New Arisaka project!

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BrocLuno said:
So, on the new barrel. Why not just buy a replacement 7.7x57 ... I can put you in touch with a fellow in ID who has maybe 150 barrels. He can match your arsenal so it should be minor fit up. Prolly $150, or less... He can supply bottom metal too :)

303Brit/311 bullets are not hard to come by and you reload :)

Or, if going new barrel, maybe something a bit heavier?
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I actually have a 7.7 barrel, the one pictured is one i bought as replacement a while back.
Whats making me want to go with a new barrel is mostly that If im gonna pay for some one to fit a barrel it might as well be a contour i like better, and a different chambering. I also never really liked having more than one gun per cartridge, and my other 7.7 sporter fills that niche perfectly.

I actually have a few more options than i thought as to cartridges. I have the janky "06" length mag box which is ugly but works, itll take up to a 3.28 coal. I tried running 06 rounds thru the action with the bottom metal jist screwed in and they cycled fine. I can probably make a better version of the box that came with the gun, possibly get 3.3 coal.
The rounds im considering now are the .338-.358s, possibly a .35 whelen AI (mostly for the shaper shoulder to help with headspace). Only issue i see with the 35WAI is coal being longer.

Im open to ideas also.
 
CaptTripps said:
I explained they were strong, good receivers to rebarrel, just that someone had done a hack job on this one.
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I wonder if that was caused by re-chambering with a standard 06 reamer? The pilot on an 06 reamer would be slightly undersize for the .303 bore . It might have been wobbling a bit.
 
LoonWulf said:
I actually have a 7.7 barrel, the one pictured is one i bought as replacement a while back.
Whats making me want to go with a new barrel is mostly that If im gonna pay for some one to fit a barrel it might as well be a contour i like better, and a different chambering. I also never really liked having more than one gun per cartridge, and my other 7.7 sporter fills that niche perfectly.

I actually have a few more options than i thought as to cartridges. I have the janky "06" length mag box which is ugly but works, itll take up to a 3.28 coal. I tried running 06 rounds thru the action with the bottom metal jist screwed in and they cycled fine. I can probably make a better version of the box that came with the gun, possibly get 3.3 coal.
The rounds im considering now are the .338-.358s, possibly a .35 whelen AI (mostly for the shaper shoulder to help with headspace). Only issue i see with the 35WAI is coal being longer.

Im open to ideas also.
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You can drop coal in a .35 with round nose bullets.
But man this sounds like a money pit.
Lots of fun though.:thumbup:
 
Total money pit....but its cheaper than drinking, and wont lay me up for a day. :D
I dont actually get to shoot that much with the kids, maybe an hour or two a week. So these projects are kinda reasons in and of themselves. 600 bucks for a half a years worth of entertainment is worth it lol.

tark said:
I wonder if that was caused by re-chambering with a standard 06 reamer? The pilot on an 06 reamer would be slightly undersize for the .303 bore . It might have been wobbling a bit.
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Sounds reasonable, specially if it was a home job.
 
LoonWulf said:
Will do, i still have some acraglass from a while back. Its a 99, id have preferred the 38 since its cut down so much.
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You might proceed with caution using old acraglas. I just used some that was about a year old, and it thickened up way too much. It failed to run into all the little nooks and crannies. It turned out okay, but it might not have. Next time I probably won't store it in my garage. Just pay attention when you're mixing it and if it seems too thick I would advise not using it.
 
E.R. Shaw has rebarreled a couple of Arisaka actions for me quite inexpensively. In fact same price for Arisaka, Mauser or Springfield actions. Shaw barrels are good barrels and they offer low-priced extras like bolt-lug lapping, weld/bend bolt handles and drill & tap for scope mounts. Lots of cartridges to choose from. Check them out!
 
Thats who i was planning on getting my tube from, and possibly doing the barreling, maybe the scope mounts tho im comfortable doing those myself. One of my favorite guns was done by ershaw, and the work was well dome and affordable.
 
I'm down taking care of Pop, so away from all my books and can't look up dimensions...

But I think I'd opt for something in the 6.5mm range. Cross sectional density and down range performance.

Maybe 6.5-06 or something similar... Or 6.5-08 and leave room for really long boolits :D

Longer skinnier boolits tend to fly well for a long ways :D
 
Yeah the 6.5s another idea thats been rattling around in my head. A while back Horsey300 and i were talking about it and at the time i wanted to do a 6.5x55AI, unfortunately shaw dosent have the reamer for the AI variant, not that its necessary really, i just like the way the rounds look. If i stick with the normal 7.7 box ill probably go sub .30 cal, most likely a 7x57, 6.5x55, or the .260AI. going to the longer box and 06 length rounds the long pointy bullets would have to be set well i to the case, which was why i was considering a .35WAI
 
LoL, I considered the .358, and honestly its still an option.....well honestly anything that fits in the guns still an option as i havent ordered a barrel lol...

I went from the. .358 to the .35WAI, when i remeber the longer mag box.....i also have some 400 06 brass and only about 100 pieces of .308 lol.
 
LoonWulf said:
LoL, I considered the .358, and honestly its still an option.....well honestly anything that fits in the guns still an option as i havent ordered a barrel lol...

I went from the. .358 to the .35WAI, when i remeber the longer mag box.....i also have some 400 06 brass and only about 100 pieces of .308 lol.
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Welllllll if you're REALLY wanting to do weird, the bullets (except coppers) MIGHT be short enough to load 8-06 cartridges......might AI it for kicks..... I'm thinking of 200 partition or 180 btip 25-2700 fps, Max coal from hodgdon for the jap was 3.1 I believe, and nosler shows 3.25max on the 8-06, I reckon you could figger that one out.....just for the record, the .358 would work, and nothing against the ol gal but I was thinking .35 rem......
 
I want a .35 rem lever gun, not sure the smaller rim would work with the bolt face. The 8-06 actually interested me for a while, def random enough lol!
 
LoonWulf said:
I want a .35 rem lever gun, not sure the smaller rim would work with the bolt face. The 8-06 actually interested me for a while, def random enough lol!
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Ooooooo right! Didn't think of the rim size issue, also, not the biggest fan of the .338 family, but .338 fed would fit, won't help with the 06 cases....
 
Max coal for your 7 mm fetish feed of a 280 would be 3.33, obviously gets worse the smaller you go, there's the 9.3x 62 "cuz I can" at 3.29 and again we could reference the 7 ihmsa
 
9.3 would be awsome, gehruntee id be the only one with one here....well maybe not ive seen some random stuff. I agree .280 cant be loaded that short comfortably. The .338 Feds on the list but a ways down. The 7Ihmsa begs for a model 7 action....i was trying to forget about that one, thanks.....7x57imp maybe?
 
That would absolutely work! A real shorty of a cartridge would be a 6.8 spc2 but I don't remember what the .30 rem bolt face needed. A 7-08 would work, or a .260, or a 7ihmsa, they should all take the same bolt face. I don't remember why your Smith didn't wanna do the 6.5-284, but the .284 win would fit with room to spare and equal the 06 case's performance....(in relation to the .280 obviously) just trying to help the 7mm fetish
 
6.8s rim is .422, so probably too small. Oddly enough thats really the only .277 ive seen that im interested in.
i dont remember either why he didnt like the idea of the 6.5x284, but since ill probably have shaw do the barrel its an option. The 7x57AI should come pretty close to .284win velocities id think, but the .284 dies ARE significantly cheaper lol
 
Agreed on the .277s you could also trim and form those 06 cases into some new fun wildcat, like a 7-05 (most of a 6) ;) that doesn't have quite the ring to it though, maybe the .284-05 luau....
 
^ cause only a loonatic (or Hornady) would lop a couple mms off a functional case, improve it, and make the best thing since.....well the last best thing!:D

Slightly shortening a 280AI would actually be a pretty neat way to solve the mag length problem, stick with the same bolt face, and hopefully not have issues with the feed rails, while still providing enough case capacity to deliver close to 7mag performance.....also cost a ton in custom reamers and dies...unless i do what im doing for my 250 and use generic hornady neck sizers and seaters

As much as i actually like that idea, i think the rounds that are right now on the keep list are the 7x57/x57AI, 6.5/.284, .284, .260AI, and the .35WAI....again im trying to stick with what shaw chambers, so theres some stuff like the 9.3x62, which i think would rock in this gun, that i cant do.

If i remember ill probably call the tomorrow to check on cost and time line, right now fixing the ac in the family car has priority, but I'm hoping to move forward soon.
 
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