>Width .75"
>Barrel Length 2.76" / 18"
>Capacity 6+1 rnds / 10+1 rnds
 
MonacanMan, I just got the same response in my email and was going to post it....looks like you beat me to it.
 
Because California has passed a new law allowing people to sue
>the manufacturer when a gun gets in the wrong hands and is used
>in a crime, it is very possible that we will not allow sales in
>California at all. It is still yet to be determined.

Here's what I don't get. The legislation that this is reffering to is the new stupid law that removed specific protections for gun manufacturers in California. From what I understand these protection laws don't exist in many other states. Are they also going to prohibit sales to states where there isn't any protection laws? Its not just California.
 
NO SALES TO KALI!!! NOOOO!!! We got a lot of D.A.s in this state that no longer believe in personal responsibility and that believe inanimate objects some how have moral responsibility. I can only hope that some kinda national legislation is enacted so that we get the same choices as other states. I hope Kel-Tec sells it here.
 
Since it is a LONG GUN, you could actually have your local dealer order it through another out-of-state party. There IS no importation law or testing law for rifles (thank God).

I'd just like to see the P-11/P-32 available here in CA again.

No one's won a gun-lawsuit anyways (or at least won the appeal, and NO WAY will it hold upp in the supreme court, so why worry? The rifles will end up here anyways- KT fans will SEE to that :)

-Dave
 
Okay. I can't stand it. Where can I find more information about this new folding .223 rifle that Kel-Tec is going to market?
 
Here's your gun!

Threads merged duckhunt, as a service of THR.
 
PUHLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSSEEE Approve it in the PRK, PLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSEEEE!!!!!
 
Penman,

Resistance is futile....
I will be assimilated!!!!!!!!!!!

Anybody hears about price, please let us know.

Slick
 
This was posted over at KTOG and I would take as hearsay at this time but I thought it might be of interest....

"I talked to my sales rep at RSR Wholesale, and dealer price on the SU-16 will be $398.00 + shipping - which should translate to a street price of $500.00, plus or minus. At that price, I WILL get one for me, and as many more as I can glom onto."
 
Here is a copy of the email I got from Kel-Tec....

"Suggested retail is $640.00. We hope to begin shipping the new SU-16 in May of this year. Please contact your local dealers now for backorder information."
 
I think I want one. MSRP well under $700 (so price probably $500-600), AK mags, interesting design and due out in April or May. Great that will give me some time to save up.:D
 
No lie, G.I. ...

Since I was the fella who posted the dealer pricing info at KTOG that MonacanMan quoted, I will vouch for the price info as being true and correct at this time - unless my dealer rep mis-informed me, or Kel-Tec changes their pricing later...

Looks like MonacanMan beat me to the punch with my own "rumor control!" :eek:
 
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