New Arizona gun laws take effect Thursday

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New Arizona gun laws take effect Thursday
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New laws go into effect next week in Arizona. Many of the new laws deal with guns.

While some new laws are about to be implemented, some are just getting revamped, like Arizona's Conceal Carry law.

Beginning Thursday, it will no longer be necessary for conceal and carry permit holders to take a refresher course to renew their permits.

District 28 Representative Ted Downing says, "As of a week from now, everyone who is renewing their conceal weapons permits will not be required to take the two hour refresher course."

When you first apply for your conceal carry permit, you go through a background check, you're fingerprinted, pay a fee, then take an eight-hour training class to learn the do's and don'ts.

Under current law, when your permit expires five years later, a two-hour refresher course is mandated to renew your permit. But next week, with a change in state law, that course will no longer be required and that bothers Tucson resident Millie Layton.

Layton says, "I definitely don't agree with that at all."

Layton has a gun. It's at home, and that's where she says it stays.

"We've got enough protection." I don't feel guns are necessary, I really don't," the gun-owner says.

But another Tucson resident, Chris Hearn, says, "It doesn't concern me at all."

Hearn doesn't own a gun and doesn't see the disappearance of the refresher course to be a problem.

Hearn says, "If I had the opportunity to not take the class, I would go for it."

Not having the time or wanting to spend the money to take the class is one thing, it's staying on top of the law that concerns Representative Downing.

Downing says, "The difficulty would be in a, say, a five-year period, you can have anywhere from 10, 20, 30 changes in law. How is that individual going to know those?"

The Arizona Department of Public Safety oversees the permit program and, at least according to its website, opposed the change in law.
 
I'm glad the renewal training requirement went away. Won't do me any good at this time.

However, as a military member who is an AZ resident I was not able to keep my permit in the past since I was overseas when I needed to renew.

I don't think the training thing is entirely a bad idea. However, since there was no allowance for odd cases like mine I'm glad that it's gone.
 
Another law change concerns the "weapons checking" statute found in ARS 13-3102 (A)(10). It has often been used as a bluff by government entities to wit: "No Weapons Allowed. ARS 13-3102." Problem is, 3102 only refers to a request to check and store the weapon while on the premises. It was never an outright ban, and never intended that it HAD to be used by the government entity. Other jursidictions attempted some cute applications of the law, including saying, "sorry, we don't have any lockers for you." or, "You can't check that here. You have to walk down a few blocks and store it at the courthouse."

The new law change clarifies that if the state/city/county/.gov is to invoke 3102, they have to check it on-site...

From Alan Korwin's http://www.gunlaws.com

Gun Law Update (AZ)

Bloomfield Press
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Sep. 19, 2006
Contact info at end

REQUIRING GUN LOCKERS A BAD IDEA

"Come-and-go" policy is better, lobbyist says

Government facilities statewide are scurrying to install gun lockers near their public entrances, to comply with a new state law that requires them to carefully store firearms people routinely carry. Storage itself is not required, but if they wish to disarm people who enter, convenient lockers must be made available.

"Disarming honest citizens who carry firearms, because you're afraid of them, is bad public policy," says John Wentling, a lobbyist with the Arizona Citizens Defense League (azcdl.org), who helped get the law enacted. "It's better to let people simply come and go, safely in possession of their private property." It's generally agreed that criminals would simply ignore any locker plan.

Charles Heller, a Tucson-based radio talk-show host and firearms instructor, who serves as secretary of AZCDL, believes that disarming innocent citizens for political correctness, or out of an irrational fear of guns, is a recipe for disaster.

"The reason people carry a personal sidearm is as a deterrent to crime," he notes. "If you force these people to disarm when they enter a public place, you defeat a main purpose of gun ownership." Everyone with a concealed-weapon permit has been trained, tested, fingerprinted and FBI certified, he adds.

Gun-rights advocates generally agree that the new locker law, effective on Sep. 21, is better than banning innocent people from entering a building or event. Even worse, they say, was the old policy of requiring people to leave their guns in their cars, which left people defenseless and led to firearm thefts in the past. The best approach, they believe, is to simply let people come and go about their business.

Some people who seek to ban gun owners may suffer from hoplophobia, a poorly understood morbid fear of weapons. Scholarly studies consistently show several million defensive gun uses each year by members of the public.

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You don't have to redo your entire driving course to get your license renewed - don't see the reason of making you go through that hassle again for a CCP.
 
I love living here. We just keep improving the laws every year! If we can keep this up, I see Vermont style permitless carry by the end of the decade.
 
Downing says, "The difficulty would be in a, say, a five-year period, you can have anywhere from 10, 20, 30 changes in law. How is that individual going to know those?"

Ummm.... send them a pamphlet with their renewal? Next!
 
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