New centerfire Single Six on the horizon!

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New .327 Single Six on the horizon! (updated)

Lipsey's posted a teaser pic on Facebook. Speculation is that it's a 7-shot .32H&R or .327Mag. To be released in new coming months.

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A .327, might have to get me one of those. A good buddy of mine has a SSM in .32 H&R. He LOVED that thing and it was his constant companion on Colorado elk hunts in the Durango/Ouray area of Colorado's mountains. No, he didn't hunt elk with it, but would take blue grouse for camp meat, that sort of thing. It was very accurate and he loaded it up pretty hot being a strong gun, 400+ ft lb levels as I recall. The gun was light and easier to carry than anything else he owned.

Now, my hunting endeavors no longer include the high country. I'm a little old and stiff for the rough country anymore and too broke in my retirement to book an outfitter. But, I still think a SSM in .327 would be WAY cool. :D
 
I wonder how long it will take for folks to start badgering Henry to make a companion lever gun to go with this? :D

I'm curious though. What does this bring to the table that can't be done by an 1873 clone or a NM Vaquero in .357 that is loaded with suitable ammo? It's not like it's any more compact than these other two guns since a Single Six is not a small gun. And a 110gn bullet shot out of .357 gun at the right speed would do the same job.... No?
 
My 4 5/8" fixed sight .32H&R New Model Single Six and 5½" Old Model Single Six both weigh 33oz. My 4¾" USFA Rodeo II .38Spl weighs 42oz. That's a big difference. The small bore SAA's handle like a brick while the Single Sixes are light and nimble. Not to mention the difference in sighting equipment. All that is worth the price of admission to me.

A 110gr .357 is a light varmint load and would be more comparable to an 85gr .327 load. A 115gr .327 load is not a light varmint load and would be more comparable to a 158gr .357. The .327 has a third more pressure to play with and can get a 100gr to 1700fps. So for bullets of the same weight, the .327 will hit harder, shoot flatter and penetrate deeper. For bullets of the same sectional density, the .327 is 300-400fps faster.
 
IMHO, the difference between a Single Six and a mid-frame gun like the New Vaquero is much more significant than the difference between the medium and large frame guns.
 
Then I stand, or sit actually, corrected on all counts. I didn't realize that they were that different in size and weight. The newer Single Sixes seem so large when I look at them compared to my old fixed sight three screw SS. I guess it's just the big lumpy sights that make them look that way.

I'll have to look at the specs on the .327 ammo. It must have a pretty high muzzle velocity to give that much power.

And it sort of makes me think that it would be a pretty good rifle round from something slim and light like an H&R Handi or even something a little lighter that would be similar to a light break action .410 shotgun style and size.
 
I had a Single Six and a Bisley model in .32 H&R many years ago and had to sell them when I needed the cash. Have always wanted someday to replace them along a similar line. Maybe this might be just the ticket.
 
I got a Single-Six 32 H&R mag with the 5.5" barrel last year. It is wonderfully comfortable and accurate, even with me shooting it. The Single-Six size and weight with a center fire cartridge is a great combo. If this Lipsey offering is as good, it will be a winner. And yeah, I would love to see a light weight lever action or single shot to go with it.

Thanks for the heads up.
 
I would highly doubt it's going to be a .327 Mag. That cartridge was a dismal seller in the Blackhawk, GP100, and SP101. Those platforms required minimal changes to chamber it. The Single Six cylinder window is too short to handle the .327 without redesigning the frame. The Single Six would be a hoot in .327 though. I would be very tempted by a new .32 H&R. I just can't bring myself to spend what used ones are bringing these days.
 
I can take a pic of the various sizes of cylinders for comparison. I think it's pretty illustrative.

I would love to see the .327 in a nice levergun. It should do what we've been doing with heavy .32-20 loads for years only with stronger brass and carbide dies. I'd be all over it.
 
As would I. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if anyone made one. Marlin is in a state of flux right now with that whole RemLin thing going on, or maybe they would have built one.

Henry might, if enough people asked for one.
 
A quick check for sizing shows that the cylinder would need to be just shy of 1.5 inches long through the chamber area. How long are they on the new models?

On the other hand .32H&R is the same length as .22WMR. And we already have Single Sixes chambered in that round. So that might be the more likely chambering.
 
The cylinder will have to be longer than anything previous. It will have to be nearly flush with the front of the frame window in order to fit. Not a big deal as long as a shorter barrel shank fits within Ruger's manufacturing parameters.
 
I could have sworn I'd read about .32 H&R Single Sixes being converted to .327.
Can't remember where.
I also seem to remember some being made into .38 Specials.

I'd love to have one.
I'd also like to have a GP100 in .327, as well as a K frame and an L frame in .327.
If I could have 7 or 8 shots in a GP or L frame, I'd be thrilled.

And, here, Craig and I were just talking about .32s the other day.
Albeit, we were talking about .32 Long.

I'd give one of my gonads for a K32. Maybe even both of them.
 
I could have sworn I'd read about .32 H&R Single Sixes being converted to .327.
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Yep, the just need a new, longer cylinder. Before I get derided for simplifying the process, they require a shortened barrel shank. Diameter and capacity remain the same.


I also seem to remember some being made into .38 Specials.
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The .38Spl is the largest cartridge the New Models can be built into. The loading port must be opened up and anything bigger gets into the transfer bar slot in the frame. The Old Models can be made into .41Spl's.


I'd also like to have a GP100 in .327, as well as a K frame and an L frame in .327.
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If the .327 GP had been made in blue or with a longer barrel, I might've jumped on one.


And, here, Craig and I were just talking about .32s the other day.
Albeit, we were talking about .32 Long.
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I'm still thinking about that little Regulation Police. ;)


I'd give one of my gonads for a K32. Maybe even both of them.
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Me too, both of them! After a while, you don't really need them anyway so......:p
 
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